Solar-Power Buyers at Risk of Being Ripped Off, Says Arizona Attorney General Tom Horne

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Arizona Attorney General Tom Horne warns Arizonans to watch out for unscrupulous solar-power firms.
State Attorney General Tom Horne wants Arizonans to be careful of being ripped off by greedy solar-power companies.

In an announcement this morning, the state AG accused "some" rooftop-solar companies -- which he didn't name -- of unethical behavior. Horne dumped on solar-lease deals in general, saying buyers need to be careful or they'll end up paying more for their electricity.


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We've got mixed feelings on this one: On one hand, we've been critical of solar power for some of the same reasons Horne notes in his warning, such as the fact that its usefulness is often oversold to the public.

Our interest in taking a less-than-promotional look at solar began with our examination of the Matinee Energy scam, a bogus solar-panel firm that claimed it would build one of the state's largest solar plants near Benson. It fled its Tucson office after New Times' investigation, and a lawsuit by its partners is still wending its way through Arizona U.S. District Court.

But pumping out releases like this could also be seen as a would-be deflection against the negative media attention Horne has received lately due to his campaign-finance scandals. He's struggling to keep his head afloat for two contested races he may face this year, first against Mark Brnovich in the Republican primary election on August 26, and, if he pulls that off, in the November 4 general election against Felecia Rotellini. After seeing today's release, we recalled a recent prediction by our colleague, New Times writer Stephen Lemons, that Horne would attack Brnovich "from the far right, because Horne has nowhere else to go."

Horne's press officer, Stephanie Grisham, e-mailed the release to New Times and other news media this morning. The release comes a day after the pro-solar group TUSK, led by Barry Goldwater Jr. and political consultant Jason Rose, staged a demonstration at the State Capitol to protest a move by the state Department of Revenue to start taxing solar-lease companies for the equipment they're putting on residential rooftops.

Arizonans may be looking to lower their power bills, and they may have heard about various tax credits and rebates that make solar energy a more viable option, Horne's release says. But he notes there is "no guarantee" of savings in deals that involve lease or finance payments. The dealer receives the rebates, then "mark up the component costs and labor so significantly that the costs of the system far exceed the potential benefits."

Competition between firms "has led some companies to engage in unethical behavior to obtain more customers and perform more installs," Horne claims in the release. They use "high pressure sales techniques or deceptive statements," and customers "may end up paying higher combined electricity costs after installing the system than before."

He then gives some tips to avoid being swindled.

Of course, some solar advocates might say the reduction in pollution by solar panels is worth you paying the extra cost.

The office's press-release web page doesn't yet contain the solar-scare, but it probably will at some point.

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Tom Horne, Arizona Attorney General
Meantime, Horne returned our call just now (about 12:30 p.m.)

The news release originated out of ongoing investigations being conducted by his office, Horne says, but he's not able to share details with the public at this time. The office will make an announcement "once we do something."

A civil injunction, maybe even a criminal case, could be the result, but Horne wouldn't speculate which was more likely. Nor would he name names.

Solar energy and the level it's subsidized by the public are "serious policy issues." But the investigations and warning stem from alleged misrepresentations about electricity-bill savings.

Horne denied that issuing a general advisory about solar-lease firms was a diversion or deflection from his legal and political troubles, though he acknowledged he knew it might be controversial due to the "powerful lobby" of solar companies.

He says the media has focused on "personal attacks" against him while ignoring the other work he does as the state's top cop.

"All along I've been doing my job. I've argued in more cases than any attorney general in Arizona history," he says, mentioning the long list of news releases on his official state web site.

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Irony alert: A Tucson TV station, KGUN9, ran an article today about Horne's warning that's bordered by two rooftop-solar-company ads.
Horne's troubles go well beyond personal attacks, actually. On Monday, he filed a formal response denying the claims by a former employee that he conducts campaign business illegally on state time. The Citizens Clean Elections Committee and state Secretary of State's office will figure out whether Horne did anything improper. The evidence so far seems to suggest he did.

Horne's facing calls for his resignation and the prospect of having to return $400,000 in donor contributions due to a previous campaign-related scandal.

In these cloudy times for his campaign, he's throwing a cloud over Arizona's rooftop solar industry. Maybe it'll help him, considering that most of the opposition to solar is found in conservative circles.

The national Solar Energy Industry Association didn't appreciate Horne's message, saying the state AG " fails to point out that for some solar systems, depending on application, location, and financial incentives, the payback period can be as little as four years."

Four years, huh? Not if the Arizona Corporation Commission allows Arizona Public Service to charge solar users more fees. To Horne's (potentially tainted) point, you've got to check out these sorts of claims before signing on the proverbial line which is dotted.

UPDATE: Solar companies, through TUSK, responded to our inquiry and blasted Horne for using "questionable judgment:"

"We enthusiastically agree it's always good practice for consumers to do their homework before making a purchase," said the solar-company group, fronted by Rose and Goldwater Jr. "But when the Arizona Attorney General generalizes and smears an entire industry; that's wrong and frankly demonstrates questionable judgment. The Attorney General should get his ethical house in order before smearing ethical businesses in Arizona that follow the law, give consumers energy options, and employ thousands of Arizonans.​"

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shaksign
shaksign

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ConcernedCitizenAZ
ConcernedCitizenAZ topcommenter

Who's being ripped off? 

"Today the U.S. Court of Appeals for the Ninth Circuit unanimously ruled that the American Civil Liberties Union (ACLU), ACLU of Arizona and the Prison Law Office can move forward with a lawsuit against the state of Arizona on behalf of all 33,000 prisoners in the state’s 10 prisons and all future prisoners."

"The State of Arizona has long ignored the basic needs of people confined in its prisons, including the constitutional mandate to provide adequate health care. Prisoners have suffered unnecessarily and even died while waiting for basic care," said David Fathi, Director of the National Prison Project at the ACLU, who argued the case for the prisoners in the Court of Appeals. "This ruling brings us closer to requiring the executive and legislative branches to end their neglect and indifference once and for all." — with Patti Jones and 2 others. (7 photos)

ConcernedCitizenAZ
ConcernedCitizenAZ topcommenter

Arizona's people and taxpayers are being ripped off by a broken criminal justice system, that the AG and MCAO (largest county) have chosen to ignore and keep from the public. 

CPS, VA, crisis after crisis, while the broken criminal justice system is ignored?

Solar panels?? New political-media sound byte? Solar panels are the least of our concerns when our rights are by being taken away by a state attorney general who uses our taxpayer dollars against the peoples' best interests?

We're more concerned about lack the integrity of Arizona's justice system - driven by the AG - with the chaos going on in the out-of -control, revolving door state attorney general's office; the unqualified people handling serious cases and issues like family court / child support, wrongful termination lawsuits against professionals like nurses and teachers. 

The Arizona state Attorney General's office lacks ethics and credibility, meanwhile peoples' lives, families and children hang in the balance. 

This is part of a public outcry. Any other top official would resign or get fired, but prosecutors have no oversight, no transparency and no accountability. The prosecutors (the attorney general and county attorneys) also have absolute immunity. They answer to NO ONE. What does that equal? Tyranny.

ConcernedCitizenAZ
ConcernedCitizenAZ topcommenter

Solar panels, education or your Constitutional rights? 

"It has been 60 years since the landmark Supreme Court ruling in Brown v. Topeka Board of Education outlawed school segregation in America. The decision shook the country to its core, defying the fundamentals of the country’s most ardent and longstanding manifestations of racism – the legal, physical separation of the races. 

The 1954 decision ruling that racial segregation in public schools violated the Fourteenth Amendment (guaranteeing equal protection), as well as the Fifth Amendment (guaranteeing due process), forced the country – and the court, for that matter – to reckon with the unfulfilled Constitutional rights of countless African Americans who’d for generations been denied the most basic rights."  

Slappy
Slappy

Arpaio's phone call to Horne the day after this article:  Horne, I told you the solar panel idea would flounder -use the puppy angle, it works all the time.  

danzigsdaddy
danzigsdaddy topcommenter

Tom says solar is a ripoff???? So is having his employees that are on our dollar doing his campaign work on our time.

ConcernedCitizenAZ
ConcernedCitizenAZ topcommenter

Resign, AG Horne and take your unqualified "harem" with you. Don't let the solar panels hit you in the behind on the way out. 

ConcernedCitizenAZ
ConcernedCitizenAZ topcommenter

Warning. Beware of solar panels or out of control prosecutors, who are robbing you of your rights and your lives, on a daily basis in the courts and state legislature? You decide. This is the most critical area of your lives living in the state of Arizona - a culture of hatred, bias, bigotry and racism. Think justice is fair and equal for all in Arizona?

ConcernedCitizenAZ
ConcernedCitizenAZ topcommenter

Arizona's people and taxpayers being ripped off by a broken criminal justice system, the AG and MCAO (largest county) have chosen to ignore and keep from the public. CPS, VA, crisis after crisis, while the broken criminal justice system is ignored?

Solar panels?? New political-media sound byte? Solar panels are the least of our concerns when our rights are by being taken away by a state attorney general who uses our taxpayer dollars to against the peoples' best interests?

We're more concerned about lack the integrity of Arizona's justice system driven by the AG, with the chaos going on in the out-of -control, revolving door state attorney general's office; the unqualified people handling serious cases and issues like child support, wrongful termination lawsuits against professionals like nurses and teachers. 

The Arizona state attorney general's office lacks ethics and credibility, meanwhile peoples' lives, families and children hang in the balance. 

There is a public outcry. Any other top official would resign or get fired, but prosecutors have no oversight, no transparency and no accountability.

The prosecutors (the attorney general and county attorneys) also have absolute immunity. They answer to NO ONE. What does that equal? Tyranny. 

Jukes
Jukes

Nothing would inspire me to do ANYTHING faster than having Tom Horne warn against it. 

WhoKnows
WhoKnows topcommenter

Will the risk of being ripped off be any greater that what happens with an unethical public "official" that misuses taxpayer money and resources?

eric.nelson745
eric.nelson745 topcommenter

My only motivation to have solar installed would be to have uninterrupted power in case the grid gives out, as it did in 2008 following a really big blow which produced 110 mph straight line winds in central Phoenix. Thousand of trees were knocked down, above-ground utilities were destroyed and some customers were without power for as much as two weeks. In August, no less! But man was I lucky! My building (one of  four in a central Phoenix condo complex) was the only one that didn't lose power.

Slappy
Slappy

Horne has no credibility. 

teknik
teknik

leasing is bad, owning is good.


got it, thanks!

Cozz
Cozz topcommenter

Leasing is a rip off. The only one's that get the credits are the companies that lease it to you. You might save 25 to 40.00 a month by leasing. If APS and SRP get their way, it will cost more in the long run to have solar in the future by the time they add every fee and tax they can get past the corporate commission and bribe the politicians to allow.

I looked into a couple of different programs, most I would save on a 5 year lease is $40.00 a month on a 3500 sf house. Wasn't worth talking the risk knowing how the utility companies here like to rip people off and have the corporate commission and politicians in their pockets.

WhoKnows
WhoKnows topcommenter

@Slappy Now, if HorniBoi followed "The Joker's Guide to Fooling the Public" he'd be claiming a death threat from a kid in Canada.....

WhoKnows
WhoKnows topcommenter

@danzigsdaddy It's TommiBoi doing against companies with this, after his LIFETIME ban by the the SEC for being involved in anything that impacts stocks?  Deport him back to Canada!

ConcernedCitizenAZ
ConcernedCitizenAZ topcommenter

p.s. Watch me, watch me! I went to Harvard. Using your taxpayers dollars, I get to grandstand and go before the U.S. Supreme Court to take away the peoples' rights gained over 60 years ago. I'm better than you -- the public - you bunch of fools and idiots. I only want your vote and all your money (& asset forfeiture). 

ConcernedCitizenAZ
ConcernedCitizenAZ topcommenter

... As disbarred and disgraced ex-Maricopa County Attorney runs for Governor in the GOP primary? How low are the standards for a Governor position? Where the hell is the AZ Bar protecting its lawyers, while destroying other professionals, day after day in the courts? Driven by the AG's office


ConcernedCitizenAZ
ConcernedCitizenAZ topcommenter

@WhoKnows Arizona's criminal justice system is in crisis. This is the states top prosecutor and totally ignores this looming crisis, he helped perpetuate. 

ConcernedCitizenAZ
ConcernedCitizenAZ topcommenter

@Slappy "Solar-panel-Horne", identifying a real crisis in the state. Really? 

ConcernedCitizenAZ
ConcernedCitizenAZ topcommenter

@teknik He got you! Now you're distracted off the real issues.

ConcernedCitizenAZ
ConcernedCitizenAZ topcommenter

@Cozz He got you, too. Distracted, off the real crisis of Arizona's broken criminal justice system - in crisis. Do you want your state's top prosecutor restoring our rights or cheaper solar panels sucking up the media and redirecting your attention.  You decide.

danzigsdaddy
danzigsdaddy topcommenter

@WhoKnows ya know..........after like 7 or 8 times with that kid, maybe we ought to just put them in a room together and see which one walks out in one piece? as long as there are no sidewalks or parking lot boulders involved, Joe might be able to have a chance. (i hear people say Canada has good health care..........it sure doesnt seem "MENTAL HEALTH CARE" is part of their health plan though)

ConcernedCitizenAZ
ConcernedCitizenAZ topcommenter

This is a message for all the candidates for state Attorney General, ramping up Arizona "prison/police" state.

Cozz
Cozz topcommenter

@ConcernedCitizenAZ 

Yes, Horne is a total asshole and corrupt as the day is long, but regardless, solar lease programs are still a rip off.

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