Arizona's Proposed $30 Million "Virtual Border Fence" Would Allow Public Monitoring

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Proposals for a border fence are nothing new in Arizona, but Republican state Senator Bob Worsley's call for a "virtual border fence" is a bit different.

Worsley explained the system in a committee hearing Monday, saying the public would be able to monitor the images collected by these devices with infrared cameras placed along the border.

Worsley's proposal for the virtual fence, Senate Bill 1106, would cost the state $30 million.

Worsley said there's nothing in his law that's about enforcement; it's just about monitoring.

He said the purpose is to "verify the claims made by [federal agencies] in terms of how secure or border really is."

Republican Senator Chester Crandell didn't really see the point.

"I'm not sure that it's a good, wise use of money to just tell the federal government, 'Haha, we can see what you're doing,'" he said.

Although Worsley said the fence wasn't about enforcement, he reiterated that anyone can see the images provided by the cameras, even officers with the Arizona Department of Public Safety or county sheriffs. (This is the same Worsley who beat SB 1070 champion Russell Pearce in a Republican primary a couple of years ago.)

Crandell also opined that Arizona's congressional delegation should be getting this done on the federal level, instead of Arizona having to fork over the money for it.

The federal government tried to make a similar virtual fence a few years ago, and it turned into a costly joke. About 53 miles of coverage was built at a cost of $1 billion. Worsley told the panel that he got the $30 million figure as a quote from a Utah company, and he's seeking other quotes on the system as well.

Although this particular committee narrowly approved Worsley's proposal, it still has several more steps to go, including a trip to the appropriations committee -- which might see a bigger problem with the spending.

Worsley plans to have one of these cameras set up at the state capitol so everyone can get a better idea of how it works. You can click here to read the entire text of his bill.

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DNichols
DNichols

On the G.O.P. up side:

These cameras might be interesting, we might be able to see Bob Worsley's fellow Republican, Leader of the Minute Men Chris Simcox patrolling the Border with his BFF/Border Date  Bill Montgomery, that just granted Simcox  "Amnesty" /a Posh Plea Deal for sticking his fingers in his own Childs Vagina?!

Perhaps they will even have some little Children with them on thier Border Date.

Steve Kalan
Steve Kalan

Arizona should send all it's illegal immigrants to California dreaming

DNichols
DNichols

We have infra red cameras at many major intersections, all over freeways, every 20 sqaure feet in Dept. Stores like Walmart ect.

These Thermal Dynamic Cameras see through anything including walls, steel car bodies, your clothing ect.

They are so strong a Walmart Security person said: "they can't legally tell us the images that they see in the Store, however that they can see your foot print on the concrete a half hour after you walked across it!"

There are hundreds of polythecnic drone aircrafts, that work toghether with Police Helicopters warantlessly watching "We the People" right inside the so called "Privacy of our American Homes" with unconstitutional infra red camera's.

The Sick Peeping Perverted Government Cowards in these spying programs over our American Homes would have been lined up in front of a firing squad by our Founding Fathers.

This Thermal Spying Crap is already out of control!

Francisco Cortez
Francisco Cortez

Jan Brewer, Rusell Pearce, Tom Horne, and Arpaio can be the first to be in this fence.

Francisco Cortez
Francisco Cortez

NO! Hire more border agents instead. We need more jobs for human beings, not machines/computers.

shadeaux14
shadeaux14

From some of the comments below, it seems to me that there are people who have never read George Orwell's "futuristic" novel "1984" *

Think it can't come true? Some of the comments reflect the mentality necessary for it to start.


Then there's Fox "News"




*anybody volunteer to read it to Jaffy?

Sean Ormes
Sean Ormes

and if u say yes to this suk my wyte rooster

Benne Rex
Benne Rex

I think this is clearly a Federal Issue and shouldn't be shouldered by the state(s). (unless they're talking about a border fence between Arizona and California - in which case I totally support it - - nah!)

Paula Russell
Paula Russell

good answer mr. russell! and you spell your name right.. double "l" double "s" ; )

Marty Ercoline
Marty Ercoline

let the militia watch the border....they are the most efficient and vigilant

Joseph Manna
Joseph Manna

Sure, when the budget is balanced, graduation rates improve and property taxes are lowered.

JM Ferguson
JM Ferguson

No its just a way to funnel money to pay back political donors.

John Ryden
John Ryden

like the Berlin Wall or the Great Wall of China or Fort Apache? Nonsense!

Corwin McCurdy
Corwin McCurdy

No more money for public schools. No more public monitoring. To the people saying it's the feds job, they're not doing it, so we need to.

DonkeyHotay
DonkeyHotay topcommenter

I'll install this system for $29 million ...


... and sub it out to Flyer for $25 million.


hth

glyphhunter
glyphhunter

I can't cite any sources, but I remember reading that Boeing spent a billion dollars of our money on developing a virtual fence in the Arivaca area without much success.

Penny Tompkins Cook
Penny Tompkins Cook

No one even completely this contract! Where's the fence; where's the money???

Kevin Redlich
Kevin Redlich

No fucking way. First, it is the federal government's job to "protect and secure" the border. And second, to repeat what others said, SCHOOLS!!!

Greg Guerrero
Greg Guerrero

When your country is slanging OG kush who wants that mex dirt leaking thru

Annie Eldon
Annie Eldon

No no no! So stupid. People will come over the border no matter what we do, so let's spend it on something useful. Yeah, schools, shade or a better public transportation system for a start...

Nicole Goard
Nicole Goard

I was going to say schools as well but Claudia beat me to it.

Danny Gonzales
Danny Gonzales

Bs. Waste money getting our money.and is not suppose to be the land of the free?

Kathryn Lia
Kathryn Lia

sweet jesus ,i was reading the bill, and its working copy hurts my head, (esp the part about thinking about using inmates to build and run the fence).But what about the outrage about the fence being 20 miles from the border? and on public and private land?

Renae Lucero
Renae Lucero

They build tunnels all the time, so no, Arizona needs to spend that 30 million on making the state look better

Don Blank
Don Blank

Oh good, then the tea wacko's can rush in with their AR-15's and kill some women and children

Bryce Wilson
Bryce Wilson

Only if they post the some of the action like on M C S O arrest log and stuff.

LoveItOrLeaveIt2
LoveItOrLeaveIt2

@DNichols    Let's see some creditable sources cited to back up your "facts", otherwise they are nothing more than made up propaganda against the government and this Administration.

DonkeyHotay
DonkeyHotay topcommenter

@DNichols  


         *** Resistence is Futile ... You will be Assimilated ***

gtnoriega554
gtnoriega554

If these folks hate Mexicans so much, why do they choose to live in Arizona?

gtnoriega554
gtnoriega554

The machines will be breaking down and it will be great fun shooting at them as well.  Their constant repair and maintenance should create some jobs.

Flyer9753
Flyer9753 topcommenter

@shadeaux14  Just for the record - I have read '1984' and do agree with what Orwell was saying - I am in my comments below not at all talking about that type of surveillance state. I do understand the concerns and agree with them, but I also understand the need for a balance.


Used properly, camera surveillance in public areas can only benefit the populace and the individual.

DNichols
DNichols

@Donky

Yeah, asking the Peeping Government piece of Trash Cowards in these Peeping Programs to come to the front door of my American home hasn't worked in 11 years.

We just call the wasted Billions on these worthless peeping bastards our new National Deficit.

Our fallen Heroes died to protect what?  Freedom?!

Guess we should all just go to ASU Polytechnic's Campus enter the U.A.V., and Thermal Dynamic classes then become high paid perverted Government Peeping Cowards.

To: Liberty

squash
squash

@DonkeyHotay @DNichols Perhaps you should wrap your house in tinfoil

squash
squash

@Flyer9753  "I am in my comments below not at all talking about that type of surveillance state"

That's the problem though. Allowing surveillance of public spaces is a slippery slope. Surveillance states like that of what Orwell spoke of start off small and gradually get larger and larger until they are out of control. We don't need to get the ball rolling on an Orwellian-type dystopian surveillance state. Situations of that type need to be prevented before they can even start. Orwell is most assuredly turning in his grave over the current state of surveillance in the world and the road it's headed down.

Flyer9753
Flyer9753 topcommenter

@shadeaux14 @squash  In your OPINIONS



You both know what they say about opinions right? In Squashs case we have proof its true in prior comments.

shadeaux14
shadeaux14

@squash  

Amen squash. It's a door that we are not advanced enough as a species to open.

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