A Dispute Over Phoenix Leash Laws Starts a Neighborhood Battle

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It was not as though Lulu lacked manners.

However!

It was Cinco de Mayo, and sometimes a girl just . . . loses all self-control.

When the front door swung open, Lulu took one look at the chaos inside the home and threw herself into the party. She went straight to the couch and knocked a beer out of the hand of an attorney sitting there. Lulu then drank in the scene.

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She scanned the 20 or so dogs in the living room.

Surrounded by her own kind, and inside a home, she was free and pleased with her canine self. Lulu looked back at the man who'd let her off her leash.

"This is who I am . . . Do you see me, finally?"

I'd seen that look before. It was the look Maria Conchita Alonso, all ratted hair and gang makeup, gave Sean Penn's cop in the movie Colors.

How you like me now . . . bay-bee?


The party was for dog owners who let their mutts off leash at Los Olivos, a city park. These dog walkers had been targeted by police for allowing their pets to chase a ball, to catch a Frisbee, to, you know, run with the big dogs.

So, a year ago, they gathered to commiserate on Cinco de Mayo. The host, Francine Hardaway, invited everyone to bring their dogs to her home.

She threw the party again, last month.

At last year's party, everyone was up in arms about city cops taking the time and money to ticket people who let their dogs run loose in city parks.

These folks aren't layabouts lingering near the basketball hoop that hasn't had a net in years. These are the people drawn in the architectural renderings of parks, the people who turn a greenscape into a neighborhood.

This year, the Los Olivos people are not just resigned; they are demoralized.

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fankromank555
fankromank555

Sounds to me like somepeople jsut have WAY too much spare time on their hands!

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arnold
arnold

The people at the 2nd Ave and Portland parkway who let their dogs off leash hide behind this "Good Citizen" bullshit too. One lady's dog ran up to my dog and I while out walking hundreds of feet in front of her. Had her dog attacked my dog she would've been totally unable to do anything about it. There's a dog park down the street, fuck heads

BeenAwhile
BeenAwhile

Seems like you proved the point that you were trying to refute:

You never see a dog on a leash in anyone's home. You just don't = “70 percent of bites and injuries occur not in the park but rather in the home

Dogs required to be on leash out of home = “When dogs are out, dog bites barely register on the state's abacus

Nicely done. – seems like the leash laws about which you complain are actually working in limiting the number of dog bites that occur in public.


BTW - nice dig at attorneys.  Never mind that when Arpaio and Thomas tried to run roughshod over your Constitutional rights you used a team of very good attorneys to protect you and defend your rights – those were your attorneys so they were good.  Other people’s attorneys - not so much.  I guess that’s just the way it is. 

Gary Rorrer
Gary Rorrer

Too many apartments and homeowners.have too put up with this bull!

Mike Goers
Mike Goers

If Phoenix had enough dog parks, perhaps we wouldn't be having this debate. But we don't compared to other cities & it would be very costly at $350,000 per park to catch up. That's why a growing list of forward looking cities are adding 'off leash hours' in designated sections of unfenced neighborhood parks as a cost effective way to allow more unleashed space. It seems to be working - these cities just keep adding more 'OLH' space.

Kj Adams Blacque-Kinsella
Kj Adams Blacque-Kinsella

I agree that there should be leash laws because you never know when a dog is going to turn nasty. But I don't agree with the picture advertising this. Dog with a noose around it's neck can be taken in the wrong way. Its not necessary!

Leslie Ferreira
Leslie Ferreira

Yes even if, your dog is well trained because shit happens!

Mario James LoCoco
Mario James LoCoco

Not if your dog's are trained like mine... They never go 10 feet from me

Susan Johnson
Susan Johnson

YES!! My dogs are people friendly, but not dog friendly. If my leashed dog kills your unleashed dog after he runs up to her, are you going to be upset? Of course! So leash your dog.

Trista Kinsella
Trista Kinsella

This is a stupid question. I don't care how well trained a dog is it should always be on a leash. I had a well behaved dog and it still tried to launch itself at a child running up to it. She hated fast moving things. And was not a fan of other dogs. It was safer to keep her leashed.

Candice Maria Simpson
Candice Maria Simpson

I walk my dogs off leash all the time. My dogs r better behaved than most people's human kids. Most people cant/shouldn't walk dogs off leash cause they haven't invested the MAJOR time it takes to train/socialize their dogs. I do carry leashes so when I c dogs ON LEASH BUT PULLING THEIR owners around I can make that owner who obviously isn't the pack leader feel at ease.

Steve Palermo
Steve Palermo

Hah! Was thinking the same thing. Way to ask a question and bias the answer. Seems to have failed in that regard.

Steve Palermo
Steve Palermo

Leashes yes. Dogs are territorial by nature and many dog owners fail to properly socialize them with other dogs and people. We arent living in small town America here where old yeller protects the homestead. Keep them leashed.

Carlos Hernandez
Carlos Hernandez

Sometime I feel like Americans today cares more about a dog then a actual human beings.

Mike Shea
Mike Shea

If your dog is off your property, keep it on a leash.

Tim Fitchner
Tim Fitchner

Because they are some sick fucking puppies.

Tim Fitchner
Tim Fitchner

Because it gets attention.Ya know...sick shit...people love it.

Zack Blowe
Zack Blowe

If at a dog park no but in a public setting yes

Jason Myers
Jason Myers

I don't think some of these people haven't read the story

Sue Palen
Sue Palen

I have owned mini schnauzers for over 25 years. Over those years, my dogs and I have been attacked by 1) an unleashed rottweiller. I took the owner to court because my dog was injured. The owner insisted that it was my fault because my dog was barking at his dog. I won the case, but the owner still insisted that it was my fault, 2) a large unleashed mix breed dog. This owner admitted fault, but my dog was injured, 3) I was attacked by a pit bull and this owner actually laughed at me when his dog had his jaw around my arm. These are just a few of the hilights of my dog walking experiences. I always walk my dogs with harnesses and leashes. I keep them close to my side and I carry a cane (I have back problems) and mase. I am considering getting a stun gun. My dog walks are supposed to be enjoyable experiences for my dogs, and walking helps my back problems. I have NEVER walked one of my dogs without a leash/harness. Please keep your dogs on a leash. If you want to play with your dog off-leash, do it in your fenced yard or at a designated dog park. This issue should not even be up for debate....smh

Mark Piucci
Mark Piucci

Yes though not necessarily at dog parks

Cynthia Kostmerchock-Kroll
Cynthia Kostmerchock-Kroll

Yeah animal control is slow as shit, and when my neighbors 2 dogs came into my back yard, and killed 2 litters of feral kitten, I called ac and they came out, I made contact, and they gave them a 50.00 fine!! I said 50 dollars???? I can wipe my ass with 50. Yall should make it 500, then someone might notice and actually DO something, like close their damn gate!!!!!

Cynthia Kostmerchock-Kroll
Cynthia Kostmerchock-Kroll

Yes!! Leash laws are for a reason and even tho your dog may be friendly, other peoples may not. So if everyone is on a leash, everything is under control and just fine!!!! Why risk it.

Beatrice Kabab
Beatrice Kabab

My human child uses a car seat. My fur baby a leash. I love them both.

Stew McConnaughey
Stew McConnaughey

Yes.....and btw. ..that's a pretty fucked up pic....might want to change it

Lisa Kaiser
Lisa Kaiser

Yes, dogs do need to be leashed at all times in public places: for the safety of human beings and for the safety of the dog.

PortlandSt
PortlandSt

@arnold YES! This happened to me on this same location and I hope it wasn't the same woman. She got incredibly defensive with me when I told her that it causes aggression in dogs when one is on a leash and another isn't. My dog and I definitely weren't excited to meet her dog running at him full speed with no owner in sight. 

I actually called the non emergency line on her the second time it happened because she refused to call her dog away and she was with a group of people with unleashed dogs, so that is a good route to go. I just called and told them I was walking the other direction to get my dog out of a bad situation, and they sent someone out quickly. I wasn't even down the block yet before I heard them pull up. 

PortlandSt
PortlandSt

What about other dogs that aren't well trained? How are people supposed to know that yours is well-trained? And do you have any idea how many people make the same claim you do and yet their dog ends up humping or showing sigsn of aggression to our dogs while we're out walking? Leash your dog. 

Hock
Hock

You promise to stay 11 feet away from my dog regardless of what my leashed dog does to provoke your dog?  You PROMISE?  You have to mean it...really mean it.  Oh, and you dog has to promise too.

Jukes
Jukes

Up until the day they make an exception.  And you can't predict when that will be.

BeenAwhile
BeenAwhile

There are no other types of kids other than "human" kids.  Your dog is not your kid or your child. The fact that you seem to think otherwise as evidenced by the way that you phrased you comment makes it clear why your perspective regarding your dog is as warped as it is.

Hock
Hock

@PortlandSt @arnold I hate the stress of worrying about other people's dogs that are off lead.  Everyone is better of with leashes...its the safe and polite thing to do.

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