Snowbirds in Phoenix: Good or Bad?

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It appears some feathers were ruffled this week with our list of the "10 Worst Things About Snowbirds."

The number-one retort we got was, but, the economy!

See also:
-10 Worst Things About Snowbirds

We'll note that for the vast majority of us in the Valley, our personal economies are just fine with or without snowbirds.

Sure, they might be bringing money to some people, but we're not the only ones who've found that they don't make life any easier for us.

Let's take an opinion poll on snowbirds. Do you think snowbirds are good or bad? (Be as selfish as you want in your voting.)

Cast your vote below:


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32 comments
rfluna2004
rfluna2004

Shortly after arriving  at the Royal Palm Rv Resort at 2050 Dunlap, Phoenix, Az..my bicycle a Roadmaster 24in. mans was stolen. The staff at the office advised us that since this is a private park the city police would ignore our report. But, after many conversations with the people in the park it came to light that during this month ( Jan, 2014 ) more than seven bycicles have been stolen, with many more batteries from the motorhomes in storage. Many residents, and many more temporary residents have voiced their concerns but the staff in charge is deaf to this problem.

People beware! if you are coming to Phoenix, Arizona to get away from the cold weather, you should take this advise seriously, even chaining your bycicles, generators, batteries, etc. is not enough, think twice before you decide where you will spend a few days or weeks in this area.

salmo60
salmo60

While there is some validity about "snowbirds" and their driving, given a choice I would rather drive behind a "snowbird" rather than some 17 year old, M or F, yakking on their cell phone or worse  - texting. They are a menace just like drunk drivers or drivers stoned on "medical marijuana".

By the way folks, if you think drivers in Phoenix are bad, and they are, try driving the Beltway around Washington DC, anywhere in or around Boston or NYC and especially Miami and Dade County.

DNichols
DNichols

Reality:

Phoenix has some of the highest Vehicle Tags, Vehicle Insurance, and toughest Emissions Standards in the Nation.

The "Snow Bird Scam" allows these people that have enough money to leave Arizona when it is hot as hell to EVADE PAYING THIER FAIR SHARE!

The Arizona Residents stuck here all year pay to fix the roads, pay the highest Auto Insurance rates,  and have to breathe the Polluted air from non Emission complying vehicles in the Winter when our air is its dirtiest!

Time "Snow Birds"  PAY THIER FAIR SHARE?!!!

Part Time RESIDENTS plates, or a compliance tag?

Lawmakers?!

ewthorne
ewthorne

The ignorance of Arizona is showing here.  They keep their home state residences and vote there.  They don't vote here.  Many come from states with higher property taxes and do not want to give up their homestead claims, which allows them to save money, to pay taxes here.  

Striking Stone
Striking Stone

As a small business, we think Snowbirds are good! We need that income to survive and I am sure many other business would agree!

Marco Cruz
Marco Cruz

Cant wait to hear the first news report of the first snowbird catching a bullet from an AZ native road rager.

Frank Even
Frank Even

We have the same issues....just amped up...so it really doesn't matter. I think it's funny when people attribute bad driving to snowbirds. Our bad driving problem is year round. People....get out of the left lane already if you are not passing. If someone is behind you...in the left lane(s), MOVE OVER! That's standard roadway etiquette....it's really not that hard.

Nicole Goard
Nicole Goard

They're old, they've turned it. Who the hell cares? It boosts the local economy. So you have to cut over a lane and not drive behind someone who is slow. I'm sure it's a huge inconvenience. You're all going to be old one day too. Be nice.

Yazzer Fly
Yazzer Fly

I love surprising them with how un racist locals are and breaking az stereotypes . But they do get territorial as hell and should learn how to drive too

Erika Mitchell
Erika Mitchell

That article was so great!!! I had to share it on my page. And for my friends and family that don't do Facebook, I pulled up the article and showed it to them. Everyone thought it was great!!! I agree, people from Chicago are about the worst. They always run their mouth about how great their town is, and how great their teams are, and I usually ask them why they don't go back home. I don't need an answer, I've been there. I know how much it sucks.Additionally, I was at the Phoenix Coyotes game last night where a lot of rude cannucks fans pushed my 72 year old native Arizonan stepmother using a cane to get past her. Super rude.

Kenny Ilardo
Kenny Ilardo

Snowbirds from Iowa = Idiots obliviously wandering Arizona...

DNichols
DNichols

COMMON SENSE:

"Snow Birds" are good for Arizona's Winter economy, however the void in summer makes it hard for buisnesses to adjust.

The price for "Snow Birds" enjoying Arizona's perfect Winter Climate should be to Pay Thier Fair share when it comes to maintaining our Roads, and keeping our Air Clean since winter is when our air is its dirtiest!

Arizona should issue a special compliance sticker for Part Time Residents vehicles to show that they both contribute to our States Road Maintanence costs, and that they comply with our States Emissions standards.

Higher priced vehicle tags should be in order for part time RESIDENTS just like out of state tuition?!

Time they PAY THIER FAIR SHARE.

Law Makers?!!

Tyler Pruitt
Tyler Pruitt

"ZOMG! I hate all these people that want to live in my state." You guys sound like Californians. The difference is people want to live there year-round. You should be happy that you live in a place that anyway wants to live in, regardless of their age.

Lou Peña
Lou Peña

Bad, bad cottonheads! They should not be driving :/

Steven Ditzel
Steven Ditzel

It's no surprise that you got so many complaints about that article. It is easily one of the most offensive and skewed pieces of garbage from the New Times that I have ever read.

Hattie Douglas
Hattie Douglas

Funny I was thinking they shave the ability to skew elections the other way being we are a traditionally RED state and I see a lot of Blue state license plates

Henry Alvarez
Henry Alvarez

Those states call us sun birds. But i couldn't imagine a good reason outside of friends or family to visit Michigan. But i think patience between visitors and locals should be mutual.

Walt Creed
Walt Creed

Bad I think they tend to skew elections as well, how else does Arpaio keep getting elected, older folks that maybe used to live here full time, easy to scare, because they live sheltered lives and can't see past the BS they are fed by the Shurf and the Governor and the AG and.....

Flippwithtwopz Street Shaman
Flippwithtwopz Street Shaman

if your 70 years old it probably would just make them a worse driver.. getting all confused and shit lol

Tina J Chavez
Tina J Chavez

I wish they were more respectful to locals, especially when it comes to driving. There's no excuse to not have a GPS system anymore.

Leslie Jones
Leslie Jones

This state would be broke without them. I wish they would not drive during 'peak' hours.

Crystal Garcia
Crystal Garcia

I live in between Sun city & Surprise, I do not like them!

ewthorne
ewthorne

@DNichols Hate to pop your bubble but they pay their fair share of gas taxes and the taxes they pay back in Iowa fix the roads you are wrecking down here.  Next time check and see how much federal grant money is used to pay for things.  If these old people are from blue states they pay even a higher share to this blood sucking red state.  Many also pay their fair share of propert taxes.

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