Ralph Heap, "Dr. Hypocrisy," Campaigns Against Medicaid Expansion, But Took $130K in Medicaid Cash

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Master and apprentice: Recalled former state Senator Russell Pearce talks with Ralph Heap (right), Pearce's revenge candidate in LD 25, in this photo Heap deleted from his Facebook page

Tall with a buzz cut and a toothy grin, Dr. Ralph Heap is a banjo-pickin' orthopedic surgeon with a handsome family and enough charisma to worry incumbent Bob Worsley in the GOP primary for state senator from deeply red Legislative District 25.

Heap also is a colossal hypocrite -- and the cat's paw of powerful politicians eager to see Worsley ousted for their own ends. But let's address the hypocrisy first.

The centerpiece of Heap's appeal to voters is his opposition to Medicaid expansion, passed in 2013, pushed by Governor Jan Brewer, and despised for ideological reasons by most GOPers in the Legislature.

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AHCCCS statement showing Heap's take from the government program he opposes

Worsley was one of five Republicans in the state Senate to break ranks and vote in favor of Brewer's version of the expansion, part of President Obama's Affordable Care Act, widely known as Obamacare.

Read the AHCCCS "provider participation agreement" Heap signed in 2009.

In doing so, more than 300,000 Arizonans gained access to healthcare, and the dividends already have been felt locally, with the Arizona Hospital and Healthcare Association reporting a dip of more than 30 percent in uncompensated hospital care as a result.

Forgoing the expansion would have meant losing an estimated $8 billion injection of cash into the economy, not to mention all the folks who would not have had access to medical care.

Hospitals are kicking in money in the form of fees to meet the state's share of the costs, and Brewer's plan does not allow passing this on to consumers. Arizona can opt out if the feds fail to meet their part of the deal. So what's not to like?

But for GOPers in the Obama age, the gub'mint always is bad, and Heap seems to be of the same mind, judging by his rhetoric.

On his campaign website, he warns, "One of the biggest problems we face today is the takeover by the federal government of our healthcare system."

Heap calls Medicaid expansion "the precursor to single-payer socialized medicine" in one piece he authored for the Sonoran Alliance website, deriding the "poor quality of care in Medicaid."

I doubt Heap was referring to the care he provides. Yet according to the Arizona Health Care Cost Containment System, Heap has been paid more than $130,000 in Medicaid funds from 2010 to 2013.


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MaskedMagician1967
MaskedMagician1967 topcommenter

If this doctor opposes Medicaid, why did he sign a contract requiring him to provide care for the poor, elderly and indigent?

timdlittle
timdlittle

Time to turn the self serving Mormon vote on it's ear.

Mickey McCormick
Mickey McCormick

Because he's a capitalist pig who should not ha a medical license.Be wary of "doctors" that are against health coverage of any kind that helps the poor,retired or disabled.Their only goal is profit,not healthy patients...

ElPescadoRosado
ElPescadoRosado

Yeah, why would  Matt Salmon fear a popular Republican worth tens of millions, living in his district, who supported Kirk Adams instead of him last cycle, and who is openly critical of Salmon's immigration stance?  Completely unfounded, Mr. Lemons!  How dare you even suggest that!


Salmon is clearly using Heap as a pawn to try and put the pillow to Worsley in the political cradle.  Heap is also a revenge pawn of the Pearces, who offered the services of their sleezy hit man, Constantin Querard, until Salmon realized that CQ is an idiot who would drive Heap's campaign into the ditch, and so Salmon put his own consultant, Chris Baker, on the job.  

barbaraespinosa1
barbaraespinosa1

Back Story Behind Attack Ads (Signs) Against Republicans by Republicans From American Freedom by Barbara research department. Now let's get to the nitty gritty of who is behind the attack ads..Russell Pearce in it up to his eyeballs.

Arizona Taxpayers Action Committee is behind attack ads on Republicans who voted for Medicaid expansion. Like a rubber band they stretch the truth and they don’t care.

This sign is a bald face lie. US Congress voted for the affordable care act aka Obamacare and NOT ONE Republican voted for it. Nor did any AZ Legislature they don't vote on national bills. Russell Pearce turns on former colleagues. Fundraiser for AZ Taxpayer Action Committee. Russell Pearce the Former Senate President has teamed up with Tom Husband former executive officer of Maricopa County Republican Committee along with Colette Rosati to raise money to oust incumbent Republicans who voted for the Medicaid expansion.http://www.americanfreedombybarbara.com/2014/07/back-story-behind-attack-ads-signs.html

Egregious_Philbin
Egregious_Philbin

He is a doctor, maybe he can get Russell Pearce's puppet hand removed from his asshole.

eric.nelson745
eric.nelson745 topcommenter

Bob Worsley should mercilessly beat Heap over the head with this. Mercilessly. Pound, pound, pound him on the noggin for being such an insufferable jerk and liar. Oh, and did I mention supreme hypocrite?

valleynative
valleynative topcommenter

I don't necessarily agree with this guy, but I don't see hypocrisy in accepting money from a program of which he publicly disapproves.  If he was secretly promoting the program to his patients while publicly criticizing it, you would have a valid point, but accepting their money is not promoting the program.

Also, criticism of the overall standard of care under the program doesn't have anything to do with the level of care that he, as an individual, provides under the program.


MaskedMagician1967
MaskedMagician1967 topcommenter

Twice-disgraced, corrupt, narcissistic and mentally sick Pearce is still around?

When will the people send that snake slithering back into the jungle, never to be seen or heard from again?

TheyCallMeMrTibbs
TheyCallMeMrTibbs

@valleynative the same nonhypocrisy allows republicans to take cleanelections funding while berating the system and the rich to take bailouts & corp welfare while hating aid to the poor. convenient.

66rock
66rock topcommenter

@MaskedMagician1967  Hey I lived in his district and did my part, apparently we failed, the snake in the grass is still hanging around.

I am disappointed to see that he didn't hang his head in shame and

take off to the wilderness! 

barbaraespinosa1
barbaraespinosa1

@Egregious_Philbin The one and the same. At least I have the guts to use my own name and that's more than can be said about you.IF YOU WOULDN'T WRITE AND SIGN IT, DON’T SAY IT." EARL WILSON

MaskedMagician1967
MaskedMagician1967 topcommenter

I personally think Pearce got those potential charges against his son avoided by using his position in the state GOP Eric.

MaskedMagician1967
MaskedMagician1967 topcommenter

Yeah I know Eric. I was hoping Pearce would vanish.

MaskedMagician1967
MaskedMagician1967 topcommenter

I lived in East Mesa and did what I could to get that snake Pearce outta office 66.

TheyCallMeMrTibbs
TheyCallMeMrTibbs

@valleynative @TheyCallMeMrTibbs

ur a valley native, meaning english is a second language to you.

hypocrisy 

1. the practice of professing standards, beliefs, etc, contrary to one's real character or actual behaviour, esp the pretence of virtue and piety



2. an act or instance of this


http://www.thefreedictionary.com/hypocrisy

a hypocrite says one thing but does another.

ergo heap is a hypocrite.

got it, or was that too fast for u?

66rock
66rock topcommenter

@MaskedMagician1967 Then you, I, and others did all we could do.  Up to the voters in this state now to send the weasel out of politics. I thought he'd leave in embarrassment and shame to Utah or somewhere else but apparently not. But hey ole Pearce will do himself in by disgusting the voters again, he can't seem to help himself. LOL so it's just a waiting game now most likely.  

barbaraespinosa1
barbaraespinosa1

@Egregious_Philbin You have no idea of the conversation with a call in guest before or afterwards you are making a judgement call based on an edited audio/video of what happened. 

valleynative
valleynative topcommenter

@TheyCallMeMrTibbs @valleynative 

I'm better educated than you, and understand how to apply the definition, as you clearly do not.

Can you cite an example of him saying one thing and doing another?   He said that it's a bad program.  What did he do that makes it appear that he actually thinks it's a good program?   Taking their money does NOT mean he thinks it's a good program, does it?

Was that too fast for you?

 

Egregious_Philbin
Egregious_Philbin

@barbaraespinosa1 @Egregious_Philbin Actually, I heard the show live.  Also listened to the tape.  You clearly called Obama a monkey.  And, by doing so, you reinforced all the stereotypes people have against the tea party whackos.  That you proudly still use your name in public really shows the level of your disconnect with reality.

MaskedMagician1967
MaskedMagician1967 topcommenter

Valley, perhaps you can clear up some confusion for me.

Since this doctor publicly opposes Medicaid, why is he accepting Medicaid funding and performing his duties likely as a Medicare provider?

That appears to be the crux of Mr. Lemons' argument.

barbaraespinosa1
barbaraespinosa1

@Egregious_Philbin FYI There is more than one definition for "Monkey"NOUN:

pl. mon·keys

1.One that behaves in a way suggestive of a monkey, as a mischievous child or a mimic.

2.Slang A person who is mocked, duped, or made to appear a fool:They made a monkey out of him.

3.Slang Drug addiction: have a monkey on one's back.

VERB:
mon·keyedmon·key·ingmon·keys
VERB:
intr.
Informal

  1. To play, fiddle, trifle, or tamper with something.
  2. To behave in a mischievous or apish manner: Stop monkeying around!

TheyCallMeMrTibbs
TheyCallMeMrTibbs

@Egregious_Philbin @barbaraespinosa1 She's got a point about using ur own name. Heh.

valleynative
valleynative topcommenter

@MaskedMagician1967 

He's accepting Medicaid funding because that's the only way that some patients have of paying him.

Accepting the money does not, in any way, indicate that he really thinks it's a good program.

That is the crux of my argument.

 

Egregious_Philbin
Egregious_Philbin

@barbaraespinosa1 @Egregious_Philbin If I were a political pundit and was trying to desperately drive traffic to my site or get people to listen to a brokered talk show, I'd use my real name.  As for your cognitive dissonance on "monkey", I'll bet that "some of your best friends are African Americans" right Barb?  

TheyCallMeMrTibbs
TheyCallMeMrTibbs

@barbaraespinosa1 @Egregious_Philbin

i agree the monkey thing's a poor choice of words. but everyones said something inappropriate at some point, including obama (remember the special olympics remark?). also it's off topic to this conversation. 

TheyCallMeMrTibbs
TheyCallMeMrTibbs

@valleynative @MaskedMagician1967

there are other doctors who can take those patients. read the article, dumbass, he doesn't have to take the money.


how long wld medicaid survive if all doctors refused to take it? heap shld lead the way if he has the courage of his convictions.


as far as being educated, u ain't too bright if the word "hypocrisy" is this tough for you. i suggest remedial education. local community college cld be just the trick. good luck w/that.

valleynative
valleynative topcommenter

@TheyCallMeMrTibbs @valleynative @MaskedMagician1967 

You don't seem to realize that none of your arguments support your assertion that this is hypocrisy.

As you say yourself, if he didn't take those patients, other doctors would, so how the fuck would that really help to eliminate Medicaid?

Dumbass, indeed!

 


valleynative
valleynative topcommenter

@TheyCallMeMrTibbs @valleynative @MaskedMagician1967 

You've apparently completely given up hope of supporting your position and are falling back to idiotic insults.  You're simply not equipped to debate with a person with more than a high school education.  I'm sure that's not really a revelation to you.  Give up and walk away.

 

TheyCallMeMrTibbs
TheyCallMeMrTibbs

@valleynative @TheyCallMeMrTibbs @MaskedMagician1967

heap doesn't have to agree with them to be a hypocrite. he takes $ from a program he's (supposedly) against. 


saying one thing in public, and doing another in practice is the very definition of hypocrisy. 


when hes on the stump does he talk about taking $ from medicaid? no of course not.

TheyCallMeMrTibbs
TheyCallMeMrTibbs

@valleynative @TheyCallMeMrTibbs @MaskedMagician1967


ur right. it isnt complicated but ur being willfully obtuse.

check Websters def of hypocrite and the example it cites below 

heap "behaves in a way that disagrees with those beliefs." 


the "behavior" is what disagrees, the person can be and often is completely cynical about it as is heap.


heap's behavior in taking Medicad $ is in contradiction to his opposition to the program on the campaign trail


if you go out and preach Medicaid's ills while at the same time benefiting from it, your actions belie your words.


hyp·o·crite noun \ˈhi-pə-ˌkrit\

: a person who claims or pretends to have certain beliefs about what is right but who behaves in a way that disagrees with those beliefs

Full Definition of HYPOCRITE1:  a person who puts on a false appearance of virtue or religion

2:  a person who acts in contradiction to his or her stated beliefs or feelings— hypocrite adjective

Examples of HYPOCRITE

the hypocrites who criticize other people for not voting but who don't always vote themselves

valleynative
valleynative topcommenter

@TheyCallMeMrTibbs @valleynative @MaskedMagician1967 

For his actions to contradict his statements, he would have to privately advocate for the program.  Not simply benefit from it.

That's the fundamental point that you're missing.


Benefiting from something that you don't like is not an example that fits the definition.  It might be irony, but it's not hypocrisy.



TheyCallMeMrTibbs
TheyCallMeMrTibbs

@valleynative @TheyCallMeMrTibbs @MaskedMagician1967

no, both your understanding of hypocrisy and your understanding of irony are wrong.


let's go back to Websters, 


iro·ny

: the use of words that mean the opposite of what you really think especially in order to be funny

: a situation that is strange or funny because things happen in a way that seems to be the opposite of what you expected


the first is a literary device.


the second meaning is what ur after. but that is more of a coincidence. heap's actions are deliberate. he signed up to take medicaid money. then he goes out on the campaign stump and campaigns against it.


he is not required to take medicaid. read the article. he has options. that $130,000 is probably a sliver of his total income over 4 yrs. he could opt not to take it. there are other orthopedic surgeons patients can go to. 


its not as if heap didnt know he was taking medicaid $. IF he inveighed against medicaid, then found out later that, unbeknownst to him, some of his income is derived from medicaid, u cld call that ironic.


but heap knew he had taken medicaid $ and yet went out to campaign against medicaid anyway being careful never to mention that he takes $ from the government too.


what does he believe? we don't know do we? we know what his stated objection is. but his actions belie those words. 


that is hypocrisy. i know u will not agree, but that's the plain truth. ur argument is "heap has to believe in medicaid to be a hypocrite." but that is not inthe definition of the word. it is your definition. but just u saying something is true does not make it objectively true. uve offered no sources. only urr opinion. 

valleynative
valleynative topcommenter

@TheyCallMeMrTibbs @valleynative @MaskedMagician1967 

You've proven to me that you're only semi-literate.  It's not worth continuing this.

Your understanding of the second definition of irony is way off.  It doesn't matter whether or not his actions were deliberate.  They were the opposite of what you expected.

Nothing that he's done belies his words.

You haven't begun to show otherwise.

 

TheyCallMeMrTibbs
TheyCallMeMrTibbs

@valleynative @TheyCallMeMrTibbs @MaskedMagician1967

u've offered zero evidence in support of ur opinion. zero. while i've offered published definitions and examples from reputable sources. of course heap's actions belie his words. obvious to everyone but u.


u suffer from confirmation bias, and cognitive dissonance. u persist in a discredited belief like a little child or a simpleton. the following quote from a study into hard-headed idiots such as yourself applies:


"Beliefs can survive potent logical or empirical challenges. They can survive and even be bolstered by evidence that most uncommitted observers would agree logically demands some weakening of such beliefs. They can even survive the total destruction of their original evidential bases."


its been fun showing you up to everyone on this thread as a pathetic rube who cannot concede a point after he is pulverized into the ground with proof. ur quite simply ridiculous. dont blame you for giving up. everyone here sees u for what u are: a joke.

valleynative
valleynative topcommenter

@TheyCallMeMrTibbs @valleynative @MaskedMagician1967 

No, you've shown yourself to be illiterate.  My college educated friends have been laughing at you.

You've published the definition, which was trivial, but you've failed to show that it fits the facts, because it does not.  You've never once shown any tiny bit of support for it fitting the facts.

One of my degrees is in psychology.  I understand cognitive dissonance, and dissonance reduction as originally described by Festinger.  Try another tact.  This one is vapid.

 

 

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