Doug Ducey Calls Christine Jones' Border Plan "Phony," But So Is His

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You gotta love one thing about Republicans: With them, there's always blood in the water.

With erstwhile Go Daddy exec Christine Jones hard on his heels in the GOP primary for governor, and an awesome anti-Ducey ad by a pro-Jones I.E. in circulation, Ducey has fired back beginning today with a new commercial calling Jones out on her border plan, which the ad labels "phony."


Ice-cream man Doug Ducey hits rival Christine Jones hard in this new attack ad

See, in one of her own ads, Jones boiled down her position on border security, thus:

"I'll deploy 1200 troops to the border, use technology to monitor who's coming and going, finish the fence, and send Obama the bill."

See also:
--Christine Jones Pandering and Delusional on Immigration, Border Security
--Doug Ducey's New Ad Claims "Arizonans," Not Obama, Will Get Job Done on Immigration: Why That's Bull
--Doug Ducey and the Stain of Chris Simcox

Problem is, Jones herself says her plan will cost $270 million. As far as sending Obama the bill, she might as well send it to Fred Flintstone, for all the good it'll do.

The Ducey ad pounces on a clip from a campaign appearance Jones made with her top immigration adviser, Pinal County Sheriff Paul Babeu, aka "studboi1," where Jones essentially admits the obvious, that Arizonans will have to pick up the tab for her plan.

"We've tried this whole billing the federal government thing before," she tells the crowd. "Which is why I've said to the people of Arizona, `You're going to have to pay for this.'"

Jones never explains where this $270M will come from, which is significant, since the state budget faces massive shortfalls for the next couple of years, shortfalls sure to wipe out the state's rainy day fund, and still leave us in the red with new court-ordered mandates on education spending.


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mrkjessup
mrkjessup

DOUG DOUCY IS A VERY MEAN MAN AS YOU CAN TELL BY HIS ADS.HE WONT BEABLE TO WORK WITH DEMOCRATS WHATSOEVER....

kd7gmk
kd7gmk

if she wins, get ready for studboi as director of DPS, a street cop who couldn't even get promoted to sgt in Chandler!!!!

bobby5527
bobby5527

all the bad press doesn't seem to be causing any impact on either candidate. they're still running the same ads on television.

MaskedMagician1967
MaskedMagician1967 topcommenter

Casper the friendly ghost will be a better governor than these Republican slugs.

car_del99
car_del99

Listening at these Republicans and others in office , it means that Az. has idiot voters as a majority ?

car_del99
car_del99

If they cut taxes for everybody , how is the state going to pay its debts ?

or, by "everybody " they mean corporations only ?


car_del99
car_del99

I watched it last night , and Smith called them " Carnival barkers " promising things they can not do or deliver , in other words ..LIARS..

So, these GOOBERS want to be " GOOBERNORS " OF GOOBER STATE ?

Reggievv
Reggievv

The disgusting ads run by all these wannabe governor pea brains should be flushed down the toilet by all voters. Thomas's ad on stopping the gay agenda is the most nauseating. They are all trying to out "border" each other. I will build a fence, no I will build a fence 20 feet high, no I will build a fence 50 feet high, no, I will build a fence 5 miles high, with machine gun towers every 20 feet, no, I will bomb every border crosser, no, I will nuke every border crosser, no, I will nuke, and draw and quarter every border crosser. No, I will torture every Mexican or Central American who even "thinks" about crossing the border. Disgusting all.

DNichols
DNichols

Ducey should be running for Maricopa County Sheriff, he has exhibited great racism, and extreme cower to be brave enough to attack women.


He could now proclaim himself:

"America's Toughest" 

like the current Cowardly Racist holding this elected Office.?!


Arizona's bigoted Republicans will choose the biggest "Blow Hard" against our President, and Immigration/Hate.

To: Liberty

Cozz
Cozz topcommenter

If these two are the best Arizona has to offer, we're so screwed for another 4 years.

LucyBabeu
LucyBabeu

I can go further about my reality not being the norm. My reality is that 5 brothers and sisters of Sheriff Paul Babeu (included him makes 6) were sexual abused and raped by our brother John Babeu while we were growing up. I have come forward with this information to law enforcement and to the DA's  office  in Pittsfield MA. My unredacted rape report remains as evidence as a sworn statement at the Mancester Police Station in CT. This is the State where John Babeu lives.

Is this reality? Yes Is this the norm? No, it is never the norm to have a brother sexual abuse you and rape you. It is especially not the Norm to have a brother as a Sheriff in AZ and another brother named Judge Shaun Babeu in AZ, who he sexual abused, to have them both let him visit them in Az, and then actually post a picture of that event on Paul's facebook account for everyone to see. This is out right criminal.

For years I have been being threatened to keep my mouth shut about this or I will be sorry. Is this reality? Yes. Is this the Norm? No, Law enforcement and judges take a oath to protect and serve and that is not being done. I am being called names on all the blogs for even mentioning it. Is this reality? Yes. Is this the norm? No,  But all that is happen when I try to speak about this unjust behavior is get called names like perverted on the blogs.


I am hoping by blogging, it will help other victims of abuse come forward and deal with their reality, no matter who tries to threaten, harass or call them names. I thought the worse happened to me when I was raped. But, I was wrong. It is people that support sick Paul who continues to lie and talk about me being crazy as if it never happened, so Paul does not have to deal with his reality of what happened to him. I am his scapegoat. I am the one he blames for everything his perverse behavior produces. Someday reality is going to hit him in his bald head. Have an nice night. Best regards. Lucy Babeu

LucyBabeu
LucyBabeu

A person made this response to me regarding a post:

BurglarsOrUs

It's hard to tell with you as your reality is not the norm.


I am not going to tell you what my comment was, If you want you can go find it.


I would like to respond in general and say, my reality to people may not seem the norm.

But when you think about it, it depends on who is telling you these facts and whether what I am saying is going to cause  harm or help your cause. Some people only believe what they hear on the news, read in the newspaper, or what a camera, obsessed Sheriff, who or politician that say what ever they know will get them elected.

Let's take for example Paul's picture in his undies on that he posted himself on adams4adadam.

Now, Phoenixnewtimes with run the picture with their article about Paul and a lot of people will call them scum for doing it. But is the picture reality? Yes!!!! Is it the norm? No? Did I take that picture of Paul? No? Did Paul blame me for it? Yes. Do people say that I am making fun of him when I say that is wrong? Yes? Is my reality the norm? AZ likes Paul, so I guess not. But, I feel it is wrong and normal for me to say when you are Sheriff that you should not be doing that. Furthermore, Paul hired a lawyer to blame me that I was blogging about him about this when it was his Mexican lover? Now, who is not dealing in reality?


What people do not realize is the reality is Phoenix new times cannot even post the actual picture of what Paul really post of himself on adam4adam because it is so obscene. It is very offensive and nude. Is this reality? Yes. Is this the Norm? No.

So, it really all depends on who you want to blame for the reality that is getting exposed. If you want to say that the reality and abnormal behavior of Paul Babeu that I talk about is not the norm. I agree with you. I have never seen a state that except such criminal behavior that cannot even been shown on a newspaper and you still want him as your Sheriff. Call me any name you want. I would rather be not the norm, than a naked fool saying "I will suck you off so good".

The truth sometimes appears not to be reality or the norm and it hurts. But if you took your blinders off, a little light might come through and things might appear different for the first time. And they will not be camera's flashing. Best regards, Lucy Babeu

xnvb5
xnvb5

Jones' plan is basically a jerry-rigged one-state knock-off of the old McCain-Kyl 10-Point Border Security Plan that Babeu hawked during McCain's 2010 re-election campaign—with some fatal differences. Comparing it to the original, it's clear that:


1. Jones & Babeu are grossly lowballing the plan's cost. The true cost will likely be a minimum of twice or three times what they advertise.


2. They also underestimate how long it'll take to fully stand the thing up. In the 2010 version, Babeu argued that a minimum of two years was needed. Now he's talking about about six months. 


3. Jones' version necessarily lacks what Babeu himself acknowledged was the original's key feature—more aggressive federal criminal prosecution. Babeu fervently about inflicting pain on child refugees, but it's not clear how he'd actually do it.



wherewasi
wherewasi topcommenter

I've had the TV on for about an hour and Jones' ad has run 3 times. She's spending a lot of somebody's money to prove she's a twit.

wherewasi
wherewasi topcommenter

They BOTH need to sit down with Andy Thomas and get schooled. He stopped illegal immigration when he was the Maricopa County Attorney, you know...

Jukes
Jukes

Send the bill to Obama.  What a joke.  According to the Wall Street Journal and many other sources, Arizona is already #10 on the list of states who take more from the Federal government than they provide in terms of revenue.  For every dollar our citizens pay in income tax, we get back $1.62 worth of services and goods.  One out of every 8 employed Arizonans has a job funded with Federal money.  And almost 40% of the money the state of Arizona spends is already coming from Federal sources.

A great way to get less, instead of more, is to keep bashing the Federal government instead of cooperating.  Especially when laws on the books don't even allow any state to do half the things Arpaio and Babeau are always claiming they will do.  States are not allowed to engage directly with any foreign government and that's never going to change.

eric.nelson745
eric.nelson745 topcommenter

Here's my plan for financing Ducey's border plan: Tax Social Security benefits. That should close any budgetary shortfall. Posters, do you think we should do that in order to "secure" our porous border? Of course, taxation of SS bennies would end when the border improvements are paid off! Now lissen. I'm just trying to be helpful here. Please don't tar and feather me, then run me out of town on a rail! Haha.

annarkey14
annarkey14

And just think, one of these morons is going to be the next governor. And by "these morons," I'm referring to the entire Republican gubernatorial slate.


Thar ain't a sane one in the bunch.

rh19541954
rh19541954

One thing about republicans lately they try to proclaim themselves true conservative and their opponent not a true conservative its like the pot calling the kettle black neither one is anything but what it is!

TommyCollins
TommyCollins topcommenter

I would be foolishly optimistic to think that these two made these 'promises' out of sheer ignorance.


Not so, however. 


Both them know quite well what they are suggesting, and they know it's not realistic. 


They are both hoping to play on the ignorance of the voters in Arizona. Which is in abundance. 


I keep thinking of their target audience as a bunch of toothless misfits from the Tea Bagger group. Unfortunately they are pandering to a crowd of potential voters who could make an informed choice, but simply don't care enough to actually read or listen to what is being presented. Also, very unfortunate, is that exact target audience lives and breathes in every political party or group in the state. 


All some of those folks care about is hearing, "taking care of Illegals" and/or, "Obama done it". Nothing else seems to matter. 

john043012
john043012 topcommenter

Governor Perry is sending troops and  President Obama is guarantying the Hispanic caucus there will be no more deportations he is going to do another executive  action. Gutierrez was at a LA RAZA (THE RACE) rally over the weekend telling (his exact words) his people they have nothing to worry about THAT AMNESTY IS A GIVEN.

The people in this country aren't divided on securing the border they want it secured .There was some support on giving 11-30 (who knows) illegal immigrants some form of amnesty but since most of us found out the Obama administration knew back in 2012 that there would be a stampede of parents children entering and did not want to deal with it for political reasons their support has substantially faded away

MaskedMagician1967
MaskedMagician1967 topcommenter

Jones and Ducey, two slugs unworthy of even showing their faces to the people.

Everything they've spouted is pure bullshit. But there are enough lemmings in this racist, ass-backward state to vote for both of them.

Sick and disgusting!

john043012
john043012 topcommenter

@car_del99 All the illegal immigrant loving jerkoffs are always telling anyone who would listen , those people pay taxes, sales tax. By bring in companies and hiring people they will pay their fair share just like the illegals , sales tax see fair and balanced

Cozz
Cozz topcommenter

@Reggievv 

Just like Monkey's running around trying to get all the banana's.

One trick pony's that have nothing to offer anyone of any value.

HatemakesuUgly
HatemakesuUgly

I'm certain you aren't the only person in the world to have been molested by a family member....everyone deals with tragedy different. I'm not sure why you think it's appropriate to publicly attack your brothers continually because you don't like the way they are dealing with their own horrors...

Why did you lose custody of your children?

Because you were proven to be unfit? You are a destructive person.

john043012
john043012 topcommenter

@eric.nelson745 Arizona already taxes social security and so do the feds. I think there are 11 states that do not

Bnbk
Bnbk

@annarkey14  Don't give up on Duvall just yet. We must work to expose all of these lying RepubliCONs before the general.

john043012
john043012 topcommenter

@TommyCollins  Arizona will never be a blue state as long as the home grown are the majority

Reggievv
Reggievv

It's all political grandstanding. The Guard cannot arrest anyone, they can't shoot. All they can do is stand, with Texas paying. Oh yeah they don't have money for schools in Texas, but found some for the Guard? What nonsense.

WhoKnows
WhoKnows topcommenter

@MaskedMagician1967 It's not these to clowns that are the real morons.  It's the folks that are stupid enough to vote for either one...

BFNG
BFNG

@HatemakesuUgly 



Appropriate?


Anytime is appropriate for calling out and corralling criminals and putting them away instead of allowing them to be among us perpetuating their crimes.


That you view Lucy’s truth telling as a “public attack” and not “appropriate” says everything about where your priorities areWhether you have a low class criminal, someone with a badge and a gun or black robe, or a white collar suit and tie politician or wall street millionaire, anywhere and anytime is an “appropriate place and time” to out them and put them away for crimes committed.


Lucy’s truth telling has not only been about her own personal tragedy, but equally, if not more so, about the crime of it and the perpetuation of crimes stemming from it.Hence, the criminal with a badge and a gun that continues his criminality as sheriff in our name as citizens.


Typical that your focus is on her tragedy and your view that she’s “inappropriate for telling the truth on this blog.


When law and courts are controlled by those who own power, then the truth gets out in the manner that it can.And it will.


You write as though you intimately know the details and facts of how she lost her children and was so called “proven” to be unfit.


More than likely you know nothing at all, but just believed the manipulated lies put together by those with the power to do so that have almost destroyed this woman’s life while these same lies have simultaneously lifted a corrupt sheriff into some national prominence.


Albeit, in this prominence, he looks more criminal and corrupt every time he’s in front of a camera.


I get it though.The sheriff is your boy.You don’t like his big sister spewing truth’s that further tarnish the sheiriff’s already stained image.


I don’t think you’re gonna stop Lucy though.Your critique of her is way shallower than the heap of “crap” that’s already piled on top of your boy the sheriff.


I say “keep it up Lucy”.We need to know what you know


LucyBabeu
LucyBabeu

@HatemakesuUgly 

Did my dear brother's the cowards send you. They are not dealing with their own horrors. They are horrors. Why don't you ask  Paul about kidnapping the kids and trying to taking custody papers out on me for them in AZ which did not work. Why don't you ask Paul and Shaun about their brother,John the rapist who they are harboring before you speak about what you do not know. They are committing a crime by protect him and not coming forward with what they know. John not only raped members of our family, he beat my mother, raped his wife and her sister, raped many girls, in the community, burned down a house in North Adams MA which left 22 students homeless, choked to death his own dog for no reason but enjoyment etc.

John has threaten to kill us if we speak. Paul just does not want his lifestyle and I am not talking about being gay, criminal behavior etc..  out in the public.

Everything I am stating is documented. The truth I speak may be destructive to Paul and Shaun because the are supporting a true rapist instead of other victims, when they are law enforcement and a Judge.

There are other people beside me now that are going be coming forward. So, be ready for some more cowardly name calling. We are use to it. It will not stop us for exposing the real truth.

It will be a true horror that my brothers will have to deal with for once. And I will tell them to go cry to you. Lucy Babeu

Cozz
Cozz topcommenter

@ConcernedCitizenAZ 

Anything would be a raise, the standards can't get any lower than they are now.

Jukes
Jukes

@john043012 @TommyCollins An awful lot of Sheriff Joe's posse ... you know, the oldsters from Sun City riding around in county-paid cars ... are from Michigan, Minnesota, Wisconsin, and Ohio.  They aren't home grown.  They just hold views as unrealistic and hypocritical as ones generated by the home-grown old skool white people and they vote for whomever they perceive as most likely to punish people they don't like and cut their cost of living. 

xnvb5
xnvb5

@john043012 @TommyCollins Probably true if by "the home grown" you mean white. But most Arizonans were born somewhere else. This is especially true among non-Hispanic whites, almost two thirds of whom were born outside the state. (Some, like Tom Horne, are naturalized citizens, but most were born elsewhere in the US.) The only groups comprised mostly of native-born Arizonans are Latinos, about two-thirds of whom were born here (the balance coming mostly from Mexico), and Native Americans. If only people who were born in Arizona could vote, it would've been blue a long time ago.

TommyCollins
TommyCollins topcommenter

@john043012


John, I have no desire for Arizona to be a blue state. I was a life long Republican until I moved to Arizona, almost 11 years ago, and got exposure to the state and local party. But, it certainly makes sense as to why the Republican party is deemed to be red. I think it has something to do with the color of the back of their necks... and nothing to do with Native Americans. 

john043012
john043012 topcommenter

@Reggievv Perry is not acting along most people who live in Texas want this done. This action should not concern you if you are living in another state the cost to you is nothing but the cost to average property owner there would be substantial if they do nothing, Where do you think the money is going to come from to sustain these people ?It sure wont be from the property taxpaying people from other states. You mentioned their school system issues where do you think the money is going to come from to hire a butt load of teacher's? You must face the fact the families entering wont be able to contribute anything for many years they will be taken care of on the taxpayer dime, but you know that. I believe the majority of them are coming here for the benefits and are not refugee's .

LucyBabeu
LucyBabeu

@BFNG 

@BFNG, I appreciate your support and comment. I refuse to explain anything further to a person that hides behind his avatar and calls me honey. He thinks he is God!!!  He is nothing but a coward that hides behind his hateful blog name.

HatemakesuUgly
HatemakesuUgly

If the avatar is you, then you are approaching 50...honey, if it hasn't happened, it ain't gonna. Your whole persona is about revenge and destruction. Look around you; what has your vendetta returned to you?

To forgive is divine. The true benefit of forgiveness is it allows you to move forward and be free of these chains you are allowing to bind you.

Take responsibility for your failures, because they are yours. It's no one else's fault that your own kids have abandoned you. That's on you. You WERE a legitimate victim. You've expressed you want to help others speak out. Do it, but then provide a positive example of what the benefits of speaking out does...cause right now you are a train wreck that no one wants to emulate.

I've not called you any names. I don't know your family. No one has sent me.

I see you destroying yourself in your vain attempts to destroy your own family members. It's sad to witness. I'm not one to placate you...you are a grown woman, not a child.

john043012
john043012 topcommenter

@MaskedMagician1967 I believe there is a tax form w-4v that is part of the package that you fill out when applying. If your total income is over a certain amount the feds will tax a portion(85%) of your benefit .If you are married and have a total income over 34 thousand or if you are single  25 thousand

your benefit will be taxed

BFNG
BFNG

@HatemakesuUgly 


So you’re a preacher.Giving us your insight and all knowing knowledge about forgivenss?


She WAS a victim?So the victimhood is over?Does that mean that those who made her a victim are free and clear of their crimes?


You don know any “train wrecks” that can verbalize and articulate with the correctness and clarity of Lucy.And you know that’s true because you seem to understand every single fact, sentence and paragraph that she utters regarding her horrific journey and those responsible for it.The thing is though, you seem bent on redirecting accountability away from those responsible for her horror and projecting it onto Lucy.They’re the same criminal adults who manipulated/coerced the minds of her young children to lie about her.And yes, they were children. . . . . . . . CHILDREN.We all know how easily children can be influenced by adults in positions of authority, i.e. police officers, lawyers, judges, etc.That’s been demonstrated many times over in courts of law, police interrogation rooms, scientific studies, etc.You know what I mean “HatemakesuUgly”?


So, you say, she’s about revenge and exacting a vendetta; she won’t take responsibility and it’s all her fault(no mention of the sheriff’s illicit, illegal, and perverted personal and professional behaviors he takes no responsibility for)and she’s vain.


And as far as your “To forgive is divine” rhetoric goes.Just wrap it back up the pretty bow and wrapping paper it came in and give back to those corrupt and hypocritical religious clerics who’ve passed it down through millennia for us all to swallow whole.Because it’s a “boatload”, okay?


Okay, if you’re indoctrination and conditioning has made you a forgiver, I sure hope you’re not one who will forget.


Only a “FOOL” would forget those responsible for making them a “victim”.


You think the natives of this country will ever forget, or for that matter forgive us.This includes the native Inuit peoples of Alaska.African Americans will never forget.Nobody ever forgets those who’ve wronged them. HMU you may not have actually said it, but you certainly and deliberately make the implication that Lucy should forget, while simultaneously trying to disparage Lucy. . . . . . . Only because the sheriff’s your boy, though.


And you’re not sliding by trying to say you’ve not called her any names “train wreck”.Okay “HONEY”?Those were poor attempts at backhandedly calling her names, by the way.


I’m not trying to disparage you HMU.You’re an adult and we’re just having a little back and forth difference of opinion, right?


You know you’re a messenger!



john043012
john043012 topcommenter

@ConcernedCitizenAZ  Arizona was the 1st state to elect a Hispanic governor his name was raul castro

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