Joe Arpaio Heads to the Woodshed: Judge G. Murray Snow Orders Monitor, Retraining, Video Cameras on Patrol Cars, and More in Melendres

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Federal Judge G. Murray Snow issued his much-anticipated final order Wednesday in the ACLU's big racial-profiling case Melendres v. Arpaio, and you can bet Sheriff Joe will not be pleased.

The detailed 59-page command requires strict compliance with the court's previous injunctions against the MCSO's prejudiced policing toward Latinos, and it should force radical change on a law enforcement agency that has yet to join the 20th century, much less the 21st.

Essentially, Snow lowered the boom on Arpaio with a permanent injunction that the court will oversee until the MCSO has maintained "full and effective compliance" for a minimum of three years. Arpaio's office lost the case in May, with Snow's ruling that the MCSO had engaged in biased policing, a practice he ordered the MCSO to end.

As anticipated, in today's ruling, Snow ignored the objections of Arpaio and his attorney Tim Casey and ordered the appointment of an independent monitor at the MCSO's expense to review all aspects of the Sheriff's Office's compliance with this permanent injunction.

And there will be a lot for the monitor to oversee.

Read Judge Snow's final order, detailing what the MCSO must do to end its racial-profiling ways.

For instance, Snow instructs the MCSO to develop policies and procedures preventing discriminatory policing and unlawful detentions, keep detailed records of all traffic stops and larger traffic operations, and implement an "early identification system" designed to identify and halt unconstitutional behavior on the part of deputies.

The MCSO also will be required to provide "all sworn deputies, including supervisors and chiefs, as well as all posse members" with 12 hours of "comprehensive and interdisciplinary training on bias-free policing," and six hours on the Fourth Amendment, "including on detentions, arrests and the enforcement of Immigration-related laws."

The Fourth Amendment training will emphasize "the rule that use of race or ethnicity to any degree, except in the case of a reliable, specific suspect description, is prohibited."

Additionally, the MCSO must implement a community outreach program, consisting of annual community meetings in each of the MCSO's patrol districts, a bilingual community liaison officer, and a six-member Community Advisory Board, with three members chosen by the plaintiffs.

Future traffic stops will be audio and video recorded, and all patrol vehicles will be installed with the proper video cameras for such recordings within the next two years. Specialized units enforcing immigration-related laws must have the cams within the next 180 days.


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r.insider.1
r.insider.1

Yes, let's all pander to the illegal spics despite their clear intent to violate our laws and sovereignty.

MaskedMagician1967
MaskedMagician1967 topcommenter

I personally believe Arpaio could've avoided this problem. All he had to do was act independently of Candy Andy.

We have Candy Andy to blame for this shit. The damage caused by these narcissists will be felt for a very long time.

This is their legacy. A police state and 4 million people in fear of law and order. The people have little to no confidence in their county sheriff's office and their county attorney's office.

MaskedMagician1967
MaskedMagician1967 topcommenter

Wonder what will happen with the DOJ lawsuit in light of Judge Snow's decision that the Old Fool is guilty of racial profiling and ordered a monitor shoved up his ass.

FRONTERA
FRONTERA

Watching  Joe do the slow burn - im livin the dream"....

yourproductsucks2
yourproductsucks2 topcommenter

it appears there will be significant time spent in boring legal update classes and copious hours spent filling out questionnaires and daily logs on otherwise simple traffic stops. it doesn't appear That being a sergeant in this office all be a sought out assignment. glad I wont have to deal with it.Thanks arpaio.

TommyCollins
TommyCollins topcommenter

I heard recently that the elderly elected official (EEO) of MCSO has submitted my name as a nominee for the monitor position.

Well, maybe not...

Hey, Robert the Twit, what do you think?

Dontbelieveit
Dontbelieveit topcommenter

He looks like Mussolini pounding his fist on the podium!!!!!!!

Flyer9753
Flyer9753 topcommenter

@phxmusicman64 

BTW - that is a monitored Blog - we'll see how many posts and of what type they 'allow'

Flyer9753
Flyer9753 topcommenter

@phxmusicman64 

Done.. whoever wrote that article btw really needs to go back to journalism school instead of the spin school they obviously attended

MaskedMagician1967
MaskedMagician1967 topcommenter

Possibly Mr. Grahamcracker.

I personally think the DOJ will file a motion for summary judgment against Arpaio and get their monitor shoved up the hateful old man's ass.

yourproductsucks2
yourproductsucks2 topcommenter

this, coming from a guy who' s sole existenceon this blog is hellbent on attacking another humsn being who obviously (you' ve documented the evidence yourself) suffers from mental illness.

the organization contnues to be punished for the policies and practices of one individusl. none of judge s ruling affects the root of the problem, rather misplaces blame on the shoulders of those alr eady oppressed by political wrangling.

go back to poking at the mentally ill.

MaskedMagician1967
MaskedMagician1967 topcommenter

Musicman, Arpaio and Mussolini have a bit in common.

>> Both are Italian

>> Both are corrupt

>> Both couldn't lead their way out of a wet brown paper bag.

>> Both are douchebags.

TommyCollins
TommyCollins topcommenter

@MaskedMagician1967 Done correctly, that will be a 24/7 job for a team of at least five. For every change they try to implement some folks will be making at least two others trying to block it. I have nothing but sympathy for whomever is selected...

TommyCollins
TommyCollins topcommenter

@robert_grahamcracker Thanks. I just threw that out for it's entertainment value. I don't expect anyone to read my comment and then have to explain it to Jaffy. No one has that kind of time to waste.

danzigsdaddy
danzigsdaddy topcommenter

@Flyer9753 i can most definitely see it as one the lawyers threw in and told Joe to agree with...............and you know Joe loves to claim credit for everything (I.E: the french connection)

danzigsdaddy
danzigsdaddy topcommenter

@Flyer9753 to be honest, i dont know if that was an actual "Joe" argument or one the lawyers threw in

Flyer9753
Flyer9753 topcommenter

@danzigsdaddy @Flyer9753 

They admitted it was a lame argument but not why it was and IMO the why has relevance in speaking to the state of mind of the powers that be at and in MCSO

danzigsdaddy
danzigsdaddy topcommenter

@Flyer9753 YPS did..............really early on, YPS said it was a lame argument

danzigsdaddy
danzigsdaddy topcommenter

@Flyer9753 why was that the issue? in my opinion it was a lame duck argument to stall for time and also something that could be withdrawn in exchange for something Joe wanted the opposition to withdraw

Flyer9753
Flyer9753 topcommenter

@yourproductsucks2

"calling in the stop is not theissue."

So what is? Cameras?

If the stops and calling them in when stopped is not an issue, then why was that one of the things Joe was fighting against? 

danzigsdaddy
danzigsdaddy topcommenter

@yourproductsucks2  nor is it the answer, but it is a start to fixing things. MCSO has some good cops, just a bad leader. with the removal of Joe, more of those good cops will have a chance to shine. Joe is the one damaging MCSO and as long as we can stop him or remove him, we can start letting that agency heal and become the agency it could be

Flyer9753
Flyer9753 topcommenter

@danzigsdaddy @Flyer9753 

100% Agree.. the real irony here is that if he had not been such a dick to the court during the investigation and trial.. he probably would have gotten a slap on the wrist and a stern word, then left on his 'own recognizance' to fix his department

Joes own actions brought this ton of bricks down on him and the future actions that will follow

danzigsdaddy
danzigsdaddy topcommenter

@Flyer9753 this is something he needs to fear not because of the things put in effect NOW, but what other possibilities it can open down the road............and those will be the actions that stop him

danzigsdaddy
danzigsdaddy topcommenter

@Flyer9753 thats what i am saying. we havent won entirely, but we are gaining ground. this is a damn good first step that is opening the door, but it isnt whats going to stop him. as long as he has that decision against him and people monitoring him...............it opens more possibilities

Flyer9753
Flyer9753 topcommenter

@danzigsdaddy @Flyer9753 

You are right, the impact probably will be slow, but I will take slow over nothing.

While I agree that Joe will attempt to delay anything to the max he can, at this point rulings form Snow about things that need changed/addressed will start to come with increasing frequency once the boards and advisors are up and running.

Also remember that Snows rulings can be made binding in the face of any appeal unless Arpaio can get an injunction from another court, something that as more and more information comes out will be harder and harder to do.

danzigsdaddy
danzigsdaddy topcommenter

@robert_grahamcracker i think it is the right decision and the right move, and i am happy with it, i just think that its only halfway through the battle though. i think we still have more to do to get things right. i dont think the monitor will stop him, but it will slow him down

Flyer9753
Flyer9753 topcommenter

@yourproductsucks2

"its simple. its not common practice amongst agencies to do so. anyone who has been a law enforcement officer knows that.

maybe the trend changes, who knows.:

What is not common practice? Calling in a stop when you make the stop? Cameras?

You are wrong on both of those points, but please, confirm for us what you were replying to there since it did not get tagged as a reply to someone.

Flyer9753
Flyer9753 topcommenter

@yourproductsucks2

"the aclu touts victory with any scenario they involve themselves in."

This has nothing to do with the ACLU so your bringing them up is just a deflection attempt.

"already the judge has determined the monitors existence will exceed arpaio. there is zero reason for arpaio to conform as the monitor can do nothing but file reports. litigation will be strung out to the point that no action by snow( who has shone he is incapable of coming to reasonably timely conclusions) will affect arpaio."

While I know you really want to believe this, it's false. Several of the actions Arpaio has directly taken are possibly civil rights violations that he is directly responsible for and can easily haunt him long after he is gone from MCSO.

While I hope you are right about "monitors existence will exceed Arpaio" that makes the assumption that Joe will not attempt another term... while I hope this is the case, that is not known yet so it is worthwhile to pursue this.

yourproductsucks2
yourproductsucks2 topcommenter

its simple. its not common practice amongst agencies to do so. anyone who has been a law enforcement officer knows that.

maybe the trend changes, who knows.

danzigsdaddy
danzigsdaddy topcommenter

@Flyer9753 i honestly believe that since the monitor has no authority over Joe or operations, any impact will be slow in happening. heres how i see it (correct me if i am wrong)............the monitor and panel will just observe and report, so Joe will continue to try to pull the same shit he has been doing for years. there will be plenty of reports turned in before any other action is taken against Joe. (it took 7 years for it to get this far). it will EVENTUALLY turn into sanctions or legal action against Joe (be it a week or 3 years from now) and when it does, it will again be another long dragged out process (slightly quicker this time because now he already has one ruling against him). the eventual outcome will be NOT in Joe's favor, but it will take time. i am also believing that it will draw more attention and insight into the crap he is pulling, has pulled and will pull and that will hopefully be enough to either get some kind of action rolling against him or hopefully keep him from getting one more election under his belt. it may not be immediate satisfaction, but it will eventually be satisfaction and i am good with that (i would prefer IMMEDIATE satisfaction, but i am a realist and dont think we can get it)

yourproductsucks2
yourproductsucks2 topcommenter

already the judge has determined the monitors existence will exceed arpaio. there is zero reason for arpaio to conform as the monitor can do nothing but file reports. litigation will be strung out to the point that no action by snow( who has shone he is incapable of coming to reasonably timely conclusions) will affect arpaio.

the aclu touts victory with any scenario they involve themselves in.

Flyer9753
Flyer9753 topcommenter

@yourproductsucks2 @robert_grahamcracker @danzigsdaddy

"stating the reason for the stop prior to making the stop is nothing more than a procedural change..it is virtually meaningless and no one will be affected by it."

It has IMMENSE meaning since it means that it will be harder for officers to make up a 'valid' reason after the 'fishing expedition' disguised as a traffic stop.

It also will increase officer safety since officers responding to an officer out of communication or a call for backup will have more information to go on before they arrive on scene, namely the reason for the initial stop, rather than arriving on scene without that information.

Why this was not being done from day 1 is amazing IMO, as there is absolutely no good reason not to do it, and so many good reasons to do it.

Flyer9753
Flyer9753 topcommenter

@yourproductsucks2 @robert_grahamcracker @danzigsdaddy 

Actually the monitor will have a lot of influence, just not direct influence.

The monitor is not there to enforce, they are there to be eyes, Snow is the enforcement and clearly is more than willing based on what he HAS seen to make binding rulings that will affect how Joe and MCSO operate. 

This ruling from Snow is just the first to come. Once the monitor and community advisory board are in place you WILL see more rulings from Snow based on what the monitors and advisors report and that report will be from eyes that Joe has no ability to intimidate or sway.

That's the real benefit, getting some actual honest answers about what is really happening inside MCSO so that the obvious problems can be addressed.

yourproductsucks2
yourproductsucks2 topcommenter

arpaio remains in charge..the monitor has zero authority over arpaio or his decisions. without any evidence, whatsoever, youve determined your conclusion is the only accurate outcome. kudos to you. it must be bliss living in a world where you are always right and can justify and rationalizeyour own indiscretions.

yourproductsucks2
yourproductsucks2 topcommenter

I did not catch how the advisory board will be chosen nor what their role will be.

danzigsdaddy
danzigsdaddy topcommenter

@yourproductsucks2  do you have any idea who or how they will go about picking the 3 from MCSO for the advisory committee? will they be Joe or MCSO picked or will they have to be agreed upon?

danzigsdaddy
danzigsdaddy topcommenter

@yourproductsucks2  good to hear. i just dont get why they tried to say it was putting you guys at more risk. i thought that was a lame argument and trying to make it sound worse than it is

yourproductsucks2
yourproductsucks2 topcommenter

stating the reason for the stop prior to making the stop is nothing more than a procedural change..it is virtually meaningless and no one will be affected by it.

danzigsdaddy
danzigsdaddy topcommenter

i am not trying to argue, i just want a police perspective on it (not the one the lawyers gave, unless that is how you really feel) some of the stuff, i figured some of you would welcome with open arms, some of it not so much

danzigsdaddy
danzigsdaddy topcommenter

@yourproductsucks2  quick question for you YPS, whats the general feeling at MCSO about some of the stuff Snow put into effect? especially the reporting why a pull over before approaching the driver? do a lot of you feel it is putting you at a higher risk? i am for it, i just wondered your agencies feeling on it

yourproductsucks2
yourproductsucks2 topcommenter

as long as you can justify attacking the obviously mentally ill I suppose it's ok to continue to do so. carry onYou agree the root of the problem is the same. the ruling has no effect on the root of the problem.

MaskedMagician1967
MaskedMagician1967 topcommenter

Just wait until the DOJ is done with the old man. There likely will be 2 or more monitors watching the hateful old man musicman.

Of course, he's costing taxpayers a fortune to defend himself and MCSO from the undefendable.

I wonder if the DOJ will employ Judge Snow's rulings in their lawsuit....

Dontbelieveit
Dontbelieveit topcommenter

@robert_grahamcracker Yes and just maybe begin to remove the stigma of FEAR that this ASSHOLE  has instilled in the GOOD PEOPLE OF  MARICOPA COUNTY!!!!

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