Doug Ducey's Record at Cold Stone Creamery Again on Blast

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It's like 2010 all over again, in more ways than one, when it comes to the self-described "conservative ice cream guy," Republican state treasurer and wannabe governor Doug Ducey.

Back in 2010, Democrat Andrei Cherny opposed Ducey in the treasurer's race, and took aim at Ducey's leadership of Cold Stone Creamery, which ended in 2007, after Cold Stone was sold to Scottsdale-based Kahala Corporation, and Kahala cut Ducey loose.

Kahala since has sold a controlling interest in its company to Canadian investors. But Ducey's reign at Cold Stone resulted in a lot of ticked-off franchisees, who blame Ducey and Cold Stone for them losing their shirts.


A 2010 commercial from Democrat Andrei Cherny, criticizing Ducey for Cold Stone's record with franchisees

I discussed the franchisees' complaints at length in an August 2010 article titled "Doug Ducey: Emperor of Ice Cream or as Sleazy as They Come?"

Here's an excerpt:

Indeed, many former franchisees who got into Cold Stone during the Ducey years -- from 1995 to 2007 -- have similar complaints about Cold Stone and what they refer to, over and over again, as a failed business model.

They say this business model encouraged expansion at all costs and hobbled them with high-priced goods they were obligated to purchase from Cold Stone-approved vendors. And they complain about Cold Stone's erstwhile two-for-one coupons, with the franchisee picking up the tab on the freebie, and the fact that stores were located too close together, thus diluting sales.

This year, in a review of the 10 most popular franchises, CNNMoney.com noted that Cold Stone franchisees have a 31 percent failure rate.

"The product is sweet, but the financials can be bitter," notes the article. "In the last 10 years, almost one in three [Small Business Administration]-backed franchisees defaulted on [its] loan. It's an expensive shop to start, too: The initial franchise fee is $42,000."

Far more devastating was a June 2008 piece by Richard Gibson in the Wall Street Journal that detailed the plights of ex-franchisees, some of whom had gone bankrupt, losing homes and life savings in the process.

That default rate was even higher according to a 2013 analysis done by the Small Business Administration's Office of Inspector General. The OIG's audit cited a 46 percent default rate on government-backed loans to Cold Stone's franchisees in the years 2002 to 2009. (Granted, that includes post-Ducey figures.)



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cochisequeen

When will the New Times look into the strong-arming of the Az Republic by Michael Bidwill and now his attempts to tube Scott Smith with the rest of his big business cronies. It's an open secret among politicos that Bidwill pressured John Zidich to over-rule his Az Republic editorial staff to endorse Ducey rather than Smith. Doesn't this deserve some light-of-day

La Messa Qvo
La Messa Qvo

wasnt he treasurer for az. wonder how he did

Susan Dowling Fox
Susan Dowling Fox

It's the American way- use others to get to the top. I wouldn't vote for him, ever.

wherewasi
wherewasi topcommenter

OSB (Shurf Tough Talk) has now endorsed Ducey.  Interesting.


Competing with Studboi who endorsed Jones? Why did he NOT endorse his buddy boy Candy Andy? After all, when Joe loses the next election to Gonzales (please please please...) wouldn't The Puppet Boy give Joe a job as George's brother on The Patton Line?


Joe endorsed Horne. We KNOW how that will end up. Arpaio's endorsement seemed to be the Kiss Of Death during the 2012 elections. How much did Dougie pay for this endorsement? Last I heard, the going rate was $3,000.


I'm just laughing... The Republicans are spending all of thier campaign $$ fighting each other while Duval just waits... The GOP needs to kick the Tea-Baggers to the curb and tell them to form their own extremist party.  R people - TAKE YOUR PARTY BACK!!!!

Patty Tusay
Patty Tusay

Douche has one platform. He gates Obama. Anyone liking him is really out of time. Ugh.

Jeff Kee
Jeff Kee

They are all wrong for Arizona. Ducey is a corporate tool, sucking at the teet of corporate plutocrats. Christine Jones is a immigrant hating Tea Party fundamentalist. Disbarred Andrew Thomas is a gay hating religious fundamentalist, who supported the gay segregation bill. I do want to know more about Fred Duval.

jp81az
jp81az

They failed cuz it was $3 a scoop and taste like supermarket ice cream. Now Rita's custard shut up and take my money

jp81az
jp81az

They failed cuz ice cream was $3 a scoop and taste like super market ice cream.. now Rita's custard shut up and take my money...

jp81az
jp81az

They failed cuz the ice cream was no better tasting than ice cream u buy in the store and 3$ a scoop...now Rita's custard shut up and take my money

Jennifer Adelman Gutierrez
Jennifer Adelman Gutierrez

Doug is a really really nice guy and great at being motivational and rallying troops...but the criticism thrown his way about the way Cold Stone was ran is deserved. There's a reason 30% of their corporate staff was laid off in 2005 and why so many franchisees lost their shirts. PNT's reporting on these failures was pretty accurate. (former employee).

TChalla NDa
TChalla NDa

we all know how these matters need to be handled and handled well it will be "#ITS_ONLY_THE_BEGINING"

gonsor
gonsor

Lemons, you might want to review the New Times archives. Leo Beus is Andrew Thomas' personal lawyer. Sarah Fenske investigated the possibility that Beus was the instigator of Thomas' crusade against Don Stapley. As Thomas' attorney, he a has vested interest in undermining Doug Ducey. Thomas gave him hundreds of thousands of dollars of county and personal business.

Jason Molina
Jason Molina

If he wants to use Cold Stone Creamery as a positive for his own ads, then his opponents should be able to dig up Cold Stone failures as well.

Joe Rollins
Joe Rollins

I think he's responsible for his douchebag advertisements he put on television. That's reason enough to think he's an idiot.

WhoKnows
WhoKnows topcommenter

Ok, so the "top two" in the GOP primary have

1) Screwed their franchises, bilking the taxpayers



2) lied about their own background (military experience and being a prosecutor in LA)


And then we have the waste of human flesh called Candy Thomas...(with taxpayers (clean elections) paying for his bigotry and lies...)


I mean seriously, is there NO ONE in the GOP that says "we have to put up a candidate that's not covered in green slime?  We know that won't be Russ Pearce, as he oozes green slime!

wherewasi
wherewasi topcommenter

I'm voting Smith in the GOP primary. Wish I could vote Worsley in LD25, but I don't live there. Voting Mark vs Tom for AG. Wish Hos was up for re-election this year instead of 2016... Hope we don't forget about Pearce' s new teat-suck courtesy of Hoskin by then. Keeping my fingers crossed that Dave Gonzales will finally go to bat vs Arpiao in 2016. Is there hope? Yes. Am I holding my breath? No. Not yet.


Felicia and Fred in the general. That would be a good start.

MoManny
MoManny

Cold Stone only has one flavor of ice cream. They just put different stuff in their base "sweet cream" flavor to make it different. Also it wouldn't be the first time a crook got elected governor. Fife Symington anyone? Ev Mecham?

Cozz
Cozz topcommenter

Sounds like the perfect person to finally bankrupt Arizona once and for all.

bunnywhiteboots
bunnywhiteboots

yum! cold stone! what are you guys' favorite mix-ins? I like chocolate shavings and chocolate chip cookie dough.

ExpertShot
ExpertShot topcommenter

Worked at the law firm which handled Kahala - one of the secrets was the patents sold on the names of the flavors.  

getmeouttahere
getmeouttahere

Wrong. Ducey (aka Dougie Douchbag) is a fourth rate asshole. And that's being charitable to assholes....

getmeouttahere
getmeouttahere

@wherewasi Just gonna make filling out my ballot easier. If Joe Arpigho or Studboi Babooboo endorses you, you don't get my vote. 

Sorry Dougie The Douchebag (endorsed by Arpigho) and Christine "I wanna be Sarah Palin soooo bad" Jones (endorsed by Babooboo)



66rock
66rock topcommenter

I don't know for sure who I'm voting for, I'm stuck right where I was couple months ago.  I know Fred is a good guy according to two family members who has had political relationship with him years back.  I don't know Mayor Smith at all or anyone who has ever met him but living in Mesa, I have to say the guy has vision and seems to know how to get things done which now this state needs very badly so we'll see if he is on the ticket.

DonkeyHotay
DonkeyHotay topcommenter

... therefore he must be elected asap!

MaskedMagician1967
MaskedMagician1967 topcommenter

WK, I suspect Rachel has been helping Candy with his taxpayers funded campaign....

After all, we know candy's not bright enough to run a campaign where he actually wins.... plus it shows that Rachel has a brown nose.

Anyone wanna bet Rachel was/is planning to dump her boyfriend for candy, only he wasn't/isn't gonna leave his wife and kids?

Hey Rachel, dump your zero boyfriend, quit the Thomas campaign, and stop being mentally sick, wash your hair, and I will pay for your law license to be reinstated. I'll even take you out on a date....

Cozz
Cozz topcommenter

@WhoKnows 

Nope, because there is no one in the Republican party that I can see that isn't morally a sleazeball in Arizona.

wherewasi
wherewasi topcommenter

@WhoKnows As I've said before, "Duval vs Smith in the general, and may the best man win."


Smith might not be my ideal candidate, but I could live with it if he beat Duval.  The rest of the GOP line-up: I would be looking all over Arizona for a short pier on which to take a long walk. Yes, I know that would please some of my "good friends in cyberspace" - sorry, it's just an expression...

WhoKnows
WhoKnows topcommenter

@wherewasi I'll be voting for Smith, but it seems his numbers are just above Candy Thomas.....  We got the Ice Cream man that screwed taxpayers, and Jones-Palin that screwed a few guys in the Air force to be "in the military".  (the military was in her...)

wherewasi
wherewasi topcommenter

@bunnywhiteboots Ooooo Bunny! I like coffee ice cream with almonds and hot fudge! Yum!  Did you read the article to find out what we're talking about? Or did you mistake this for the Chow Bella blog??

wherewasi
wherewasi topcommenter

@getmeouttahere I agree 100 percent. I'm actually working on my ballot right now. Smith for governor, Brnovich for AG.


No Screaming Weenies!!

getmeouttahere
getmeouttahere

@66rock I'm an independent taking out a Republican ballot for the primary, and I'm voting for Scott Smith. What I've read and heard about DuVal so far is fairly impressive, but the guy has the personality of cold oatmeal and I just don't see him winning the general, especially given how GOP-tilted this state is. Smith is basically the only GOP candidate who isn't either an amoral, opportunistic, greed-fueled corporate fascist (Ducey and Jones); a batshit-crazy, mentally ill extremist unfit to be dog catcher, much less governor (Thomas and Riggs); or a spineless, personality-deficient cipher who kowtows too much to both groups (Bennett). Smith strikes me a being more of a conservative pragmatist, and people I know who live in Mesa like the way he ran the city and the things he managed to accomplish while he was mayor. His platform focuses more on education and the economy, as opposed to abortion, gay marriage, guns, immigration and other red-meat issues that the rabid, hateful little trolls of the far right feast upon.  He wouldn't be perfect by any stretch, but electing any other GOP candidate would make this state an even bigger hellhole than it already is. And the hard reality is that in AZ 9 times out of 10 the winner of the GOP primary is the de facto general election winner. We can't afford to let anyone but Smith win the primary if we want to keep Arizona from becoming an unlivable, ungovernable failed state.  

getmeouttahere
getmeouttahere

@MaskedMagician1967 I might take that bet. I know a couple people who had the misfortune of working at the MCAO when Candy Andy was in charge, and there was a lot of water-cooler gossip at the time that there was *something* going on between Candy Andy and his little pet, Rachel. Whether it actually progressed much beyond heavy flirtation and/or an almost stalker-level crush on Rachel's part, who knows. But the office gossip at the time was that if Andy ever did step out on his wife, she would haul his ass into divorce court so fast his head would spin, and the dirty laundry that would be aired would ruin him professionally and personally. Basically, his wife has him by the short & curlys, which may also be why the dude is so obviously mentally unhinged...

66rock
66rock topcommenter

@WhoKnows @wherewasi I'm not voting for either of them,this I know absolutely.  I never heard of Jones before and now she's running for governor. Then we have the private prison ex employee, gee what could go wrong there!  Well as a woman, even a woman who can never ever ever vote TP, come on that was a low low post.  I usually up vote you but unless you know that to be true, it's gossip and even worse, sounds like something from  "women only get ahead if they sleep their way to the top" bunch.  I hope you know that's not true.  

wherewasi
wherewasi topcommenter

@WhoKnows. We need the Independents and No Party Designated to show up IN FORCE and VOTE. I'm so sick of the "I don't like the Republicans OR Democrats so I'm going Independent" but then they don't take the initiative to request a primary ballot and VOTE. And then they bitch about who gets elected.


My opinion is that if you don't care enough to spend 2 minutes online requesting a R or D primary ballot, don't spend hours and hours online complaining about the crooks other people elected.


It's the same thing in all aspects of life. Personal accountability. That's the biggest problem we face. Oh, don't get me started-LOL!

66rock
66rock topcommenter

@getmeouttahere @66rock Couldn't agree with you more, you hit the nail on the head.  Unfortunately I do

not have faith in the Az voters.

MaskedMagician1967
MaskedMagician1967 topcommenter

I suspect candy's wife might still leave him and take the kids if he doesn't get a job. Hence the reason he's running for governor.

Child support for 4 kids is gonna be expensive. If he doesn't pony up, it's off to the stony lonesome for our mentally unstable former county attorney.

Perfect. I've heard rumors the feds are planning on reopening their federal abuse of power case....

And I won't pay for Rachel's law license. I will consider taking her on a date though getme.

getmeouttahere
getmeouttahere

@66rock @WhoKnows @wherewasi Most women do not sleep their way to the top it's true. But unfortunately I know a few who did. And interestingly in my experience, those women who did get into top positions on their knees or backs proudly label themselves "conservative."

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