Suffer the Children? They Certainly Would if Certain Idiot Arizona Politicians Had Their Druthers

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Tom Tingle/Arizona Republic
Horne, exploiting the fate of innocent kids in a pathetic attempt to save his sorry hide.
What did Arizona's political leaders learn from the debacle over Arizona's ethnic-cleansing legislation, Senate Bill 1070?

They learned that hysteria, misinformation, and grandstanding work, as far as garnering attention, and that saying the dumbest thing you can is often surest route to getting your mug on Fox News.

But wait, what if you end up scapegoating children and their moms? What if the solutions you offer are at best deleterious and at worst impossible?

No biggie. There are enough haters from the redneck persuasion out there -- especially among Republican primary voters -- that any ludicrous suggestion tinged with fear-mongering will win you some votes.

So when it comes to the humanitarian crisis of refugees from Central America crossing the U.S.-Mexico border, is it any surprise that the lowest of the low, embattled Attorney General Tom Horne, would take a pause from breaking campaign finance laws and dodging the FBI to stick his sagging beak into the crisis?

As everyone knows, refugees from Central America recently have been overwhelming authorities in Texas, so the U.S. Department of Homeland Security and its sub-agencies, Customs and Border Protection and Immigration and Customs Enforcement, have been transporting the overflow to Arizona for processing.

For about 10 days, this meant hundreds of parents and children from Guatemala, Honduras, and El Salvador were getting bused to the Greyhound station in Phoenix, where they found help from local Samaritans, particularly an organization called the Phoenix Restoration Project.

PRP organizer Cyndi Whitmore tells me it wasn't the first time that this has happened. She and her fellow volunteers have helped individuals dropped off at the Greyhound station for the past two years, offering them food and water, clothing, and sometimes helping with bus tickets.

Whitmore says there were no unaccompanied minors at the bus station. All children dropped off in Phoenix were with a parent. And the adults had paperwork showing they'd been granted humanitarian parole and given a date to appear in immigration court.

Basically, ICE was adhering to standard procedure, processing people and letting them go if they're not criminals and haven't been removed before. These individuals will be in removal proceedings for the foreseeable future.

"That's what ICE does," Whitmore said. "They've been doing it a long time. A lot of people aren't aware of that. It was clear that our politicians weren't."

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Francisco Cortez
Francisco Cortez

Why is Tom Horne still around? he's one of the GOP's most corrupt members.

downtownbrown
downtownbrown

Just admit it, the PNT wants open borders so all the rainbow people can come and take away the white man's things.  Admit it.

judgeharoldlee
judgeharoldlee

Why is it that the news media rarely (if ever) mention that our attorney general has been barred by the feds from trading in securities because of illicit an unethical conduct? even his political opponents seem to be giving him a pass.

arizonanewtimes.com
arizonanewtimes.com

Lemons, you sure have a lot of fucking nerve to talk about exploiting kids for political gain!  It's a fact that Obama is the one to blame for this. The illegal alien babies are being exploited for voter-registration drive for their illegal alien parents.  They are also coming here to spread diseases. I hope you drop dead you stupid son of a bitch.  They are not here for humanitarian reasons, they are here only for amnesty for themselves and their parents. It's outrageous.

Look at http://arizonanewtimes.com and click on BORDER CRISIS at the top to read lots of articles I have republished on the subject.

You can also read on the front page about what I have to say about the latest lawsuit filed against MCSO.

downtownbrown
downtownbrown

"Ethnic cleansing legislation" Hahahaha!  Great use of hyperbole and exaggeration.  I missed it but did you include "jack booted thugs" and "Draconian immigration policies"?  I'm sure they were in there as well as some anti white invective.

judy12
judy12

What do these refugees want.  They have soap and water, a clean place to stay, and food.  Not bad for refugees.  Oh yes, bring the mothers so the rest of the cousins can come in.

james8394
james8394

As I understand it, The reason people are fleeing central America in such numbers, as was stated in the article, is because of a large amount of gang violence. How did this happen? Well, back when Saint Reagan was running the show, sending weapons to Nicaragua and El Salvador (to oppose Sandinistas), many refugees were relocated to Los Angles where the children, having grown up with violence quickly adapted to the gang life style. MS 13 and others. when the political situation in their home countries stabilized, (they just got tired of killing each other) the refugees were sent back. The U.S. is not an innocent victim in this current wave of refugees. And it could be worse. MS 13 could be a lot more active in this country.


Good writing Stephen.  

Guest
Guest

Excellent report. This is the sort of "ideological race" Horne resolved to run at his March 27th core campaign meeting, "ideological" in the context of the contemporary Arizona GOP mostly meaning crudely anti-Latino and anti-immigrant. Horne would never have been elected without this kind of thing, and it's natural that he'd resort to it again in his extremity. He's still a dead man walking.

MaskedMagician1967
MaskedMagician1967 topcommenter

ALL of Arizona's (particularly Nazicopa County) politicians need to be booted.

Then we need to work on getting the entrenched DC pols out. Then Obama.

ohyes
ohyes

I don't care what happens to these kids as long as it doesn't happen in my country.

Slappy
Slappy

Horne's antics make "Big Ern McCracken" look like a saint. As election time rolls near, Horne will appear in a commercial with the FLDS women and children he rescued. 

Checkout this clip: 

http://youtu.be/DR7HcqsBOdg (Ernie McCraken "Big Ern" sponsoring a fatherless family)

Woody Harrelson's expression is classic.  I imagine Mr. Lemmon has the same reaction everytime he sees Horne on T.V. 

Cozz
Cozz topcommenter

Anything honorable and decent suffers at the hands of Horny Dog.

valleynative
valleynative topcommenter

Why haven't we heard a single word about what suddenly caused this mass influx of "refugees"?


Why no attempt to explain why the feds can afford to fly them from Texas to Arizona, but can't even give them bus fare to where their hearings will be?


Why are we pretending this isn't something underhanded?


dogbiter
dogbiter

you're a gigantic racist moron!

danzigsdaddy
danzigsdaddy topcommenter

No thanks......I'll just drop acid if I want to experience insanity..........no need to visit your trip through the looking glass site. I prefer reality, so the taint of your site doesn't appeal to me...............that and I am afraid it may just be one of your many gay porn sites

MaskedMagician1967
MaskedMagician1967 topcommenter

Blah blah blah Robert.

Stop threatening the reporter. You'll be in federal prison soon.

downtownbrown
downtownbrown

@james8394 And Latin america's sky high birth rate and sluggish economies have nothing to do with it?

IgnorantJames
IgnorantJames

@james8394 Except they wouldn't be coming here in mass if Barry didn't bid them to come here. So what's your point; that thirty (30) years ago, Ronald Reagan's policy was to fight communism?  Didn't the Nicaraguans win and communism took over in Nicaragua?  Yes, but like a typical liberal you still blame your own countrymen instead of the people running the country that these ignorant peasant kids come from.  These kids coming here aren't 30 years old, but your already know that; and yet you still looking to blame the Republicans instead of this outright anti-American President implementing his 'fundamental transformation' of America.  Then again you'll probably happy that we are going to have to pay to take care of people who have no skills, don't speak the language, don't respect our laws, belong to gangs, can't support themselves and will undoubtedly send all of their under the cover earnings home instead of back into the local community or even pay taxes to pay for the benefits they consume. In fact, I bet you're not even a hyprocrite.  Your probably down at the border now, teaching them to how to vote without the racist requirement of having an ID.  You'll probably even sponsor some at your house and have them mow your lawn real cheap. James you don't know dick.

Flyer9753
Flyer9753 topcommenter

@ohyes You must be a religious republican


I am sure Jesus is sooo proud of you....

Jukes
Jukes

@ohyes Compassionate conservative practicing family values, one presumes. 

valleynative
valleynative topcommenter

@Cozz 

What do you consider to be honorable and decent about declaring thousands of immigrants to be "refugees" and dumping them in Arizona?

Do you ever think for yourself?

 

Flyer9753
Flyer9753 topcommenter

@valleynative "Why are we pretending this isn't something underhanded?"


Why are you pretending this is something underhanded, sans proof??


Rhetorical question, we all know the answer to that question... well all of us who read your comments that is, I am sure YOU don't know the correct answer to that question...

danzigsdaddy
danzigsdaddy topcommenter

@valleynative wow...............that right there is a damn good question. airfare is considerably more expensive than a bus ticket

Cozz
Cozz topcommenter

@valleynative 

Probably pay back for Arizona being the racist wasteland that it is.

MaskedMagician1967
MaskedMagician1967 topcommenter

Lol Zigs I take it you're a fan of the Doors Jim Morrison?

He dropped acid like candy....

james8394
james8394

@IgnorantJames @james8394 Well, you have an appropriate screen name. My point is simply that policy decisions have consequences. And, as stated in the article, humanitarian parole procedure is clearly defined in regulations.

Cozz
Cozz topcommenter

@IgnorantJames

Bet you know a lot about sucking dick though....

Cozz
Cozz topcommenter

@Jukes 

Its those fine Christian values rearing its racist head.....

Cozz
Cozz topcommenter

@valleynative @Cozz 

You bet, I stop letting racist like you think for me a long time ago.

Flyer9753
Flyer9753 topcommenter

@danzigsdaddy @valleynative Actually it's not when you consider that most of the planes are owned and flown by the fed, those that aren't are leased under contract from the airlines at close to cost.


Several other factors to consider as well, I did research on this when in a Govt. job.


It IS actually cheaper to fly them here when you do the math and factor everything in

66rock
66rock topcommenter

@Cozz @valleynative And ole Jan thought it was so clever to stick her finger the face of the POTUS face that she put it on T-shirts and sold them. Well Az, enjoy the fed finger, it's bigger than yours!  

IgnorantJames
IgnorantJames

@Cozz @valleynative AZ is a racist wasteland, but yet you choose to live here?  Where did your gang-banger ass come from Cali?  You aint no valley native. Your a 100% tear drop eye tattoo'd gang-banging, hs drop-out, un-educated ignorant La Raza voting cholo. 

valleynative
valleynative topcommenter

@Cozz @valleynative 

Let's say that's true (it isn't).

That would be an unconscionable abuse of federal power.

Heads should roll.


danzigsdaddy
danzigsdaddy topcommenter

@MaskedMagician1967 shouldnt have to thank people for acknowledging common sense..............it should be a given, but you are welcome (but you can thank me for pointing out you vocalized common sense)

Cozz
Cozz topcommenter

@IgnorantJames 

Spoken like a true racist POS.

Ignorant fits you perfectly.

MaskedMagician1967
MaskedMagician1967 topcommenter

Actually valley, Arizona's politicians continue to portray Arizona as a racist wasteland.

Arpaio's racial profiling conviction, twice-disgraced, corrupt, narcissistic and mentally sick Pearce's BS1070 and all his other immigration-related bullshit, Arpaio's trying to prove Obama's BC is fake, etc....

Now, I for one would like to think we live in the 21st century. We have to be unbiased and ethical, yet Arizona can't seem to get past this bias towards women and immigrants. Where's the 'abuse of federal power' you're talking about?

SeedyWard
SeedyWard

@valleynative @Cozz Sorry, our local politicians have gone out of their ways to create this chaos. The heads that should roll are in our own legislature and in lobbying groups such as ALEC. Our state deserves every bit of the fallout from SB 1070. What better place for these people to land than Phoenix?

MaskedMagician1967
MaskedMagician1967 topcommenter

Lol that seems to be the problem not just in Arizona, but across the country Zigs

People calling themselves "leaders" become entrenched in public office, and getting rid of them is like getting rid of pests.

After a while, the "leaders" forget what got them into office to begin with and then they start abusing their position and office.

Then, no matter what the "leaders" do and no matter how bad, the sheeple continue to elect entrenched, life-long politicians who serve big business and themselves rather than the people who hired and pay them.

Personally, I think there ought to be US Constitutional amendments allowing the recall of any elected official, like the president, congressmen/congresswomen, cabinet members, etc. (Exactly like Arizona's recall provision).

One forcing term limits on both Houses of Congress. Each person would have 2 4-year terms, with no fat government pension, etc.

And one forcing them to actually be ethical. Pols couldn't lie (I doubt this will ever pass)

Hey, I can dream, right?

valleynative
valleynative topcommenter

@SeedyWard @valleynative @Cozz 

If we were 9 year-olds on a playground, you might seem to have a point, but as adults, you absolutely do not.

Our leaders are supposed to act like adults.

You don't fucking use federal power to get even with your political opponents.

 

valleynative
valleynative topcommenter

@Cozz @valleynative 

No, you know little about anything, and so are unable to use rational arguments, so you invent the fact that I'm a racist in order to justify ignoring my points.

That just makes you look small.


Flyer9753
Flyer9753 topcommenter

@valleynative @Flyer9753 @Cozz Well I would love to, but the wimp that you are, trying to hide the evidence I am sure, has their profile marked private...


What do you have to hide??? Rhetorical question, we all know what you are hiding.

danzigsdaddy
danzigsdaddy topcommenter

@Jukes it depends on how you are asking that....................if you are proposing it as a question to us on our beliefs..............well then, No, no it is not............if you are posing it as to our current political body............well then, it would have to be a YES, yes they do think it is

valleynative
valleynative topcommenter

@Flyer9753 @valleynative @Cozz 

It's easy to find lots of posts by me.

Since you're so sure I'm racist, you should be able to find one.  But you're just a fucking liar, trying to deflect from the fact that you don't really understand the issues involved in this topic.

Flyer9753
Flyer9753 topcommenter

@valleynative @Jukes @SeedyWard @Cozz They were not protecting the constitution, they were using it to try to settle scores they could not settle on their own.


If they were protecting the constitution then many of the laws they passed would not have been ruled unconstitutional.


They might have thought they were protecting the constitution, but they were wrong... just like you when you try to think.

Flyer9753
Flyer9753 topcommenter

@valleynative @Flyer9753 @Cozz No, I am just not interested in wasting my time going through all the web pages on NT. I, unlike you clearly, actually have a life and you are not that important (contrary to your own beliefs)


Of course, since you are so sure you are not a racist, prove it yourself - unblock your profile so you can prove it.


But of course you won't, your just a wimp who hides behind a KB and private profiles.


C'mon - show us you are not a racist, unblock your profile... of course you won't... you know the evidence that you ARE a racist is all right there, in your own words, typed by your own hands, on your own profile... that you are keeping private..


If you are so sure you have proof that shows otherwise, unblock your profile and show that you are not, Mr. I'm-not-a-Racist

valleynative
valleynative topcommenter

@Flyer9753 @valleynative @Cozz 

Tell me, genius, how can my profile prove a negative?

You're the one who made the accusation, entirely because you are totally unequipped to debate the actual issues.  Find something to support it or apologize like a man.

As you've shown time and again, you don't understand elementary logic.  You believe that if I argue against something and racists also argue against it, that this is evidence that I'm racist.


Flyer9753
Flyer9753 topcommenter

@valleynative @Flyer9753 @Cozz "Tell me, genius, how can my profile prove a negative?"


ROFL!!!! Easy.. either their are racist comments in your profile history or their are not. Simple


Either there are racist comments in your history or their aren't, the fact you refuse to show your comments says there are racist comments in your history. 


Prove me wrong, Mr. I-am-not-a-Racist

Posseofone
Posseofone

@valleynative you are arguing with an imbecile.

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