Tom Horne's Fight Against In-State Tuition for DREAMers Leads to More Arrests at His Office

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Photo by Matthew Hendley
More diplomas being burned outside Attorney General Tom Horne's office.


More activists were arrested Tuesday at Attorney General Tom Horne's office in Phoenix after another protest of Horne's lawsuit to make DREAMers ineligible to pay in-state tuition at community colleges.

This time, activists held a sort of mock funeral for the dreams of the young people being denied in-state tuition, as the activists burned more high school diplomas and attempted to deliver the ashes in an urn to Horne.

See also:
-Tom Horne Not Budging on Tuition for DREAMers
-DREAMers Burn High School Diplomas at AG's Office to Protest College-Tuition Lawsuit

There was no sign Tuesday of Horne, who filed a lawsuit against the Maricopa Community Colleges to try to prevent the colleges from giving in-state tuition to the young undocumented people who have been granted deferred action. Pima Community Colleges have been added to the lawsuit for attempting to do the same.

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Matthew Hendley


"[DREAMers are] being run down by hit-and-run Horne," Citizens for a Better Arizona field director Beto Soto said.

Protesters were in the lobby of the Attorney General's Office for some time, signing "Amazing Grace" until Arizona State Capitol Police officers told everyone to leave at 5 p.m.

At that point, many left, but some -- who were holding an American flag in front of a portrait of Horne mounted on the wall -- were warned and arrested.

Tents were set up outside the AG's Office, presumably for some overnight protesting.

In related stunts, the same activists associated with CBA got a meeting with Horne last month, and once he said he wasn't budging on his position, they unfurled a large sign that said Horne's a cheater.

In another, the protesters brought in a taco truck, so they could symbolically trade in their high school diplomas for jobs on the taco truck.

UPDATE 3:20 p.m.: Organizers of the protest say those arrested at Horne's office were jailed for 10 hours.


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yourproductsucks2
yourproductsucks2 topcommenter

dreamers need desperately to rid themselves of the group, CBA. they are a cancer and will ruin a legitimate cause in order to gain personal notoriety. CBA (ACORN) are destroying these kids chances of citizenship with these idiotic, self deprecating antics.

robert_graham
robert_graham

Now listen up... when will you get it through your thick skulls that DREAMERS are illegal aliens and state law does not give in-state tuition to illegal aliens.  Just because DREAMers are being allowed to work in this country doesn't change their status from illegal alien to legal alien.  Do DREAMers also get the right to vote too?  They don't.  So, the answer is no... you can yell and scream, protest and stomp your feet and yell racist all you want until you are blue in the face but nothing will change. 

I am planning on adding announcements about DREAMERS on (602) 777-6632 soon.

dennis20
dennis20 topcommenter

If Tom Horne were a Dreamer, his criminal record would exclude him from DACA eligibility.  Think about it.   

RandysRecall4cash
RandysRecall4cash

Like anybody pays attention to Randy Parraz and his clown antics. Since when did Randy become interested in the DREAMers for anything except to exploit them as a free workforce for one of his cash generating scams? Still waiting on the financials from his Penzone for Sheriff and his alleged fake recall of Arpaio, I agree Tom Horne should be thrown out of office, but not before he opens an investigation into Parraz and his activism for cash enterprise.

Alejandro Felix
Alejandro Felix

The arguments here are silly as hell. I can't believe these people still think with a child's mentality, "they broke the law, they're illegal." The issue isn't black and white like you'd think. We all break laws everyday of our lives, let's all get thrown in the private jails to line their pockets.

yourproductsucks2
yourproductsucks2 topcommenter

18 more months and Obama's ploy for votes ends with deferred action.

john043012
john043012 topcommenter

Just because these socalled dreamers have been able to hide in the shadows along with their parents it should not give them a leg up on people who have been paying fee's and waiting years to enter the country legally IIlegal immigrants must get right with the law they should go back to where ever they belong and apply for entry there. Then if they are accepted back in that's fine with almost everybody including me

Se Marie
Se Marie

Lets all go to France illegally - live under the radar for a year then apply to local University. Highly doubtful that you'd be welcomed . . . with or without local tuition rates!

Marco Cruz
Marco Cruz

fucked up that i am a minority in this country legally and i have to compete for scholarships with other minorities who are here illegally. how is that fair?

Carolann Quinn
Carolann Quinn

However if you are military, that is an exception. So, why not government employees who claim their home state as Arizona? My ex is a disabled vet on top of it.

DNichols
DNichols

Mr. Wonderful Tom Horne should be more worried about the thermal video the F.B.I, took of him inside Mrs. Chenals apartment having kinky sex before he did his Hit, and run ?!!

I am sure the F.B.I. had quite a video show of Horne, and Chenal.

Too bad the Goverment Covers its own dirty Asses, I bet the Horne/Chenal sex video would be very funny on the evening News?

eric.nelson745
eric.nelson745 topcommenter

Speaking of Horne's wife, I find it strange that we haven't heard a peep out of her about his affair with his concubine.

Luis Antonio Salazar
Luis Antonio Salazar

You daughter has to have lived physically in most states 1 to 5 years consecutively to get in-state tuition for a community college. Legal or not. Community colleges get paid by local taxes and you must live at that location to obtain in-state tuition. If you pay rent or house payment you're paying for the taxes to enter the local community college. Legally, whether or not your daughter legal or not, she has to have lived consecutively for at least 1 or more years in Arizona to pay in state tuition, if not your breaking the law.I know it sucks when it's labeled as breaking the law when it's obviously unfair, but hey these kids go through it every day so it shouldn't be that bad, right.

Luis Antonio Salazar
Luis Antonio Salazar

No one wants to be illegal. The reason they are is because we have a broken immigration system that does not permit people from Mexico to enter legally. Unless, you are rich and have millions to invest and even then you'll only get a Alien-temporary permit.

john043012
john043012 topcommenter

If a Mexican broke our law entering the country it is most probable he or she will break other laws.Giving them drivers licenses will not make our roads safer nor will giving them instate tuition .

William J. Messer
William J. Messer

Horne's a jerk and a bunch of other things. But give the children and young people a chance to better themselves and in doing so become productive members of society. Damn bunch of hatrers. Horne needs to drop the suit!

Jonathan Duncan
Jonathan Duncan

I don't get a break either since I have been living here for 5 years and decided to return to school. Did community college for 2 years paid instate rate. But at the University level I'm paying out of state since I have not paid state taxes for 2 years. While I do agree out of state should apply too anyone who has not met the instate requirements for tuition since ASU and UofA are funded by tax payer money and other such grants. I do not agree with Mr. Thorns and the rest of the way republican left on how they are handling the dream act in this state is appalling there people are sub human in my opinion just look at the picture above that is disgusting.

MaskedMagician1967
MaskedMagician1967 topcommenter

Horne should be booted for the massive amount of corruption that has been exposed while he's been AG.

john043012
john043012 topcommenter

There are 16 states who issue driver licenses to illegal immigrants ill list them

California Alaska Connecticut Idaho Louisiana Montana Nevada New Mexico North Carolina Ohio,Illinois, Rhode Island, Tennessee, Utah, Washington, and West Virginia

That's a far cry from what who knows is b.sing about Arizona 1 of only 2 states, indeed

Rivka da Cat
Rivka da Cat

If they are illegal, then that means they are not here legally; therefore, they should not get any breaks to go to school here. They can always go back to Mexico for their college education since they are legally Mexicans.

Chuck Klee
Chuck Klee

Keep up the good work Tom. Illegals should not be rewarded...that's why they are called " illegals"..they broke the fuckin law..so do it the right way..Anchor babies are no excuse.

john043012
john043012 topcommenter

@robert_graham The IDIOT whoknows is under the illusion that deferred action for illegal immigrant adult children is the same as other exception's that are occasionally given to few immigrants who are in fear of being prosecuted in their home country. He refuses to acknowledge that Obama's 2 year wavier only gives the illegal kid a work permit along with and easing the fear of being deported that's it nothing else. The socalled dreamers aren't satisfied with that they demand a pathway to citizenship for them and their criminal parents and their continued acting out and demonizing the majority of citizens who is opposed their agenda is only inflaming the situation. Those adult children should be happy with any crumb they are given and until they get right with the law that's pretty much all their going to get.

Flyer9753
Flyer9753 topcommenter

@john043012 

Why? They are not the ones who committed the crime, so why should they be punished for the sins of their parents? Should you be punished for your father being a wife beating alcoholic? Or for your mother being a hooker turning tricks? Of course not.. nor should these people.

They are not jumping ahead of ANYONE, they have to pay their fines, their applicant fees, etc.. etc.. etc.. and THEN they go to the back of the line, not the front.

Your argument is akin to jailing the person who was kidnapped to a foreign country (happens all the time, it's called human trafficking), which is EXACTLY what happened to these kids.

Since when do we punish the person who was kidnapped, rather than the kidnapper?

I am all for legal immigration. I am all for kicking those here illegally out and making them come back in the front door but I am not for punishing and destroying the lives and hard work of those people who WERE brought here against their will and through no fault of their own.

If you are for that, then you are one sick son of a bitch.

squash
squash

@Se Marie  Individuals who live in America for one year do not qualify for deferred action... Your analogy is false.

dennis20
dennis20 topcommenter

@Marco Cruz You poor baby. You probably aren't able to compete at all. 

Flyer9753
Flyer9753 topcommenter

@john043012 

IF they broke the law entering this country.. but THESE people didn't break the law, their parents did.

Why should they be punished for the sins of their parents?

rayboinski
rayboinski

@john043012 Are you really that stupid? You must be. Did you hear about the American guy who killed his wife and child and friend of the family yesterday in Scottsdale? well he was not Mexican. Go ahead and continue to eat your daily bowl of stupid because it shows in your mini pea sized brain full of hate.

DNichols
DNichols

@MaskedMagician:

Perhaps Wonderful Married Mr. Horne's Wife  should speak with Lorena Bobbit on how to remedy part of Hornes Corrupt ways?!

fraun26111
fraun26111

@Rivka da Cat You are an idiot. Most of these kids were brought here as babies. You are what the typical fool in az looks like. You defend horne joke and the under educated governor when they break the laws. Guess white America that is ok to do. 

rayboinski
rayboinski

@Rivka da Cat so are you this outraged that Tom Horne has violated the laws he is supposed to enforce in this state? This horne is a corrupt official and has done ILLEGAL activities, so are you okay with that? ignorant people like you always say go back to ---wherever they come from so where should Horne go back to?  How many illegals that are white do you comment about? those here illegally from Germany, Australia, France, England, Russia? you don't because they are white and in your eyes they are allright.

TommyCollins
TommyCollins topcommenter

@Rivka da Cat Many of them are not from Mexico.

WhoKnows
WhoKnows topcommenter

@Rivka da Cat Sorry, but deferred action means they are here LEGALLY.

ReggieVV
ReggieVV

We need to deport Hornedog, because he is a proven criminal. Dishwashers and car wash workers are not really worth all these resources from the three buffoons, Horny, the Ninth Floor Occupant, and the Senile Shurf.

WhoKnows
WhoKnows topcommenter

@Chuck Klee Except, they are NOT illegal, with the differed actions!  Same as the 40k in AZ alone that were given differed actions before Obama even took office.


The ONLY illegal in this picture is HornieBoi himself, with those campaign fund violations!

TommyCollins
TommyCollins topcommenter

@Flyer9753 If an undocumented person commits theft by shoplifting and his/her three year old child is used to hide the item the child is not considered a criminal.

The adult is held responsible.

I'm not sure why John and others of his ilk can't wrap their minds around that.

John? Your thoughts? Should you have any...

TommyCollins
TommyCollins topcommenter

@john043012 John, there is no such thing as free k12 education for any children. Property taxes pay for our education system, as I'm sure you are aware. Unless a person is living in a tent and not paying rent or a mortgage, they are paying property taxes, directly through rent or mortgages. So, your thought about children of illegals getting 'free' education is simply without merit.

Most of those living in the states illegally are working and paying income taxes, often under assumed names, but still paying taxes that they will never get any refund on. As such those taxes go toward public services, just as yours and mine do. No difference, really, except that they will never get a refund because they can't legally file.

What is the disadvantage of allowing the Dreamers to gain a college education? None, actually. Stats all show that they will make more money over their lifetime and they will pay more taxes while doing so. They will probably buy property and pay more property taxes than you and I, for the benefit of all children enrolled in K-12 schools, regardless of status.

I read your comments and think you have some good thoughts and ideas but it seems you often repeat rhetoric that can only be gained from listening to certain radio entertainers, such as Russ. Open your eyes and think for yourself, John, instead of having your political party tell you what you think. I dare you.

john043012
john043012 topcommenter

@TommyCollins @Flyer9753 First off your argument that children should not have to pay for their parents criminal activity Our jails and prisons are full of parents who's children are paying the price what makes the illegal immigrant children any different?

Second its not like those kids have been deprived they have been given free mandated healthcare free el-hi educations They now demand taxpayers foot the bill for their higher education with instate tuition. Those socalled dreamers know what they need to do in order to get right with the law but they have decided to take an approach by including their criminal parents in any reform and I think that is were the big divide is coming from, at least for me it is

Ok let the insults begin

TommyCollins
TommyCollins topcommenter

@Flyer9753 Flyer, the drinking reference is for the benefit of those of the ilk of YPS2, who apparently thinks no one has the ability to form cogent thoughts and arguments without being aided by alcohol. (S)he purports to be Mormon, but I have my doubts, given the general application of his 'law' as he presents it. As you have said (s)he normally presents just half the information needed, which is the MCSO standard operating procedure. Also, I have a handful of friends who are active pilots. Most of them drink very little and some of them not at all. I think most pilots see alcohol as the career killer it really can be.

TommyCollins
TommyCollins topcommenter

@Flyer9753 I simply afforded good old John the opportunity to share some cogent thoughts. I won't hold my breath waiting. Are we going to drink into another drunken stupor tonight or should we just offer our sober thoughts and have some folks think we must be drunk? :-)

Flyer9753
Flyer9753 topcommenter

@TommyCollins @Flyer9753 

Yeah you do know why they are like this Tommy, but I respect your politeness in not saying it to their faces

john043012
john043012 topcommenter

@MaskedMagician1967 Your reference to Eisenhower is pretty remarkable since it was his out reach program to the illegal immigrant communities that deported over 3 million of them. I think he called it operation wet back

MaskedMagician1967
MaskedMagician1967 topcommenter

WhoKnows, please don't insult the 1950's.

Ike, the WWII Supreme Allied Commander and war hero, was president. Elvis Presley was big in music. There were cool cars ('54 Cadillac Coupe DeVille sounds nice...) low prices on everything, etc.

DNichols
DNichols

@ John043012;

"Your are pathetic"?

Thats  pathetic, most un-documented Immigrants have better grammer.

Get a life, and quiit worrying if Good, Hard working Students, or Human beings amoung us are treated as "Human Beings" in accordance to how Real Americans should treat others.

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