Joe Arpaio, Jerry Sheridan Spanked by Judge G. Murray Snow Over Melendres Remarks

During Monday's hearing, Snow warned that he was willing to use the power of the court to force compliance if need be.

"I hope today will prove a valuable correction that allows me to enforce this order," Snow stated.

But he advised Arpaio, Sheridan and Casey that today's hearing had a specific purpose beyond taking them to task.

"It is to create a record," he said, "that you've been advised what is acceptable and what is unacceptable."

Both sides seemed to accept Snow's concept of a corrective letter. But Casey told the judge that he could not "at first blush" agree to Sheridan and Arpaio signing it until he had discussed the idea further with them.

Other issues addressed Monday involved the ACLU's problems with Arpaio's choice for the court-instituted position of "community liaison," with the locations and timings of community meetings and with the community advisory board he had ordered to be created.

Snow asked Casey if the sheriff, who is appealing Snow's decision in the case, was still opposed to participating in this outreach to the Latino community.

Casey indicated that the sheriff remained opposed to the MCSO's involvement in the effort.

The judge then suggested amending his October order to allow Warshaw to take over the duties of the community liaison, which are, in part, to organize and be present at the community meetings.

Similarly, the community advisory board, when chosen, could report to the monitor.

Snow said he would submit a revised order to both parties, allowing them to object.

Arpaio sat frowning throughout the hearing, and never addressed the judge.

Outside the Sandra Day O'Connor U.S. Courthouse, Arpaio said little to the press, just that the matter was under appeal. He then disappeared back into the courthouse, leaving Tom Liddy of the Maricopa County Attorney's Office to field questions.

Liddy was asked if he felt that Snow's order in Melendres was out of line and if Arpaio would comply.

"Yes, we feel that the order is out of line, therefore we have appealed," Liddy said. "If by out of line, [you mean] we think it could be better. Two, we will comply, the sheriff will comply, as the order is written, until such time as the Court of Appeals and the Supreme Court says otherwise."

Liddy conceded that many of the statements made by Sheridan to deputies were factually incorrect and would be corrected.

He also acknowledged the "tone and tenor" of Sheridan's remarks did not make it clear that every member of the MCSO "has to respect and comply with the letter and the spirit of this court order."

Had any disciplinary action been taken against Sheridan because of his remarks? Liddy said no.

Cecillia Wang of the ACLU's immigrants Rights Project expressed satisfaction what what had just transpired.

"We are pleased with what we saw in court today," Wang told reporters. "I think it's clear that the MCSO is not going to step out of line again. If they do, the court is going to use the powers of the federal court to make sure that the law is complied with."

Concerning what the judge could do if the MCSO continues to play games, Wang said that would be up to the judge, but that the court has the power to "hold MCSO and officials in MCSO in contempt," if they do not adhere to the orders of the court.

Overall, watching Sheridan squirm a bit was worth showing up for, but it was Sheridan who was squirming, not Arpaio.

As Snow himself pointed out during the hearing, this is not the first time the MCSO has failed to comply with his orders. Nor, I dare say, will it be the last.

We are talking about Joe Arpaio here. And he doesn't take kindly to being told what to do, even by a federal judge.

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David Holliday
David Holliday

Enjoined? LOL Sounds like you copied and pasted something, I can argue with you about what law enforcement agencies REALLY do but, that will go nowhere, Robert. So.....I'll ask again. What's the solution?

Robert Unferth
Robert Unferth

The Maricopa County Sheriff's Office is enjoined from holding anyone, including David or Eric, merely because they know he or she is in the US illegally. “MCSO and all of its officers are hereby enjoined from detaining any person based only on knowledge or reasonable belief, without more, that the person is unlawfully present within the United States.” So David, if MCSO can't verify your identify, they cannot legally hold you for even 5 minutes - unless they accuse you of committing a crime for which the Sheriff has jurisdiction. Which very definitely does not include anything associated with immigration. I think what David knows is wrong.

Robert Unferth
Robert Unferth

Actually, it's not Arizona taxpayers who are paying for Sheriff Arpaio's transgressions; it's just the taxpayer's of Maricopa County. That's the way it should be; the voters of Maricopa County elected Arpaio 7 times.

David Holliday
David Holliday

So, what's the solution? Sounds like you've thought about it. Wouldn't want PHX to turn into another L.A.

Jimmy Green
Jimmy Green

You're not only an idiot. You're an asshole.

Eric Marshall
Eric Marshall

Its quite clear that American Citizens rights were violated, and yet still the ignorant masses flock to defend their flaccid fossil leader joe. Its no wonder, since many are still under the impression this is over illegals being targeted. NO, this is about AMERICANS being wrongfully detained against their will, and a clear violation of the 4th Amendment. lol I wonder though, how would they feel if Obama sent the Feds out to check every white person for papers to make sure they arent Canadian illegals..

Eric Marshall
Eric Marshall

check it out racist. You just supported AMERICAN CITIZENS rights being violated. NOT illegals. smh try facts, not speculation..its a brave new world when you know them

Eric Marshall
Eric Marshall

that would require them to ask for it..in many cases, the MCSO deputies just handcuffed or zip tied people, and didnt bother to check their status for hours..one up to 4 hours, and he is a citizen! Its a clear violation of the 4th Amendment

Eric Marshall
Eric Marshall

lol Ten Bears, and you need a reality check you fascist, dictator wannabee loving buffoon! nice to know you condone Americans civil rights being violated though, while you call others "commies" pft.

David Holliday
David Holliday

All I can say is that I know if the police can't verify MY identity, I GO TO JAIL. That seems racist against me.

Elba Villa
Elba Villa

If only Joe could stop giving free jail passes to rapists, murders, drug dealers, child abusers...I don't care about people working in local restaurants washing dishes

Chuck Graf
Chuck Graf

First of all, Ten, I'm not Mexican, nor am I an anti American communist. I'm a veteran, same as you, and it's my opinion that you can't just tell if someone is here illegally just by looking at them. I get it that they will check you out when being pulled over. That's a given. The point is, MCSO was pulling folks over and harassing them purely because they were Hispanic, and then looking for anything they could to arrest and/or deport them. A federal judge had ruled that the MCSO was doing this and that it must be stopped. So before you get your underwear all in a bunch, know what you are talking about before you make a stupid statement and verbally attack someone.

shadeaux
shadeaux

So,....the coward of the county again let his subordinate take responsibility for the cowards behavior?


What a man?

Nathan Schneider
Nathan Schneider

No, but there is no reason you cannot perform an investigation while somebody is incarcerated for engaging in illegal behavior. Law enforcement simply cannot profile.

Ten Bears
Ten Bears

You need a reality check u anti-american communist

Ten Bears
Ten Bears

yes u can they do it everytime you get pulled over and they run a check on you! If they arent checking your legality esp if u look illegal or terrorists are gonna fuck u mexicans up!

Chuck Graf
Chuck Graf

What a stupid statement Jimmy Green. Not all Hispanic people are here illegally. You can't just randomly target people and demand they prove they reside here legally.

Jimmy Green
Jimmy Green

So. I guess the judge wants joe to give illegal criminal wetbacks a pass. Smh.

MaskedMagician1967
MaskedMagician1967 topcommenter

"No man is above the law and no man is below it: Nor do we ask any man's permission when we ask him to obey it."--President Theodore Roosevelt

Perhaps the Fetid Fossil of MCSO should abide by this...

DNichols
DNichols

Arpaio answers to no mear, measly Judge.

The only way to force "Joe's Law" to comply with the "Law of the Land" is RECIEVRSHIP of the M.C.S.O. and completely replaced M.C.S.O. management period.

All else is an effort in futility.

Vizzini
Vizzini

 "We are talking about Joe Arpaio here. And he doesn't take kindly to being told what to do, even by a federal judge."

How about a night in jail for contempt of court? Give them time to think about whether or not Snow is serious about his ruling.

Jukes
Jukes

What a concept.  Requiring our lawmen to respect the law.  I especially love how Sheridan thinks he's the one who gets to interpret the Constitution.  Since when is that in HIS job description?

Gary L Knowthyself Jones
Gary L Knowthyself Jones

Seventeen million dollars in legal fees for racial profiling at the expense of Arizona taxpayers and still at it, eh. Sheriff Joe your contempt for the law and radical reich-wing extremist fanaticism knows no bounds. Dig deep Arizona you're paying for every word that your foolish Sheriff utters.

Cozz
Cozz topcommenter

So in other words, fuck off, we're just as racist as ever. Nothing has changed.


"Snow asked Casey if the sheriff, who is appealing Snow's decision in the case, was still opposed to participating in this outreach to the Latino community.

Casey indicated that the sheriff remained opposed to the MCSO's involvement in the effort"

Cozz
Cozz topcommenter

No shit Sheridan, ya think you POS.....


"In trying to explain himself, Sheridan said he had been frustrated with how the MCSO was perceived despite his best efforts.

He claimed that during one meeting in a separate lawsuit brought by the U.S. Department of Justice, the "lead attorney" for the DOJ "said we were ignorant and we were racist."

Cozz
Cozz topcommenter

Oh really, this in itself is a major problem that needs to be desperately dealt with first.

 "We're not trying to put you out of business," Snow said to Sheridan and Arpaio. "We're trying to keep you in line with the [U.S. Constitution]."

Cozz
Cozz topcommenter

Oh, and by the way, all you MCSO pricks, heel, like a good dogs.

Cozz
Cozz topcommenter

Just the title makes my heart good.

robert_graham
robert_graham

If Arpaio can be criticized over a comment that may or may have not been said, the same must happen to the New Times for all their appalling comments and Photoshopped pictures too. You can't have it just one way.

eric.nelson745
eric.nelson745 topcommenter

Perhaps all of those lawyers who Sheridan claims told him that Judge Snow's orders to MCSO violate the Constitution should appear before his honor and provide legal analysis as to why that is so.

MaskedMagician1967
MaskedMagician1967 topcommenter

Does anyone recall what happened the last time a judge tried to take the Fetid Fossil to task?


I do...Judge Donahoe was slammed with three felony charges and sued in a bullshit RICO lawsuit (which Judge Snow presided over)... all this because he tried to do his job and get Arpaio to bring inmates to court on time...Donahoe also slapped Adam Stoddard with an apology order and a $10,000 contempt penalty on Deputy Chief Dave Trombi for failing to bring inmates to court on time...


I also have confirmation from Lisa Aubuchon herself that she felt Donahoe was guilty (as was all the victims of the Maricopa County War)...


If memory serves Donahoe scored a million dollar settlement from Maricopa County as a result (that whole episode cost us a cool $28M+)...

car_del99
car_del99

@robert_graham  You seem to know a lot about Constitutional Law , I bet you are a federal Judge but clean toilets as a HOBBY , Right ?

car_del99
car_del99

@robert_graham  You seem to know a lot about Constitutional Law , I bet you are a federal Judge but clean toilets as a HOBBY , Right ?

car_del99
car_del99

@robert_graham  You seem to know a lot about Constitutional laws , I bet you are a Federal Judge , but you clean toilets as a HOBBY . right ?

azweasel
azweasel

And if my aunt had nuts, she would ne my uncle. What's your point sport.

MaskedMagician1967
MaskedMagician1967 topcommenter

Robert, read the quote I posted by TR and get back to me...you sad little fool...

TommyCollins
TommyCollins topcommenter

@robert_graham The video, provided by MCSO, clearly shows that the comment was said and that the elderly shurf agreed with everything Sheridan had just said. Twit.

WhoKnows
WhoKnows topcommenter

@eric.nelson745  They ate their legal briefs, as well as their crayons, and therefore couldn't show in court....

TommyCollins
TommyCollins topcommenter

@MaskedMagician1967 It's not likely they can touch Judge Snow. The EEO isn't running the strength of machine he once did. His political strength is flaccid, at best, and he can't even give away his endorsements anymore, not that anyone wants them anyway. The whole judicial system is watching to be sure the Donahoe episode is NOT repeated.

bobunf
bobunf

@car_del99 @eric.nelson745  Can't blame the lawyers.  I can hear them now, "If people do stupid stuff and want to pay me for it; who am I to object?"

bobunf
bobunf

@TommyCollins @eric.nelson745  No, they were not.  Those lawyers were paid by Maricopa County taxpayers, who richly deserve the huge financial losses Arpaio has imposed, and continues to impose, on them

Where is the Board of Supervisors, who are authorized these payments?  

They could, and should, stop the bleeding of our money; stop defending pure racism, and 

stop the appeal

MaskedMagician1967
MaskedMagician1967 topcommenter

Bob, as much as it pains me to say this, the spiteful old man is entitled to a lawyer under the 6th Amendment.

The Board, however, never approved the expense of an appeal. Big difference.

MaskedMagician1967
MaskedMagician1967 topcommenter

WK, the BOS never approved the expense of an appeal in Melendres. According to Steve Chucri, my supervisor.

WhoKnows
WhoKnows topcommenter

@bobunf @TommyCollins @eric.nelson745  


Unless I missed it, the BOS never approved a dime of funding for the Joker's Appeal...  So as has happened before, MCSO is ILLEGALLY spending taxpayer money.  What doesn't MCSO understand about the term "illegal"?

TommyCollins
TommyCollins topcommenter

@MaskedMagician1967 @TommyCollins I'm fairly certain Judge Snow and his peers are equally concerned. I will also assume that retired Judge Donahoe has been in touch and is providing counsel on this issue.

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