MCSO Holding Latest "Community Meeting" at Edge of Civilization

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To comply with court orders in the Melendres v. Arpaio civil rights case, the Maricopa County Sheriff's Office is holding another "community meeting" on Wednesday.

The meeting will be conveniently located at an MCSO substation out in the woods.

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"The purpose of these meetings is to answer, when possible, public questions or concerns about the Sheriff's Office's involvement in a recently completed countywide DUI task force," an MCSO press release says. "English and Spanish-speaking Sheriff's personnel will be present and available to answer questions from the public."

Filings submitted by MCSO last month indicate that the MCSO Lake Patrol division, located out near the Salt River tubing area northeast of all Phoenix civilization, was in charge of the agency's participation in the DUI task force -- hence the location.

U.S. District Judge G. Murray Snow's order states, "The MCSO shall hold a community outreach meeting no more than 30 days after any Significant Operations or Patrols in the affected District(s)."

Despite the "countywide" operation, the only community meeting is scheduled for 10 a.m. tomorrow at the lakes district, at 7307 North Bush Highway.


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If you have the urge to read MCSO's court filing related to this operation, you can read it below:

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DNichols
DNichols

To hold any type of public meeting at the Salt river in the middle of winter is a farce, unless a wild horse happens to graze by?!

Arpaio is just trying to make a fool out of  Judge Snow, and his Order period.

john043012
john043012 topcommenter

The sheriff is being forced to hold these meetings by Snow right, so its only logical that Snow knows ahead of time where they are to be held, right  . If any of you illegal immigrants have an issue as to where these meeting are being held your dissatisfaction and anger should be directed towards Snow , right.

shadeaux14
shadeaux14

ACA Lisa Aubachon, ACA Rachael Alexander, CA Andrew Thomas, Capt. Joel Fox, Capt Larry Black, David Henderschot.

What do all these people have in common except for the fact that they have been PROVEN to have broken the law and violated the constitutional rights of countless Arizonans and have been forced from their jobs for their shameful behavior?


JOE ARPAIO.

Three of his "Command Staff" and the Maricopa County Attorney and 2 Assistant county attorneys all shamed by their own behavior which went on for years.................RIGHT UNDER ARPAIO'S NOSE .

And Joe "Can't Recall" any of their actions????????


And what do the racist lemmings do? the morons re-elect him.



TommyCollins
TommyCollins topcommenter

Wednesday morning at 10.


Yep, that will bring out the interested parties.


The old man is making a mockery....

WhoKnows
WhoKnows topcommenter

I wonder if YPS will get to the meeting early to train the dancing bears!

robert_graham
robert_graham

Do other police and sheriffs offices have to hold community meetings everytime they conduct DUI sweeps? Of course not, so neither should Joe. Enough is enough!

john043012
john043012 topcommenter

@DNichols And its assholes like you that are sick and tired about it and are not going to take it anymore right .You should just get up and ride your burro right into Snows courtroom and demand satisfaction ,that should do it

azweasel
azweasel

Wrong numb nuts. Just his way of thumbing his old wc fields nose at judge snow.

danzigsdaddy
danzigsdaddy topcommenter

@john043012 actually Snow doesnt know ahead of time where they are going to be held or even if they are going to be held. the judge just said that Joe has to have them after significant operations. if Joe doesnt hold them............then the judge is informed and will take action. our dissatisfaction with Judge Snow should be over his not making a clearer outline of his intentions. one would assume that if the community meetings are to repair relations after a significant operation............the meetings would be held in that area. Judge Snow was not clear on that and Joe is taking advantage of that. it is an intentional act of defiance, but it is being made using a loophole in the Judge not being more precise in his orders. but since it is such an obvious act of defiance because of the judge not being clear enough............expect Joe and his legal team to be called in for a redefining of those rules. Joe found a loophole and used it, i dont think the judge can punish him for it (maybe he can), but he will not be giving Joe another opportunity to flaunt his defiance. i will give Joe credit for using the loophole to his advantage, but i am not going to fool myself into thinking it was anything other than an intentional thumb to the nose to the court

TommyCollins
TommyCollins topcommenter

@john043012


John, I guess Mr. Hendley was typing too quickly for you to keep up. If you read the article you will see the community meeting is to discuss the DUI Task Force enforcement effort by MCSO. Nothing about illegal immigrants, actually.

DNichols
DNichols

@ J-John:

Actually Arpaio/the M.C.S.O. has been Ordered to hold Community Outreach Meetings because of his RACISM towards Hispanic People Period you Dip Shit.

THE_JUDGE
THE_JUDGE

@robert_grahamupdating your little boy websites ? did you collect more images at the skatepark ? sick ass child porn..............you are so fucking foul.

MaskedMagician1967
MaskedMagician1967 topcommenter

Robert, you DO know that at least two Republican Presidents granted amnesty right?

Former GOA Ulysses S. Grant signed the Amnesty Act of 1872. It forgave the Confederates for the Civil War. Grant was a Republican.

President Ronald Reagan signed the Immigration Reform and Control Act on November 6, 1986. It granted amnesty for 3 million illegals living in the United States prior to January 1, 1982. Reagan was a Republican.

azlefty
azlefty

@robert_graham You are so funny you whine about the  libs when when the illegal problem is created and advanced by the Neo-Conservatives like those who run Denny's Car washes, AKA friends of Joe!

WhoKnows
WhoKnows topcommenter

@robert_graham Oh!  That's nasty!  Joe screwing a goat while Babau screws his illegal boyfriend!  Is that why Babau's boyfriend has a target around his asshole in the video?

TommyCollins
TommyCollins topcommenter

@robert_graham


Actually, yes. There are a number of large police agencies (real police departments) that are under federal monitoring and have to submit reports on their enforcement actions. Read the biography of the court appointed monitor for MCSO.

teknik
teknik

@robert_graham those other places haven't been found to be violating peoples constitutional rights, but being a self proclaimed "constitutional conservative" you don't actually realize your hero wipes his ass with it.


perhaps it's jho's ass stains on said document that draws you to it?

danzigsdaddy
danzigsdaddy topcommenter

@robert_graham are other sheriffs and other agencies being told to because they have been found to be racially profiling by a court of law? of course not, but Joe is, and yes even the judge felt enough is enough..........................and thats why Joe HAS to hold those meetings.

WhoKnows
WhoKnows topcommenter

@robert_graham Uh, you do have the mental skills to understand that the MCSO meetings are COURT ORDERED, don't you?  Or do I give you too much credit?

john043012
john043012 topcommenter

@danzigsdaddy man are you F"N out of your mind where in hell are you getting your facts from ? How the hell do you know what Snow knows before ,during and after ? The sheriff just captured an illegal immigrant felon at chili's and I suppose you think Snow was not informed right

john043012
john043012 topcommenter

@TommyCollins that's right however the illegal immigrants who post here seem to think any meetings M.C.S.O conducts should only be to apologize to Hispanics and their illegal brethren for enforcing laws the majority of Arizonians voted for.

john043012
john043012 topcommenter

@DNichols Well smart ass who ordered those outreach meetings ? who is it that must be  be informed of all M.C.S.O. actions before hand ? who is the liaison who reports the movements ? A few days ago they where your champions. Don't blame the sheriff he doesn't believe in this crap anyways.

danzigsdaddy
danzigsdaddy topcommenter

@john043012 as for your comment of me seeming to be the voice of reason...............thats what i am trying to be. as i said, i am not going to make up stuff in my mind that Joe holding a community meeting in the middle of nowhere is violating the order. i read that order and found that Joe is doing what it said. Joe is famous for trying to sneak one by and that judge left him the perfect opportunity to do just that. if the judge wanted Joe to repair relations in the community he just pulled an operation in.................the judge should have made that clear, but he didnt. i want to stop the shenannigans that happen on both sides of the argument, but i am also going to be fair and honest when i do look at it. Joe has messed up many times, but this is not one of them. i am not going to fault him for following the letter of the law, but i am going to say that he knew full well what was intended. (unfortunately for my side, what was intended was not worded to express that intention)

danzigsdaddy
danzigsdaddy topcommenter

@john043012 i see it differently. i used to support Arpaio and there are still some things that i like about him, but he has made immigration his personal mission at the expense of other investigations or crimes. his way of trying to stem the flow of illegal immigrants is one sided and therefore ineffective. if he wants to go after illegal immigrants..............so be it, but that task force should not be taking away the resources being used to stop other crimes or their investigations (I.E: the El Mirage debacle). i also feel that if Joe wants to stop illegal immigration, one of the major steps to doing that would be to arrest the people hiring them. some people say that that is a hard case to win, but Joe isnt the one making the cases, Montgomery is. Joe should be making the arrests and letting Montgomery make or break those cases. if you and i went out for a beer and we got pulled over and there were drugs in the car...we both get arrested because of the presence of those drugs. establishing guilt or innosence comes in the courtroom.. the same should apply with the illegal immigration scenario. if there are illegals there, the employer should have to prove his innosense just like you and i would. i want to know why Joe is NOT giving Montgomery the opportunity to prove their guilt. i want illegal immigration stopped too,  but leaving the people who are creating a demand for them to keep coming is NOT stemming the flow. I'll be perfectly honest, in this economy if i had a chance to hire illegals and knew nothing would happen to me if i got raided........not only would it increase my bottom dolar, but i wouldnt have to give the guys who get caught their last paycheck. so after the raid, why no hire more illegals? again i would have cheap labor who wont complain, but i could keep their last checks too. just going after the workers is only giving the employers a chance to hire more. look at Uncle Sams, after the raid, they had to do it again because they found out the employer was duplicit in the whole id theft the first time around.. if Montgomery had been handed the owner for his chance to make that case, maybe there would have been less id theft going on until they found out he was still doing it

john043012
john043012 topcommenter

@danzigsdaddy On one hand you seem to be the voice of reason but on the other hand you come across as being disingenuous. As far as labeling the posters on new times as being illegal immigrants I read the same comments as you of which the majority here have issues with him (the sheriff) targeting I.D. thieves What these low common denominator idiots do not or do realize is the rag (phoenix new times) has an agenda their writers seem to only find what they think are only negative operatives being conducted by M.C.S.O. they are not being informed about the overall work that agency is doing. This paper only prints a part of the story it continually leaves out important facts as to direct the narrative towards the criminal being the victim and usually it always involves the illegal immigrant.

danzigsdaddy
danzigsdaddy topcommenter

@john043012  actually i never championed Snow or Warshaw. i said from the start that this may not play out to everyones expectations, and i said i had never heard of Warshaw until this. i said his resume looked impressive. as for me being an illegal? not even close. maybe if you dropped the attitude you might find some of what i posted above a little enlightening. theres info in there that if you werent too busy trying to impress us with how little you understand the actual ruling..............you might be able to use in your support of Joe. here i am actually defending the guys choice to hold his meeting in the middle of nowhere and giving you a reason of why what he did is NOT wrong, nor is it violating any part of the ruling, and you arent even catching it. its rare i ever agree with or back a Joe maneuver, but i am in this case, and i am doing it because the judge was fucking stupid enough to leaving a bunch of big gaping loopholes in the law for a guy who is famous for taking advantage of loopholes

john043012
john043012 topcommenter

@danzigsdaddy Like I mentioned before all you illegal immigrants who where championing Snow and Warshaw as the almighty saviors where eventually going to be disappointed I just didn't realize how soon it would be.. Anything short of not having the Mexican consulate being the judge and jury in this matter would be insufficient. .The country has laws that deal with the illegal immigrant's they include misdemeanor's and felonies of which most of those people commit, deal with it

danzigsdaddy
danzigsdaddy topcommenter

@john043012   the only reason i am even telling you that the order is full of obvious loopholes is because if there is one thing i hate more than a law officer who does shoddy police work or selective enforcement.......................its writing laws or orders  so vague that it allows for people to sidestep those laws. and in this case, piss poor wording by the court allows Joe plenty of room to translate those laws and rules to his advantage, and with a flair of humor directed at the court.

danzigsdaddy
danzigsdaddy topcommenter

@john043012 maybe if you read the ruling and what it entails, you would know that technically, Joe could hold a community outreach meeting any place he wants. the judge never said it has to be held in the community that was impacted by his operations. by remaining ignorant of what was ordered, you are missing golden opportunities to thumb your nose at those of us that oppose Arpaio. your inability to read and comprehend what Joe needs to do and what Joe CAN do are just helping those who oppose him. i am against the guy for my own reasons, but i am not going to go after him when he was smart enough to find a loophole so big you could drive a truck through it. maybe if you read up on things instead of assuming you know them, you could help Joe and your cause............until then all you are is misguided.       how F**N sad is it that a anti-Arpaio guy has to point out to you that Joe is operating within full compliance of the court order? if you really wanted to help Joe you would read the order and find the other glaringly obvious loopholes that Joe could use to his advantage (i did)

danzigsdaddy
danzigsdaddy topcommenter

@john043012  maybe you should read the ruling, i did, and thats why i am saying Joe did nothing wrong by holding his meeting in the middle of nowhere. i understand the ruling, and Joe evidently understands the ruling (thats why he is able to get away with his blatant thumb to the nose to the judge)...................you on the other hand  do not understand the ruling or have never read it, if you did, you would know that MCSO has to notify the court in a timely manner of any significant operations ...........not of community meetings. the community meetings just have to be held within a month.............it does not say where nor does it say that MCSO has to get approval or give the court notification. the judge assigned a monitor so the judge DOESNT have to be constantly checking on MCSO. if there is failure of compliance, the monitor notifies the judge. as for the illegal at chili's.................that was a employer sanction raid, that is a significant operation, yes he is or will be filled in

Solly
Solly

@john043012 @TommyCollins  The majority of Arizonans didn't vote for the unconstitutional legislation (as determined by the courts), a handful of Republicans in the state legislature voted for them.  Get it right.

john043012
john043012 topcommenter

@TommyCollins Don't be so disingenuous Collins you are an easy read just like the other's on here.

TommyCollins
TommyCollins topcommenter

@john043012


I'm just curious, John. Who are the illegal immigrants who post on this site? I've met a number of folks who post here. Name those you think might be 'illegal' and either they or I can tell you what their citizenship status it.


Why should any of us think that you are not illegal, John?

john043012
john043012 topcommenter

@shadeaux14 Well it may or may not be just 1 or 2 sentences  the laws that where found to be constitutional and are today being enforced sure as hell pisses you illegals off and that's good

shadeaux14
shadeaux14

@john043012,

"laws the majority of Arizonians voted for."

You mean the one or two sentences in these laws that were actually found to be CONSTITUTIONAL?

Saying that "Arizonans voted for them" probably means that they violated the constitutional rights of at least one group of people and 2 species of farm animals.

TommyCollins
TommyCollins topcommenter

@john043012


Um, John. Judge Snow is a gentleman, not a female, just so you know.


Also, what makes you feel good about making references to burros and such? Most of those folks I think might actually be illegal use public transportation (bus or light rail) or gets rides in cars. I have yet to see one of them on a burro. I think you  might just have a burro fetish. You would fit right in with one of the many posses.....

john043012
john043012 topcommenter

@robert_grahamcracker Wow you figured it out you will also enjoy knowing im DNichols ,WhoKnowsNothing and all the other's except you congradulations

DNichols
DNichols

@J-john:

Racism is a disease, you obviously have other serious mental issues, please seek help?

john043012
john043012 topcommenter

@DNichols One other thing why don't you stop violating your burro for a few minutes and ride it over to Snow's courtroom and personally tell her how the illegal immigrant community is upset with whats going on.

TommyCollins
TommyCollins topcommenter

@robert_graham


Not true, Amiga. WK and I were sitting and sipping a beer and reading your words of wit (as in little balls of ....) when he simply got up and walked away. He was not backed into a corner, nor did he feel the need to defend himself. You're looking into the wrong penthouse, sweetie.

MaskedMagician1967
MaskedMagician1967 topcommenter

Robert, the hateful old man should not be allowed to enforce the law.

I hear Congress is going to open a special inquiry into the spiteful old man. And I hear Holder's gonna nail the sick old man for federal abuse of power charges.

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