Arizona's Anti-Panhandling Bill Vetoed by Governor Jan Brewer

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Governor Jan Brewer has vetoed a bill that would have outlawed "aggressive solicitation," also known as panhandling.

Arizona's old anti-begging statute was found unconstitutional in federal court last fall, thanks to a lawsuit filed by the American Civil Liberties Union.

See also:
-John Kavanagh Could Teach Panhandlers a Few Tricks
-Arizona's Anti-Begging Law Is Unconstitutional, Federal Judge Rules

The ACLU filed the lawsuit after 135 arrests in one year for "loitering to beg," including the arrest of a disabled 4-foot-8, 77-year-old woman asking an undercover cop for $1.25 to cover a bus fare.

Lawyers argued that the law, which stated that "[a] person commits loitering if such person intentionally [i]s present in a public place to beg, unless specifically authorized by law," was a First Amendment violation. The Attorney General's office conceded the point.

Therefore, Republican Representative John Kavanagh and other lawmakers went at replacing the anti-begging statute this legislative session. The bill, House Bill 2024, would have outlawed soliciting money within 15 feet of an ATM, 10 feet of a bus stop, or soliciting money at all using any of the "aggressive" techniques outlined, like being "reasonably likely to intimidate the person being solicited into responding affirmatively to the solicitation."

But Brewer vetoed the new proposal.

According to the ACLU, other laws similar to the unconstitutional state law have been struck down by state and federal courts, including a Phoenix city ordinance.

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Trisha Hicks
Trisha Hicks

My dad used to always offer these people jobs and housing to get them on their feet 99% had an excuse so I don't know what think of them except I don't ever give them money. And I certainly am not buying them food when I can barely feed myself. My family comes first. Sorry I live by experience and I've homed a lot of homeless to the extent of losing my daughter and almost my son I'm done giving free rides.

Alfredo Sosa
Alfredo Sosa

Some of them are there, cuz of laziness.. I know ppl that do that by choice.. Even if they have jobs, they keep going out there. This ppl are giving food, blankets, hygiene, it seemes to be a tax free business now...

Todd Hall
Todd Hall

SO DAMN SICK of these losers begging for $$$ , get a fukn job

Michael Swann
Michael Swann

good to see poverty hasnt been made illegal yet

Chris Harsted
Chris Harsted

Fuckin go stand at home depot (done that too)

Chris Harsted
Chris Harsted

90 percent of pan handlers are doing so support there addiction i know this because have lived the pan handling life

Mikey Lee
Mikey Lee

You're absolutely right brother. They are almost all bullshit fakes

Mikey Lee
Mikey Lee

Unconstitutional? So some place in the U.S. Constitution is clearly states you have the right to beg and panhandle and accept money that you don't pay taxes on while at some points also making people you approach very uncomfortable? Fuck that, get a goddamn job and pay your own way cause some of us taxpayers are tired of paying for you and 95% of you are drug users and completely full of shit. Rant over

Eugene A D Foster
Eugene A D Foster

I've done the same as you Alejandro Estrada seriously to help them out they dont want to work

Alejandro Estrada
Alejandro Estrada

seriously im thinking more than half if these homeless WANNA BE HOMELESS... ONCE I ASK 2 HOMELESS MEN TO WORK FOR ME 10 BUCKS AN HOUR ..GUESS WHAT??? THEY LAUGHED " WE MAKE MORE THAN THAT AN HOUR ON THE STREETS "!! THATS BULL!! IS A BUSINESS HERe IN PHX FUCK THEM

Jim Barrett
Jim Barrett

This going to make them think they have the right to panhandle at malls, which is private property.

Jason Caflin
Jason Caflin

love the way the "smart" guy comes with guns loaded? dude you're shooting blanks......

Francisco Cortez
Francisco Cortez

They should get vans and pick up all these panhandlers and drop them off at the nearest home improvement store so they can stand next to the Mexicans. The Mexicans will take any job at any pay instead of taking the easy route "Panhandling".

Jason Caflin
Jason Caflin

i don't expect too many to understand the actual intention of my posts, after all this is Arizona. it's quite obvious that you have missed my point Mr. McNichol. I'm no Bible thumper.

Jason Caflin
Jason Caflin

i wasn't preaching. just pointing out hypocrisy. most people that support this type of bullshit law are self described Christians. I am trying to make them understand how full of shit they are, for doesn't the Bible say, "Lest in drinking they forget what has been decreed, and violate the rights of any who are in need. Give strong drink to anyone who is perishing, and wine to the embittered; When they drink, they will forget their misery, and think no more of their troubles. Open your mouth in behalf of the mute, and for the rights of the destitute; Open your mouth, judge justly, defend the needy and the poor!

Patricia Cuestas-James
Patricia Cuestas-James

I was a single mom struggling to make it and if a pan handler ever asked for money because he was hungry, I went and bought him something to eat. I was brought up to never think you are better than the next guy and everyone has their struggles in life. I remember my mother would feed homeless folks at our dinner table when we were kids and that is something beautiful that she passed on to me and I to my children. My kids knew that we struggled to survive but what made them grateful was when I would take them to soup kitchens to help feed the poor/homeless and they realized that we were actually blessed for the little that we did have. Now I thank God I taught my children the same. They are hard workers as adults and would give the shirt of their back for a needy person and they do. Majority of these homeless folks are struggling with alcoholism, drugs, mental illness and many are Vietnam vets that never got the medical attention they so deserved. If given the chance majority would go and work, they just need a place to sleep, hot showers, meals and job training to help get them back into society once again. This country just has all their priorities so screwed up and it's sad.

Jason Caflin
Jason Caflin

understood, so your solution is to do what? make the police move them? don't the police have criminals to pursue? real type criminals? i thought you guys were all worried about how your tax dollars are spent. That's all I hear from Hannity parrots at work.

Jason Caflin
Jason Caflin

My posts are NOT attacking everyone, just self righteous pricks! But if the BOOT FITS, strap that mutha fuh on and wear it!!

Jason Caflin
Jason Caflin

it's not a new problem in Phoenix. if you don't wanna give the dude at the freeway exit a dollar, then don't. you're not the one standing in 120 degree weather, you are inside your A/C cooled car.

Bill McNichols
Bill McNichols

quote your bible to those who believe, it has as much meaning to me as used gum on the sidewalk

Bill McNichols
Bill McNichols

didn't you just say that the people standing outside are working?

Lindsey Greer
Lindsey Greer

If you have the time and energy to stand outside in the AZ heat, walking back and forth along traffic intersections all day begging, then you are fully capable of earning your own money. We have a countless number of day labor and temporary staffing locations in Phoenix. I work hard for my money. Why can't anyone else?

Antonio Maldonado
Antonio Maldonado

Angry little elf, aren't you? You'll get to that point where you will get fed up with being hassled day in and day out for a buck.

Jason Caflin
Jason Caflin

Yeah, I quoted the Bible. How many of you just saw that but didn't read the actual Bible passage. Most I presume.

Jason Caflin
Jason Caflin

Lack of substance, just talking trash, calling me the same thing i called you. nothing here thought provoking. LOSER!!

Jason Caflin
Jason Caflin

again, lack of substance. SAY SOMETHING WORTHY!! Bet you can't!!

Jason Caflin
Jason Caflin

not everyone, just self righteous pricks. I'm just demonstrating that the supposed Christian "right" is full of shit!! let's see you say something with substance this time Alex, so far your post lacks anything thought provoking. I doubt that you can.

Jason Caflin
Jason Caflin

PROVERBS 31:5-95 lest they drink and forget what has been decreed and pervert the rights of all the afflicted. 6 Give strong drink to the one who is perishing, and wine to those in bitter distress;[a] 7 let them drink and forget their poverty and remember their misery no more. 8 Open your mouth for the mute, for the rights of all who are destitute.[b] 9 Open your mouth, judge righteously, defend the rights of the poor and needy.

Jason Caflin
Jason Caflin

that's okay, wouldn't expect you self righteous assholes to think about this too hard anyway. everybody wants a quick fix. there is no quick fix, it's a problem that is inherent in the system.

Jason Caflin
Jason Caflin

i don't like it either, but that's what happens in a broken system. fix the problem not the symptom asshole.

Nathan Schneider
Nathan Schneider

Because we don't like to continually be asked for money by complete strangers? Gtfo.

Jason Caflin
Jason Caflin

typical ugly arizona responses. self righteous assholes.

Jason Caflin
Jason Caflin

it's rampant here in PHX too. So what? You can fix the system, but you can't fix it by passing a stupid law. and also, you can't fix stupid.

Bill McNichols
Bill McNichols

It would be better if there were more available social services to help these people, but at least the governor is not making it harder to be poor.

Celia Pinupgirl
Celia Pinupgirl

It is just getting out of hand. I don't want to see them all over the place. Most of them are capable of standing there in the heat. There has to be something they can do to help them. Without them being able to get so out of hand. I yell at anybody approaching me when i have my kids. DO NOT APPROACH A WOMAN WITH KIDS!!!!!! That should be a given, but then noone is in their right mind. Mentally sick, drunk or on drugs. And if you are none of the above, you are perfectly capable.

Antonio Maldonado
Antonio Maldonado

It's all good now, but just wait for the influx of beggars everytime you walk into a grocery store or at a stop light. Rampant here in albuquerque.

DonkeyHotay
DonkeyHotay topcommenter

Once again the ELECTED Arizona Legislature proves that The Desert Racist Wasteland is truly The Hate State.



DonkeyHotay
DonkeyHotay topcommenter

"aggressive solicitation," ... also known as Insatiable Government Tax Pigs

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