Tom Horne Turned AG's Office Into Campaign HQ, According to Sarah Beattie

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Ex-AG staffer Sarah Beattie says she saw Horne make fundraising calls from the AG's Office...

Beattie has other documents to back up her claims of widespread political work by state employees on campaign time, such as agendas for Horne's regular 2 p.m. Wednesday "calendar meetings."

I was shown one such document, with the notation at the top, apparently made by someone at the AG's office, which states, "deep blue is political."

Most of the items mentioned on the agenda were in deep blue.

"I was asked to participate in these official calendar meetings because of my know-how with fundraising," Beattie explained.

Horne was always at the meetings, she said.

According to Beattie, AG staff members were advised to bring in their own computer equipment, and use their own cell phones and personal e-mail accounts, so as not to create a public record.

"They said do your stuff on your laptops, be cautious, don't send anything to your official e-mails," she recalled. "It was very coordinated. It was very smart. I'm sure he's not the only guy in the country that's running his campaign on tax dollars."

I asked who specifically asked her and other staff to do this, and she said both Horne and Horne's chief of staff Margaret Dugan made this request.

According to election law experts I've spoken with, the use of personal devices and accounts on state time would not insulate Horne and his staff from federal and state laws regulating political work by public employees.

Indeed, the AG office's own policies on political activity, as set forth in a memo sent out to AG staff last year, advise that, "No public employee may participate in any political or campaign work while on the public's time."

Specifically, there are laws regulating both state and federal political activity by government workers, known as the Hatch Act, and in the case of the state, the "little Hatch Act. "

Election law expert and former Assistant Arizona Attorney General Jim Barton saw several problems for the AG's Office in the allegations raised by Beattie.

"Basically, you have two classes of regulation," he told me. "You've got one that has to do with Hatch Act stuff or mini-Hatch Act...So, essentially, is he requiring his employees, employees of the state to violate the Hatch Act?

"That's one big class of problems. And then you have a misuse of public resources, right? That's another class of problems.

"And if they're using their own e-mail accounts, and they're using it for stuff that they're assigned, it creates a question about whether that becomes a public document that they created at work, at the direction of the attorney general."


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standwitharizona
standwitharizona

If the "entire staff" was supposedly doing this, then why is only ex-stripper and cokehead Sarah Beattie alleging it?

MaskedMagician1967
MaskedMagician1967 topcommenter

If I were Tom Ryan, I'd get a warrant for a wiretap of ALL HorniBoi's offices (which would enable him to hear what political work Horne is doing on State time).

That would be a start. I also think Ryan should get warrants for all Horne's AG computers, access to his campaign finance statements, etc.

If there's a case, THEN send it to MontyPug (who will likely refuse to prosecute) and the Office of Special Counsel in DC that investigates federal Hatch Act violations.

OHBOY
OHBOY

How credible is Sarah Beattie who deliberately lied that someone else took the binder?  She is not a real profile in courage for speaking up.  Once a liar, always a liar.  Beattie probably didn't get another raise.  Now she is talking.

WhoKnows
WhoKnows topcommenter

Let us not forget that Tommy HorniBoi also has had a lifetime ban from the SEC.  And let's not forget he's also from Canada.  Let's put his sorry ass on a plane with Justin Beiber and deport them both!

MaskedMagician1967
MaskedMagician1967 topcommenter

Why am I not surprised?

Go get 'em Tom Ryan! I would LOVE to see Horne fall the way twice-disgraced, corrupt, narcissistic and mentally sick Pearce did. That would be as big a show as seeing Judge Snow bitch-slap Arpaio....

DNichols
DNichols

I bet if you asked Miss Chenal,  that Married Mr. Horny has used his office for worse illegall enterprises?!

Hornes "Head" quarters.

Flyer9753
Flyer9753 topcommenter

Is anyone really surprised by all of this???


I mean, we all want to be surprised, we all hope it's not this way, but really, are we surprised???


After all, this is Arizona... a state I love but a state that is the biggest political shit hole in this entire country... a place where law does not matter, the only thing that matters is who you know and who you blow


All because we have an electorate of blue hairs that spend all their time with their heads buried in the sand, thinking they actually live in the la la land they built in their heads that was never real to begin with...


So glad this state is turning blue...


And before anyone rags on me for the blue reference... if you do, be ready for a tit for tat, blue vs red that you have already lost... are both sides fucked, yes, but there are levels to that 'fuckedness' and the Republicans are winning that contest easily and without even trying....


Which is really sad when you think about it.


Too bad there is not a way to shitcan every single legislater/politician in Arizona (Rep AND Dem, Joe included since he's not a sheriff but a politician) and start over with a clean slate... it would be the best thing Arizona could hope to do

NoOneLikesU
NoOneLikesU

Wire taps cost money. It's not equitable to spend 1/4 mill to start a tap on what amounts to a civil sanction for violating the hatch act.

danzigsdaddy
danzigsdaddy topcommenter

@MaskedMagician1967  ya know.............i would normally say you were wrong about the wire taps catching illicit behavior, because NORMALLY people would cease their activities once they were tipped off they were being watched..................................but Horne doesnt seem to really observe that one does he? i also think Horne is stupid enough to start destroying all the records he was told to preserve and submit (it worked for Joe)

TheyCallMeMrTibbs
TheyCallMeMrTibbs

@OHBOY Spoken like one of Horne's dolts. Any little white lie she told is dwarfed by all the crap Horney boy's done over the years. I hope the FBI is paying attention, and will put weenie Horne behind bars.

Flyer9753
Flyer9753 topcommenter

@WhoKnows  As much as I would like too.. can't get behind that :)

valleynative
valleynative topcommenter

@Flyer9753  

The best we could do would be to replace our election system with an "instant run-off" system.  Such a system gives less preference to the most extreme candidate from each party, allowing moderates and even third-party candidates to have a chance of being elected.


TommyCollins
TommyCollins

She is quite the lil hypocrite, however. Lying and stealing aren't necessarily quality traits. Sounds like she fit in well as a Horne staffer. I think she's lying about her reasons for quitting.

teknik
teknik

@valleynative @Flyer9753  That top two initiative that failed would have been nice.


The shame is the primaries combines with folks who only tow the party line.

Flyer9753
Flyer9753 topcommenter

@valleynative @Flyer9753  No, the best we can do is an equal election system.


No more private money, no donations. 


You want to run, great, you get X from the state of Fed (election depending) and you get X media time, mandatory coverage from the media for X debates. 


You mismanage those, that's your problem, you should have shown you can manage better.


No more ads for a candidate paid for by 3d parties... no more campaign donations of any kind - get caught you are out, if the candidate you are barred from elected office for LIFE, if the giver you are heavily fined and jailed on election tampering.


etc... there are other things I envision, but I you probably get the gist


It's our election system, we should pay for it and be responsible for it and it should be fought on a level playing field

valleynative
valleynative topcommenter

@WhoKnows @teknik@valleynative@Flyer9753 

We need to stop subsidizing the private elections held by the political clubs we call "parties".

They should be paying for their own primaries, and the primary elections and their results should be decoupled from the general elections.

Flyer9753
Flyer9753 topcommenter

@WhoKnows @teknik @valleynative @Flyer9753  

Have to agree.


The top two thing was never a serious proposal as all it does is mean now the top two MONEY spenders and therefore influence receivers end up in the general.

WhoKnows
WhoKnows topcommenter

@teknik @valleynative @Flyer9753  We need an open primary in AZ.  So that ALL primary candidates are on ALL ballots.  Then the winner from each party for each race, goes on to the general....

Flyer9753
Flyer9753 topcommenter

@CaptainAmerica @Flyer9753 @valleynative  "Question - Should corporations be limited in what they can spend on commercial advertising? I'm not referring to political speech, purely ad dollars."


Not relevant to the discussion so until you show relevance, I don't see a need to get off topic.


"OUr elections would be filled with people who have no  business running for office and should not be leading others if you simply gave an equal microphone."


Wow.. sheeple much are you? You are straight up advocating for a monarchy and for a select group of people to make the decision of who is qualified, per you, to run the country.


Thanks for ignoring the constitution that says I and every other american have an EQUAL voice as you, and just deciding for me... since of course you are smarter than me, who should lead... 


Arrogant much are you???

CaptainAmerica
CaptainAmerica

@Flyer9753 @CaptainAmerica @valleynative  OUr elections would be filled with people who have no  business running for office and should not be leading others if you simply gave an equal microphone. This is essentially what clean elections is. Clean Elections gives us people like Carl Seel, Rick Murphy, Randy Pullen, Ed Ableser, etc.

What you are proposing - in utopian terms - sounds great. What you are proposing - in reality - is a disaster. 

And you trust the government to administer this 'equal' system? 

fishingblues
fishingblues topcommenter

@valleynative  


Unfortunately, stupid (or at least ignorant) voters make up the vast majority.  

MaskedMagician1967
MaskedMagician1967 topcommenter

"Money can't buy votes."--valleynative

Actually, it can. Look at what Arpaio does in terms of campaign money. Hell, he bought and paid for MontyPug. And I bet he paid for Thomas. And what about SCA?

WhoKnows
WhoKnows topcommenter

@Flyer9753 @valleynative  Flyer.  We both know VN thinks his "opinions" are facts, and that anyone that doesn't buy into his illogical BS is wrong.  He's unwilling to question his own opinion on ANYTHING (just like YPS.... )

Flyer9753
Flyer9753 topcommenter

@valleynative  VN - let me ask you this.


I have a BAZILLION dollars... I buy 99% of the air time and run my ads.


Are you really going to sit there and say that my influence is equal to the guy who now only has 1% of the air time???


Sure, stupid people are a part of the equation, but that does not matter.


I have more influence no matter what, due to what I can spend and the number of people I can reach. I did not use my money better, I simply have more of it.


How you cannot see this is amazing... and very sad

Flyer9753
Flyer9753 topcommenter

@valleynative @Flyer9753 @CaptainAmerica  "There is no concept that people should only have influence equally with others."


I don't think I have EVER read a more moronic statement.


Especially when money buys influence

WhoKnows
WhoKnows topcommenter

@valleynative @Flyer9753 @CaptainAmerica  

Says VN, with his tiny megaphone!


Money is NOT free speech.  The rich have NO MORE a right to speak than the poor....  I bet you also think corporations are people.....

valleynative
valleynative topcommenter

@fishingblues @valleynative@Flyer9753@CaptainAmerica Money can't buy votes.  It can only buy air time.

Air time only influences the votes of stupid people.

 

Education and a better election system would prevent the person whose name is said on TV most often from having the advantage he has today.

fishingblues
fishingblues topcommenter

@valleynative @Flyer9753 @CaptainAmerica  


VN, I'm going to have to side with the Fly on this one.  You are speaking philosophically and philosophically you are correct.  The  Fly is speaking practically and he/she/it has a good point.


Our election system is a freaking mess and money is the messy ingredient.  

valleynative
valleynative topcommenter

@DonkeyHotay @valleynative 

So now we add "instant run-off election system" to the list of concepts you don't understand.

That wouldn't be bad, if you hadn't stupidly decided that it's somehow unAmerican.  It's being used in many parts of the country, already.

DonkeyHotay
DonkeyHotay topcommenter

@valleynative "I am for what America stands for."


LOL! ... except when you're against it.


"The best we could do would be to replace our election system with an "instant run-off" system." 

-- ValleyNative

Flyer9753
Flyer9753 topcommenter

@valleynative @Flyer9753 @CaptainAmerica  I am not misunderstanding anything. The courts have ruled that limiting speech for equality is not an infringement on free speech, since no one is being prevented from speaking.


I can make you carry weights on your legs in a contest where the rules are everyone is EQUAL and that is the basic tenant of this country.


You have your speech, you can say whatever you want at the same volume as everyone else.


Simply because you have more money, does not mean you can buy more speech, which is exactly what is happening.


Done discussing since clearly you are not behind america, but behind money.


valleynative
valleynative topcommenter

@Flyer9753 @valleynative@CaptainAmerica 

No.  You're misunderstanding what "equality" means.  People have equal value and equal rights and equal opportunities.  If I use those rights and opportunities to become more powerful than the next guy, the government doesn't get to knock me down so that we're "equal" again.

They can't make me carry weights strapped to my legs because I'm stronger than some other guy, and they can't restrict how much I spend on my campaign because I have more money than the other guy.

 

Flyer9753
Flyer9753 topcommenter

@valleynative @Flyer9753 @CaptainAmerica  Sure it is.


What's even more to the basis of this country, equality


You still have your speech, you just have it at an equal volume with everyone else. You can still say whatever you want. That's freedom. 


No ones speech is being taken away, it's simply a level volume for everyone.


There is no such thing as 'free volume' in this country

CaptainAmerica
CaptainAmerica

@Flyer9753 @valleynative  That is a horrible idea. You are talking about state controlled elections and the elimination of free speech. If you think the current system is bad (and I don't necessarily disagree), the ramifications of what you have proposed above would not work in the favor of voters.

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