Joe Arpaio's Hate Campaign Against the Undocumented Persists Despite New Rules

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No one would call the sheriff's lawyer, Tim Casey, a maestro of spin, but his response to federal Judge G. Murray Snow's final order in the ACLU's racial-profiling lawsuit, Melendres v. Arpaio, was a little like painting a smiley face on day-old road kill.

Arpaio still is the jefe, Casey told several news outlets, and the monitor Casey fought so hard against -- the one Snow's order insists upon -- will have "absolutely no veto power."

Which sounds like a significant point, unless you understand that no one ever sought "veto power" for the monitor who will act as Snow's eyes and ears in the execution of his detailed, 59-page order.

In fact, Casey pulled this straw man out of his briefcase on August 30, the last time both sides in Melendres met before Snow's October 2 injunction.

Snow was having none of it.

"Where in that procedure, where in the proposed order ... does it give the monitor any veto authority over Joe Arpaio's operational decisions?" Snow demanded of Casey.

"It does not," Casey had to admit. "None of it does, either in our version or in the plaintiffs' version."

Snow, in his order, makes clear that he is the "ultimate arbiter of compliance" in Melendres, as you would expect him to be. If the parties cannot resolve any issues with the monitor, "the parties may submit their grievances to the court for a resolution."

And, like a spoiled brat who refuses to obey his babysitter because she isn't Mommy or Daddy, the Maricopa County Sheriff's Office risks a spankin' when the parents get home, or in this case, when Snow has to lay down the law -- yet again -- to a recalcitrant Arpaio.

Because the monitor will have "the duties, responsibilities, and authority conferred by the court," according to Snow's order.

The MCSO must grant the monitor, which could be an individual or a team, appropriate office space and equipment. And the Sheriff's Office must allow the monitor "full and direct access to all personnel, documents, facilities ... and meetings."

That access includes "all records and information relating to criminal investigations," and should the MCSO decide to do a "pre-planned operation" (you know, like a sweep) involving 10 or more personnel, the MCSO must produce a "written protocol," outlining most aspects of the operation and provide it in advance to the monitor.

Afterward, the MCSO has to turn over extensive data to the monitor and the plaintiffs regarding what was done and who was stopped and arrested, among other things.

The MCSO's new court-appointed czar will review the massive amount of data that the MCSO now will have to collect on all its traffic stops, perform "audits, compliance reviews, and outcome assessments," and examine new policies and procedures insisted upon by the court.

Acting on behalf of Snow, the monitor will evaluate training materials, curriculum, and instructors for the extensive retraining of all MCSO deputies (including upper-echelon) and all posse members on the U.S. Constitution's Fourth Amendment prohibition against unreasonable search and seizure. And the monitor will evaluate "comprehensive and interdisciplinary training [for deputies and posse members] on bias-free policing."

Quarterly and annual reports will be submitted by the monitor to the court as a means of ensuring "the defendants' implementation of and compliance with this order," which will run "against the sheriff in his official capacity and the MCSO" until the Sheriff's Office has achieved and maintained full and effective compliance "for no less than three years."

The parties are supposed to agree on a monitor within 60 days. If they can't, they must submit names of candidates within 70 days.

How much will a monitor cost? According to a report issued in July by the Police Executive Research Forum -- a report submitted to the court by Casey -- the cost could be anywhere from $1 million to $2 million a year.

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laura.johnson23
laura.johnson23

PROTECT OUR EASTERN BORDERS. from the likes of Sammy the Bull, and his fellow eastern Italian American Joe Arpaio. Sam's Federal prison-Casa Grande-white supremacist meth ring completely f&cked  our state. As for Joe,: the corrupt ex DEA agent who patronized prostitutes that he knew would be killed later. (google it.)  he's made the rest of the world see us as Nazi's If we could get him to return to Springfield Mass where he's from, we would once again be known as the Grand Canyon state.

mary14nx05y
mary14nx05y

I hate Mexicans and I support the Sheriff doing anything he can to get rid of them.  I would support the mass execution of Mexicans if that would help, too.

Denise Mason
Denise Mason

Arpaio does NOT HATE ILLEGAL ALIENS!!!!! He enforces the laws!!!!! Get it straight!!!!!

MaskedMagician1967
MaskedMagician1967 topcommenter

It's nice to see a true conservative Republican judge bitch-slapping that disgraceful old fool Joke Arpaio.

Hopefully the DOJ's lawsuit against the narcissistic old man concludes quickly especially in light of Judge Snow's rulings.

Arpaio can whine, cry and stomp his feet to the 9th Circuit but I highly doubt they will overrule Judge Snow.

And now that the Old Fool no longer has BS1070 to use to terrorize Latinos, he has to be forced to police in the 21st century (since BS1070 is a Nuremberg-style statute).

I give Joe 2 nanoseconds before he violates Judge Snow's orders.

Don Collins
Don Collins

Let me guess ! your illiterate and you sure as hell can't spell !!!

Danny Virgil
Danny Virgil

never answered the aqe question, but no matter. you gray hairs are a dying breed, from Capitol Hill to downtown Phoenix. change is inevitable. and so is death.

john043012
john043012 topcommenter

I would like to know what your answer's would be to this  scenario. A guy or woman just failed to come to a complete stop at a stop sign and you are a cop so you call to get permission to find out if its ok to pull the vehicle over and you get a go ahead instruction. You put on your overhead lights and pull the vehicle over. You ask the driver his or her license the driver looks nervous, seems to not understand your request so you pull out a copy of a licenses and the driver just looks forward ignoring you. At this point what do you think a monitor would advise the cop to do?

whateveryousay
whateveryousay topcommenter

If the general population of the area is not happy with his performance, why don't they take action and vote in another candidate?  I mean that as a real question. In both the 2008 and 2012 elections the voter turnout averaged 75%.  With that type of turnout, one would believe there is room for an effective campaign to elect another candidate.


keepthemdogiesrollin
keepthemdogiesrollin

Sheriff Joe keeps the heat on the illegal mexicans and makes their anchor babies cry. that's a good thing, because we want to drive those dogies to the promised land in California.

Don Collins
Don Collins

Our demise as you call it is letting Illegals in from Mexico that can't even keep up their own country so they figure they'll come over here and trash ours. Been to Mexico quite a few times and have seen just how well it's kept up, NOT !!!!!!!!!!!!!

FUQYU
FUQYU

All the Mexicans who still take pride in Mexico should really not be saying a goddamn thing about Arpaio or AZ.  Mexico persecutes its indigenous population to this day and denies even the simplest forms of basic human rights.  How dare you assholes stir the pot here when you did nothing to protect the rights of humans there.  Fuck off.  Everyone else, regardless of creed or color, speak your peace against our unjust system, however, if you want real change you must take it a step further than just complaining about it.

DNichols
DNichols

Nothing will change.

Arpaio is an Expert at concealing M.C.S.O. Coruption, destroying documents, he has even taught his Deputies to Lie, and Steal right inside Court Rooms.

The M.C.S.O. Racism will continue until this Tyrant is out of office.

phxjustice
phxjustice

Until a person who interested in the law and not his/her media fame is elected as the Maricopa County Sheriff, the people of Maricopa County will continue to pay out millions each year and nothing will change.

gerry_c
gerry_c

George Gascon for monitor.

Go-Getter ML
Go-Getter ML

Lemme guess..your like around 50 yrs of age?. Right?..that's how the "old" thinkers think..they have no historical education and like to blame other countries for their demise

Camille Stodgell
Camille Stodgell

Sheriff Joe is doing what is BEST for Arizona...UNLIKE some other states...California for Example --Giving Driver's licenses to ILLEGAL...Crazy or what...GO SHERIFF JOE...Keep on doing your job & a Good One at that...

Go-Getter ML
Go-Getter ML

okay??? so we're arguing over a dumb pic? Nothing you say should be taken seriously sir! Like who cares about a dum pic. And to say that CNN is really credible makes you the bigger dumb ass..CNN is the most un-credible news there is. What rock do you guys live under?

Go-Getter ML
Go-Getter ML

He needs to put that energy/passion towards the battered and child molestation cases that he's overlooked for so long

Don Collins
Don Collins

Undocumented my ass, their Illegal, and mooching off our goverment with my taxes !!!!!

Phillip Robertson
Phillip Robertson

Of course the fact remains that nothing the MCSO does can be taken seriously.

Chris Rasmussen
Chris Rasmussen

I agree that they are nothing to be taken seriously.

Danny Stauffer
Danny Stauffer

It's a free area newsletter. I highly doubt they're meant to be taken as seriously as CNN or BBC and I don't think they make any statements that hey feel they should be

Chris Rasmussen
Chris Rasmussen

Pfft. First rule of photojournalism is not to alter an image. New Times you have no class or credibility.

danzigsdaddy
danzigsdaddy topcommenter

and just how far into the countdown does anyone think Joe will get before they reset it back to 3 years? remember its supposed to be 3 years of uninterrupted compliance before Snow will lift the order (i give Joe 2 weeks)

eric.nelson745
eric.nelson745 topcommenter

While you're at it, Jaffy, why don't you say that Obama is worse than Hitler, just like that bitch-ho legislator up in Payson? Are you woman enough?

robert_graham
robert_graham

Hating "undocumentated" is no different than hating drug addicts, rapists, child molesters, etc., unless you feel it is racist to hate them too.  You fucking libtards just don't know when to shutup.

IdontRecall
IdontRecall

@mary14nx05y, I bet that u were denied some Mexican cock up ur ass, that's why u hate them, i don't blame them though, since probably u r a cockeyed ugly bitch. U might try hooking up with Jaffy, he's a Mexican and he likes ugly bitches, perhaps he'll do that favor 4 u. UGLY BIATCH.

azweasel
azweasel

Maybe you should move back to the south you fucking piece of shit cunt.

rayboinski
rayboinski

@mary14nx05y-- My thoughts are wow, this broad really does eat a bowl. of stupid daily, and i wonder how you make it to choir practice on time since surely you have to be a Christian and probably from somewhere else besides Arizona. Be rest assured that Mexicans hate people like you too, I don't because I hope to have compassion for the ignorant like you,i  can imagine the type of parents you had to teach you all that hate. As they say in the WWF Wrestling Suck It. 

rayboinski
rayboinski

well Mary I'm sure Mexicans hate you too, It's nice to nice that you support so much but i wonder if the mexicans are not helping to support you and your family

MaskedMagician1967
MaskedMagician1967 topcommenter

Denise, Joe Arpaio is a fucking hateful old man. He has failed miserably at being a sheriff and has cost taxpayers close to $250M between legal fees and payouts. Get it straight you fool.

danzigsdaddy
danzigsdaddy topcommenter

@john043012  why is it so hard for everyone to understand what the monitors do? it has been gone over by both sides of the argument, it has been gone over by the judge who ruled that there will be monitors, and it has been published in every single paper that has run the story, and it has been rehashed numerous times in every blog about the monitors. the monitors observe and report to the judge, they have absolutely NO say in what happens. if the monitor has to advise in a traffic stop, it will be an advisory letter to the judge about the cop who made the stop (and that will only happen if the cop has done something to warrant the monitors attention) if the cop made a bust under the conditions you described, the better question is "what would the cop do?" if the cop has all of those indicators that there may be a problem and is still waiting for advice on how to proceed...........he would be considered incompetent. 

JustThinking
JustThinking

@john043012 The monitor can't advise the officers what to do. All the judge is looking for is a trail to determine if the stops are legit. How is this all so hard to understand?

WhoKnows
WhoKnows topcommenter

@keepthemdogiesrollin Joke himself is an "anchor baby".  Guess you didn't know that FACT.  Read "his" book, that he admited under oath that not only he didn't write, but never read!


As far as illegals in general, only 1 of 10 illegals in MCSO jails was busted by MCSO.  5 of 10, Phx PD.

DNichols
DNichols

@gerry-c

Im for Danny Trejo for Arpaios Spank Bottom Monitor.

IdontRecall
IdontRecall

@DonCollins, r u still collecting desability checks....remember that u can do that thanks 2 d money coming from all those unclaimed income tax returns that all those illegals"  didn't claim, money that serves to fund "your entitlements".  MOOCHING & MUNCHING MUCH.

IdontRecall
IdontRecall

@Chris Rasmussen, then explain 2 me, why did u photoshoped ur image , that body of water just looks out of place.....my bad...is just a picture that u hanged behind u, so it looks that u r in a "exotic place", very nice.......n-way, d dog doesn't look at his own tail. DIG????

WhoKnows
WhoKnows topcommenter

@danzigsdaddy Two weeks will happen only if another sidewalk crack thing occurs and he's kept unconscious for two weeks!  Get real!  I'll give it a 2 hours!

MaskedMagician1967
MaskedMagician1967 topcommenter

"No man is above the law and no man is below it, nor do we ask any man's permission when we ask him to obey it."--President Theodore Roosevelt

TR is one of the most respected men in history Robert. We're asking Joe--through the courts--to do the job he was hired to do. Though we shouldn't have to ask a judge to make Joe do his job.

Arpaio is not above the law, nor should he feel or believe he is. This is what I don't understand. Why does Joe feel and/or believe he is above the law? Answer my question Robert, if you think you can.

drdarrow
drdarrow

@robert_graham "Undocumentated" isn't a word. Why do you hate drug addicts? they're mostly harmless. There are way more people addicted to prescription drugs than "street" drugs. A lot of them drive, too.

dlee23
dlee23

Heh, odds are that someone close to you by blood or time has had some sort of addiction issue... whether it be drugs, alcohol (which is a drug itself), cigarette (another drug),

WhoKnows
WhoKnows topcommenter

@robert_graham Jaffy - much of the infected Foster Farms chicken that made hundreds sick was from a plant in Fresno.  Is feather plucker your 2nd job?  You know, when you're not selling beer to 16 year olds at the shell station?

mikefrombisbee
mikefrombisbee

@robert_graham It's quite different but you aren't able to see that. I pity you.Not man enough to do anything other than to rant on a keyboard. Good luck.

danzigsdaddy
danzigsdaddy topcommenter

@robert_graham neither does Joe, thats one of the reasons the court decided to dictate what will and will not be done, against Joe's wishes  if you wanted to tell people to shut up, you should have been telling that to Joe before the court got tired of his blustering in front of the camera's

Flyer9753
Flyer9753 topcommenter

@danzigsdaddy @john043012 

Remember, you are dealing with the Republican Extremists alternate reality (aka - The Bubble), so things like Snow already making this perfectly clear don't matter - they didn't happen.

Things like the media reporting it over and over don't matter, this is alternate reality, it didn't happen.

Things like Snow finding just cause for his rulings and subsequent decrees, this is alternate reality, he never did those things.

I mean really... these are the same people who STILL think Romney is going to win 2012 in a LANDSLIDE, that Obama is a fascist socialist cannibalistic dictator (even though those are exclusionary to each other) that time traveled to plant a fake birth announcement to cover up that he was actually born in Kenya and that Ted Cruz is eligible to be President.... etc...etc...etc...

Need any more be said? :)

john043012
john043012 topcommenter

@JustThinking OK  I get it the monitor has no say , what do you think the cop should do ?

dlee23
dlee23

Unfortunately that posted incompletely twice now but I lost it this last attempt and I'm not retyping it again... ultimate point being that your inability to explain decent reasoning regarding putting child molesters and drug addicts in the same boat.

HAHAHA
HAHAHA

@Flyer9753 LOL You think the REAL Republicans are the mainstreamers?  The Tea Partiers are the extremists who ruined the Republican party?  Wow, you are a dumb ass.  Fuck the mainstream neo-con NWO sellouts who worship the Federal Reserve and China, Fuck the Tea Party hidden agenda Corporatists, Fuck the Democratic (former party of pro-slavery) British backed NWO slave masters who also worship the Fed Reserve and China, and fuck imbeciles such as yourself you idiotic inbred moron.

Flyer9753
Flyer9753 topcommenter

@MaskedMagician1967

"Ted Cruz is a fucking douchebag." - Agreed

"Mitt Romney would never have won the presidency." - Agreed, too bad no one told Carl Rove that before the night of the election.... :)

I have little problem with Christie, he is more in line with what the Republican party (not the extremists/teapartiers) really is comprised of, rather than the loudmouth idiots speaking for it.

As to Romney as a VP, that's plain nutz for more reasons than I want to spend the time typing.

The Republicans as a party are dead as far as politically for the next 6-10 years, the extremists have done too much damage already. 

The only question that remains is how long this goes on and how low the party sinks until it either 

- self destructs

- the Real Republicans get rid of the extremists

- the extremists break off on their own (which won't happen, they are using and need the mooched support of the rest of the party to survive)

MaskedMagician1967
MaskedMagician1967 topcommenter

"Need any more be said? :)"

Yes. Ted Cruz is a fucking douchebag.

Mitt Romney would never have won the presidency.

And I personally think Chris Christie should run for president with Romney as VP much the same way McKinley selected TR for the 1900 presidential election. TR energized the Republican party.

Need more be said Flyer? :)

IdontRecall
IdontRecall

@john043012, u need 2 go back under ur rock, since u r unable to comprehend......try 2 make d 2 cells in ur brain 2 rub harder, perhaps that'll help a little bit and u can understand the whole scope of Judge Snow's rulings. MORON#1

Cozz
Cozz topcommenter

@JustThinking

Simple concepts is not something MCSO has the mentality to comprehend.

JustThinking
JustThinking

@john043012 @JustThinking I think the cop should follow the procedures set forth in the training they receive. Again a simple concept. If they are properly trained and follow that training they will be fine and there will be no problems at all. This has not been the case on many occasions with MCSO thus the monitor

dlee23
dlee23

Cut off again... f*ckit. Good Night

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