Federal Budget Plan Would Have Failed, if It Were Up to Arizona's Congressmen

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The U.S. House of Representatives easily approved a bipartisan budget agreement yesterday that, as advertised, would prevent a potential government shutdown for the next two years.

Despite the House voting in favor of the bill by an "overwhelming margin," if the vote were left to Arizona's nine House members, it would have failed.

Arizona Democrats Ann Kirkpatrick, Ron Barber, Ed Pastor, and Kyrsten Sinema voted for the bill. Republicans Trent Franks, David Schweikert, Paul Gosar, and Matt Salmon, as well as Democrat Raul Grijalva voted against it.

A vote of 5-4 against the bill is quite different than the collective House vote of 332-94 in favor of it.

Those same four Republicans also voted against ending the government shutdown that actually happened this fall, while Grijalva was on the other side for that one.

Perhaps if yesterday's budget deal really were up to Arizona's delegation, the vote would've gone a little differently when push came to shove. However, people don't really elect congressmen hoping they go to Washington to engage in showmanship.

Below, read comments from some of the congressmen's offices on their votes against the budget deal.

Grijalva:
"The best way to help the American people is to create jobs and get more families back into this economy, and this deal doesn't do that," Grijalva said. "I don't see enough here that helps the people I represent. This package doesn't help people looking for jobs, it doesn't help people wondering what they're supposed to do when their unemployment insurance is cut off, and it doesn't create any new opportunities for working Americans. It used the flawed Budget Control Act as its starting point, and that meant the finished product wasn't strong enough to earn my support."

The sequester portion of the Budget Control Act passed in 2011 included a reduction in payment rates to Medicare health care providers that would have expired in 2021. Last night's budget deal extends those cuts to fiscal years 2022 and 2023. It also postpones, but does not eliminate, certain scheduled cuts to future budget years' federal education and job creation funding. Other cuts will go forward on schedule.

In addition to ignoring the impending end of unemployment insurance benefits for approximately 1.3 million Americans later this month, the deal falls well short of necessarily funding levels for major programs that help Southern Arizonans, Grijalva pointed out. The graph at the right shows how far below historical funding levels this deal falls given its overall $1.012 trillion spending level for 2014 - more than half of which ($520.5 billion) will be spent on the military.
Franks:
"Unfortunately, while the proposal features a number of small steps in the right direction, the overall effect is still one of increased spending for the next two years, raising user fees, and again delaying the difficult, but necessary decisions we will ultimately need to make to save our nation from the budgetary issues that threaten to destroy our nation from within unlike any military force could do. Any savings as a result of this proposal are based on the assumption that, 'We will continue to overspend for only a few more years. THEN we'll really get serious.' The unfortunate reality, as we all know, is that the overspending continues, but the agreed upon belt-tightening never seems to occur."
Salmon:
". . . for me and most of the constituents I have heard from in my district, this deal falls short of something I could support.

"Unfortunately, this deal fails to even make modest reforms to our nearly bankrupted entitlement programs and it, once again, increases government spending in the short-term with only a promise to make spending cuts in the long-term.

"If we are not willing to make tough choices now, then how can we expect future Congresses to stop kicking the can down the road?

"This was a grand opportunity for our nation's leaders to reform and preserve the fiscal longevity of our entitlement programs, and this deal does not rise to that challenge.

"Furthermore, I have never believed that Congress should raise taxes or increase fees to justify more government spending. Sadly, this deal does exactly this by raising fees on air travelers.

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21 comments
valleynative
valleynative topcommenter

The whole premise of this headline (I can't really call it an article), is flawed.


Matthew is trying to give the impression that, if it had been up to conservatives, there would have been no compromise.   It only takes a moment of thought to realize that there would have been no need for "compromise".

The real headline should have been "Budget Would Have Been Cut if It Were Up to Arizona's Congressmen".

fishingblues
fishingblues topcommenter

Perhaps  the headline should read "The United States would have failed, if it were up to Obama and his team".  WAIT - it is up to Obama and the United States is in failure mode. 

The inept, abysmal failure Obama is ruining the country.  Even the ignorant masses are waking up to that fact.  The loony liberals and socialists are in panic mode.  


robert_graham
robert_graham topcommenter

There's no "would have failed" about the plan, it has failed becasue only 23 billion out of trillions is not the best the Democrats can do.

valleynative
valleynative topcommenter

If you really don't vote for Congressmen thinking they'll engage in showmanship, you probably shouldn't be voting at all, because you don't understand politics.


They voted against it knowing that it would pass anyway, but that they constituents wouldn't like it.   That's exactly what an elected representative should do.



shadeaux14
shadeaux14 topcommenter

Franks voted against it because it didn't contain any vaginal restrictions.

shadeaux14
shadeaux14 topcommenter

Franks voted against it because it didn't involve vaginal restrictions.

DonkeyHotay
DonkeyHotay topcommenter

@fishingblues ... don't forget, the U$ Economic Collapse / Depression / Recession that we are still digging out of was entirely caused by 8 years of corruption and mismanagement by he Criminal Bu$h-Repuglican Junta.



jester.jackson
jester.jackson

@valleynative if by showmanship you mean all talk and no action then yes I agree that it especially applies to Trent Franks, David Schweikert, Paul Gosar, Matt Salmon & Raul Grijalva. When is the last time they contributed anything of value to the conversation? 

valleynative
valleynative topcommenter

@DonkeyHotay@fishingblues 

Not even Democratic economists believe such simple-minded nonsense.   The credit default swap market collapsed because Congress over the years (beginning with the Clinton administration), had chosen not to regulate it.


fishingblues
fishingblues topcommenter

@DonkeyHotay @fishingblues Actually, other than wasting considerable funds on unnecessary war, NO IT WASN'T (and you know it).  It was caused by the ludicrous policies of Dodd/Frank and the Clintons and the rest of the loony left.  They declared, in their infinite wisdom, (cough) that it just wan't fair that poor people didn't own homes.  So they lowered the underwriting standards and the rest is dirty, stinky history.  



valleynative
valleynative topcommenter

@jester.jackson@valleynative 

Voting to block bad ideas is even more important than voting for or even proposing, good ideas.  It's difficult for the people whose bad ideas are being blocked to appreciate that, of course.

fishingblues
fishingblues topcommenter

@DonkeyHotay @valleynative Dude (dudette), all of your blather is meaningless.  The trading of B grade (or less) paper may have indeed needed tighter regulation.  However, the over-abundance of crap loans was a direct result of the loony liberal policies initiated to get poor (read irresponsible) people into home ownership.  

Typical liberal thought process - "...golly, everything will be fine if the market keeps going up."  Well, reality hit and the market did not keep going up (no shit, Sherlock).  The irresponsible let their mortgages go into foreclosure and all of the lower grade paper (which was sold with the promise of a higher grading) was worthless.  Greed definitely played a part here.  However, go back to the beginning -- the reckless lowering of the underwriting standards.  


In the future donk, try to be more concise in lieu of your rather long-winded and fatuous responses.   

valleynative
valleynative topcommenter

@DonkeyHotay@valleynative 

No, you don't seem to understand what you've posted.  It has nothing to do with credit default swaps.  You do also realize, don't you, that Greenspan served under Clinton, too?


DonkeyHotay
DonkeyHotay topcommenter

@valleynative ... start with the Gramm-Leach-Bliley Act, which repealed important protections of the Glass-Steagall Act, enabling the runaway speculative mortgage balloon and the creation of the unregulated -- during the entire Repuglycan dominated Criminal Bu$h Regime -- CDS's you complain about


Even Alan Greenspan, a Republican, admitted this in an interview with Brian Naylor:


BRIAN NAYLOR: The man once known as the maestro for his direction of the nation’s economy as Fed chairman sat for four long hours yesterday, watching lawmakers who once cheered his performances turn into harsh critics. Testifying before the House Oversight Committee, Greenspan didn’t down play the severity of the crisis in the nation’s markets.


Mr. ALAN GREENSPAN (Former Chairman, Federal Reserve): We are in the midst of a once-in-a-century credit tsunami. Central banks and governments are being required to take unprecedented measures.


NAYLOR: Under questioning from Democrats on the panel, Greenspan conceded he might have been, as he put it, partially wrong in not moving to regulate trading of some derivatives that are among the root causes of the credit crisis. He also admitted his free market ideology may be flawed. This exchange with committee chairman, 


Democrat Henry Waxman of California, verged on the metaphysical.


Representative HENRY WAXMAN ): You found a flaw in the reality…


Mr. GREENSPAN: Flaw in the model that I perceived is a critical functioning structure that defines how the world works, so to speak.


Rep. WAXMAN: In other words, you found that your view of the world, your ideology was not right. It was not working.


Mr. GREENSPAN: How it – precisely. That’s precisely the reason I was shocked, because I’ve been going for 40 years or more with very considerable evidence that it was working exceptionally well.


http://www.npr.org/templates/story/story.php?storyId=96070766



Now don't let the Liberkookian-Repuglycan unrestrained Capitalist greed-driven "Free Market" reality change your delusions ... 


valleynative
valleynative topcommenter

@DonkeyHotay

 

What deregulation was responsible?

Be specific.

Even Democrat economists understand that Democratic home lending policy overloaded the INTERNATIONAL credit default swap market, which collapsed.

 

 

DonkeyHotay
DonkeyHotay topcommenter

@valleynative "Republicans tend to believe that government regulation is bad"


Your pathetic apologetic understatement doesn't change the reality that Government DEREGULATION was and is the FOUNDATION of Repuglycan policy -- and that the WORST ECONOMIC COLLAPSE in U$ history since the Great Depression took place after 7+ years of utter economic incompetence by the Criminal Bush Junta.


It was a REPUGLYCAN controlled Congress that decimated existing financial regulation of greed driven Wall Street, paving the way for the subsequent criminal financial disasters.


You can't change that Infamous REALITY anymore than you can deny that the worst Terrorist Attack on US soil ALSO OCCURRED during the incompetent Bu$h-Cheney regime.



valleynative
valleynative topcommenter

@DonkeyHotay@valleynative 

Yes, Republicans tend to believe that government regulation is bad.  You, however are delusional if you think that fact has anything to do with this topic, since it was the Democratic congress that chose not to regulate the credit default swap market.  You can keep repeating the same nonsense over and over, but it still won't make sense.


DonkeyHotay
DonkeyHotay topcommenter

@valleynative = delusional, or deliberately deceptive


Government DEREGULATION is the foundation and cornerstone of Conservative Republicans -- from their icon Ronny Reagan onward.


valleynative
valleynative topcommenter

@DonkeyHotay


You can't blame the Republican Party, and certainly not one particular Republican, for a policy that was pushed through by the Democrats, even if many Republicans would have also supported it.  Just accept that you don't understand the economy well enough to be passing judgment.  There's really no shame in that.


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