Will Arizona Voters Approve Gay Marriage in 2016?

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Well, same-sex marriage probably won't be legal in Arizona until 2016, at the earliest.

A ballot initiative to put the issue on 2014 ballots stopped before it really got started, due to problems with funding.

See also:
-Gay Marriage Group Stops Effort to Get "Equal Marriage" on Arizona Ballots

"While the initiative received broad support among those in the LGBT community, as well as from individuals across the political spectrum, several state and national groups working for marriage equality advised that they would not support the effort mostly out of concerns about timing," a statement from Equal Marriage Arizona said. "Those groups have expressed interest in working with representatives of EMA on a possible 2016 campaign, which EMA would also support."

Maybe it was a little too optimistic to expect voters to overturn their 2008 decision, which amended the Arizona Constitution to read, "Only a union of one man and one woman shall be valid or recognized as a marriage in this state."

So, do you think voters will approve same-sex marriage in 2016?

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ultramediacorp
ultramediacorp

You are a sperm cell swimming in your gay lovers colon.  If I asked you, "Can merge (Marry) your DNA (seed) with what ever you run into in there as one flesh like heterosexuals can??  I don't really care WHAT some federal Judge says,
GOD says, YOU SWIM THE OTHER WAY, ELSE YOU'LL BE IN A WORLD 
OF SHIT! 

ultramediacorp
ultramediacorp


Marriage AS IT SHOULD BE DEFINED IS BETWEEN ONE MAN AND ONE WOMAN. There used to be a very practical reason for defining it that way and it was because the heterosexual relationship was unique out of all the rest. 

That is to say the heterosexual couple is NOT equal to the Homosexual couple.  


It seemed every time the Church would betroth two people in Holy Matrimony a stunning revelation occurred.  A Revelation that is responsible for your very lives.   Males were not being responsible for sewing their oats  and many Children ended up Orphaned.  A ceremony was created and borrowed from the traditional Judaic Christian idea for betrothal and the Government for the first time, agreed with the Church on keeping the distinction between this and any other type of sexual relationship, identified using the french word Marriage and Natural Law using the author Vatel who wrote the book titled “Laws of Nations”. 

Vatel gave a comprehensive argument for Natural Law and why it MUST supercede Mans Municipal Law.  There was a very good reason for this and that is so Man would not have authority over other men as the final authority and that our rights came from our creator and  NOT Man.  One of the Natural Laws observed in Nature according to Vatel is also described in the Bible when a man takes a wife and consummates their covenant during the sex act,  The male seed (DNA)  has the potential to MERGE, or the French meaning “Marriage” as one flesh, in only one type of sexual coupling that being the heterosexual type relationship.     

Most Americans have no memory why this word was so important and it was the Government's interest in making sure this civil union contract was recognized by adding the word Marriage to the Blacks Law Dictionary as the legal definition that would later become known as One man and One woman.

The reasons for protecting marriage and making it sacrosanct, are under attack and Americans are really doing themselves and the country great harm.  This is very important and it was something Natural Law enforced so there's no way anyone would be able to alter its meaning.  The problem was, that these kinds of sexual relationships caused a lot of hardship on the families that come about as a result of this UNIQUE sexual relationship type. 

Parents, usually the one living longest (females) who stayed home, many sacrificing careers and the subsequent pension plans they otherwise might have been afforded, were relinquished through great personal sacrifice to raise families.  

Today, it costs the average Family, $218,000 dollars to raise a child to age 18.   But there were more reasons the Marriage Contract got more refined as marriage laws were created to deal with many of the issues ONLY this type of sexual union was unfairly burdened with.  Tax Breaks to help families feed their young and a growing problem of inbreeding as Many Americans were marrying first cousins and many in polygamist groups had many moms with siblings of half brothers and half sisters.  This created a real mess with babies having Downs Syndrome and various other birth defects.   To put an end to the problem and to foster an America that had a genetically strong population, one would have to qualify to get this license and take a blood test to make sure you weren’t marrying your DNA with a half sister you didn’t know you had.  Restrictions were added limiting the Marriage to One Man and One woman, so there could be no conflict of interest in the marriage contract.  This was also done for one of the other problems these types of relationships have and that is DIVORCE.  

Marriage made the two entering into this contract, , legally obligated by the laws prescribed by marriage so they would be responsible for any offspring that often came as a result of this kind of sexual orientation.  To make sure they covered everyone, 
no mandate to have children was ever expected for those applying for the license BUT was a safety net INCASE, they did have any children. 

Since NO other type of sexual relationship had the potential to marry (Merge) their DNA with that of their partner, Marriage became an American Icon and tradition garnering the respect of Government Licensed and Religion approved sexual couples who by their own volition eventually were seen as more responsible than most and were involved in much more than just a sexual thing but began families which is about a love FAR more worthy of our making and deserves the RESPECT marriage has in that context, 

The idea that Gays want to ride the coattails of legitimacy of heterosexual marriage, will not get them any respect.  They are without the sacrifices, without concern for the precedent that destroys the meaning of the legal term, which will no longer have a distinction for Government to track the fatherless orphaned kids come right back again, the Males deny responsibility and the guilt by association to anything Gays have ever hijacked, always diminished the original meaning to something (with all due respect) “Gay” or to be more specific,” LAME “ .   

This is what has happened in France and why the French have become so angry at the Homosexual community.  Same with Russia and now Putin just passed a law making any talk about promoting gay sex Illegal.   As history has shown us time and time again, society completely unravels the moment you give these perverts an inch, they will take a mile.

Now you might want to know why this is happening and why it will also happen here. 

Because it is NOT Natural Law,  Rome tried it and by the time of Caligula, Rome became so sexually debased and depraved, woman were almost made extinct and were treated like garbage.  Today, you see it already in Gay discussion Boards and how they behave when allowed to be what they call, “Openly Gay”.  So, Government in its interest to protect society from any harm that might come from the sacrifices parents must make in raising the future of America, decided to help by agreeing with the Church in this regard because it benefited society as a whole.  In other words, there had to be something in it for all of us in society to agree to this.  So you see, hetero sexual couples made quite a mess before the idea of marriage and the subsequent marriage laws, came about especially broken marriages where it really helped the most because often times there were children involved.

It was read aloud on the house floor in the 1970’s and as we have seen in lockstep with all the other anti american Amoral ideas the Satanic Grand PoohBah in the white house has done.  YOU CAN NOT bring an empire like Rome, DOWN until you break them and demoralize the masculine, and masculinize the feminine.  

You must break up the Family unit which was traditionally headed by males.  The Feminists and Gays have done a great job screwing that up to debase the family through public access television and our schools filling them with  hypersexualized Young Teachers.   They all know you must mock and ridicule the country’s dominant religious philosophy as NO religion endorsed Homosexuality and ALL societies that have EVER given it Government approval, did it at great sacrifice.  

It may not impact you personally but how it impacts society as a whole, definately will impact all of us .   

ultramediacorp
ultramediacorp

CAN PIGS FLY? 


Yeah that’s the thing about Natural Law or the Laws of nature,  We can make man made laws saying Pigs can fly like the birds but nature will ban it and pigs will never fly.  The birds can try to explain this to the pigs and the pigs will call the birds haters and bigots but regardless of any alleged hatred and bigotry, Nature will still Ban it and Pigs will not fly.  We can INCLUDE PIGS in the bird definition to placate the pigs but still they will never fly and like the homosexuals do, using infertile couples who can not have children as an excuse they should be married, these pigs would no doubt cite the Ostrich as a bird that can not fly to allow them the same rites as birds and now we have set a precedent where common sense legal terms defined by the natural marriage of two peoples DNA, will have the same meaning for homosexuals.  

Look, a damn turd sitting in some homosexuals colon and laced with his gay lovers sperm does not a marriage of their dna make, because  Natural law or the laws of Nature ie; GOD, has  BANNED IT.  

We should laugh at the ridiculous queers and their silly attempts to have the benefits of something they have no business being involved in, much less deserve.    


They think the womb has nothing on the THE RECTUM and that the bacteria laden gay bowel with its numerous bath house sex partners is a multiplier for the most antibiotic resistant  diseases via horizontal gene transfer, has wrought on society.  HIV /AIDS, MRSA where to this day 1 in 5 gays will have HIV by age 50 according to the CDC.

They want us to believe that sexual penetration of  this same filthy orifice, is as suitable a place for the male seed as the womb.  That the rectum, with its foul smelling,  bacteria ridden, disease prone, fruitless union, should be respected with the same dignity as the womb having the potential to bring forth human life and a love much more worthy of our making,.


The love of children and help for Families that require a LOT more sacrifice and responsibility as the ONLY sexual type relationship, with the potential to make children that benefit all of us.  We get absolutely NOTHING from the same sex counterfeit  marriage.


If you care about this Country, its laws and the Constitution, you may understand why,, Marriage was never about homsexuals, doesn’t apply to them and was never supposed to.

If Gay people would like to create a civil union contract and a special day or ceremony to commemorate their “special love”, they should INVENT ONE  and not hijack this one.  More than that however, it is a Nation Destroyer, and gays don’t give a shit

and is why it never should be, about them

NO,,NOT EVER

BenDover
BenDover

The power of hate in this state cannot be stopped until the nasty old fat white people decide to move to South Carolina.

OATHKEEPER1958
OATHKEEPER1958

1 Cor 6:9 "Or do you not know that the unrighteous shall not inherit the kingdom of God? Do not be deceived; neither fornicators, nor idolaters, nor adulterers, nor effeminate, nor homosexuals"

Vyto Starinskas
Vyto Starinskas

Grow up Arizona. Vermont has had civil unions for gay residents for years. Marriage for years. No one even notices. Except the people affected who can now live in peace. Isn't that nice? I am moving to Arizona. It's like moving back in time.

Ra Ra
Ra Ra

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Debbie L Douglas
Debbie L Douglas

No. Arizona leads the pack on the most conservative States.

Barbie MacBride
Barbie MacBride

I asked God and he replied "There IS no such thing. " End of discussion. This is NOT "our" call . . . .

Amy Bear
Amy Bear

YYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEESSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSS

Sindi Stack
Sindi Stack

Most of them don't want a real wedding. They just need to be recognized as a committed couple legally. This would contain health coverage, taxes, property etc. My friends just want something in writing that would be legal and not really a marriage.

Steve Larson
Steve Larson

Why is it an issue in the first place? It's nobody's goddamn business but the people who wanna get married.

Tara Almond
Tara Almond

Who gives a shit if it's ready? Was the south ever ready to end slavery?

Jeannette Passaretti
Jeannette Passaretti

Which is exactly why you never hear the right-wing quoting Barry Goldwater anymore. They have embraced the fundamentalists and taken their radical agenda as their own, because all that talk about "morality" (their version) is a super-duper, easy-peasy way to inFOXtrinate.

Luis Antonio Salazar
Luis Antonio Salazar

to much corruption in this State. If your in a wealthy neighborhood your vote counts. If your in a poor neighborhood your vote never existed.

Susan Martin
Susan Martin

I doubt it highly.....based on Joe still being in office (same people will vote this down) BUT I can dream! And I am just another straight person who thinks everyone should be able to marry!

Sam Jabbour
Sam Jabbour

Tea party groups choose to stand mute on same-sex marriage ruling By Sandhya Somashekhar Washington Post Staff Writer Tuesday, July 13, 2010; 6:41 AM While many conservative organizations immediately decried a federal judge's decision last week to invalidate the federal ban on recognizing gay marriages, tea party groups have been conspicuously silent on the issue. The silence is by design, activists with the loosely affiliated movement said, because it is held together by an exclusive focus on fiscal matters and its avoidance of divisive social issues such as abortion and gay marriage. Privately, though, many said they back the decision because it emphasizes the legal philosophy of states' rights.

Robin Scott Andress
Robin Scott Andress

Tucson and the Phoenix area certainly are. But we have a legislature full of right wing homophobes and Mormons. But I repeat myself.

Ricky Goltz
Ricky Goltz

Not to say I wouldn't help to fight for equality! I always vote.

Ricky Goltz
Ricky Goltz

It would be awesome to have equality of marriage in Arizona! UNFORTUNATELY...this state is filled with right-wing, red-ass retiree Republican BUSH whackers! Our wonderful congressman Jeff Flake voted to amend the Constitution and BAN same-sex marriage! John McCain is an ardent supporter to ban it also (even though his wife tries to convince him otherwise...the lobbyists still have more influence). Until the politics in this state change and the red retirees die off this is too hard of a proposition to pass. I'm sure everyone recalls the "Keep Marriage Sacred" commercials they aired the last time this was up for vote.

Mike Mattingly
Mike Mattingly

Majority rule, minority rights. Shouldn't be up to a vote should be protected by constitution which is law not religious books.

Greg Guerrero
Greg Guerrero

AZ still hangs horse thieves and is majority republican and morman; sorry Charlie better luck next time

Jeffsfla
Jeffsfla

@HILLFOLKREDNECK I went and read 1Cor 6:9.  You seem to have done some editing.  This is the problem with traditionalists such as yourself.  You like to play with GOD's pen and ink.

ultramediacorp
ultramediacorp

Oh bullshit, there was fag marriages during Caligula's reign in pagan roman times and we know what happened with that

BenDover
BenDover

@Barbie MacBride ..................Barbie goes for a ride on her unicorn every day and at the end of October goes into the pumpkin patch to wait for the great pumpkin.

OATHKEEPER1958
OATHKEEPER1958

@Barbie MacBrideAMEN, FINALLY SOME FOLKS WITH SENSE.  AGREE 100%

1 Cor 6:9 "Or do you not know that the unrighteous shall not inherit the kingdom of God? Do not be deceived; neither fornicators, nor idolaters, nor adulterers, nor effeminate, nor homosexuals"

THE_JUDGE
THE_JUDGE

@Barbie MacBrideyeah you don't sound like a fucking nut......"asked god"!?!?!  your right to vote should be taken away.  Doesn't everyone have the right to be as miserable as your husband ? People like you make me sick.

Jeffsfla
Jeffsfla

@Sindi Stack  The LGBT community tried to obtain civil unions.  But NOOOO....the Moral Majority and the Christian Coalition would have nothing to do with it.  Now they are paying the price for their firm stance.  SSMarriage will soon be legal in all 50 states. 

ultramediacorp
ultramediacorp

Natural law makes no distinctions for such idiotic ideas as same sex marriage 

ultramediacorp
ultramediacorp

yeah yeah tell it to that God you reject, when he bans it because marrying (merging) your seed (DNA) as one flesh with that of your fag lover is not only impossible, it is a BIOLOGICAL FACT that it is. 

This isn't about "Marriage Equality" anymore than it could be about flying bird equality if you are a pig and not a bird.   Nature makes no distinctions for such absurd ideas as Marriage Equality, especially when there is no comparison to the heterosexual capacity and potential to bring fourth human life and a love FAR more worthy of our making.   Quit trying to shoe horn your sexual bent into a definition you have neither the equipment for nor the potential at all.  

ultramediacorp
ultramediacorp

@THE_JUDGE  and people like you make me sick.  You got a problem with her belief in God and SHE has a problem with queers thinking they can merge (marry) the male seed (DNA) with that of their partner as one flesh.  It's like asking us to believe pigs can fly. 

motoroftheworld
motoroftheworld

@THE_JUDGE I'm with you judge, if they aren't asking invisible wizards for advice and then dropping bombs all over the world, they're voting themselves more money, committing crimes and generally taking my country into the third world, and I'm stuck in the middle having to listen to jesus freaks and be the keeper of my rapidly expanding family of loser brothers. hey judge, watch out for your cornhole, bud.

ultramediacorp
ultramediacorp

@motoroftheworld @THE_JUDGE 

Ironic how the only time you atheists and queers and liberals, acknowledge this must be a Christian Nation only when it suits you in bashing the Country or blaming us for all the wars.  By the way, Hoss, I wouldn't concern myself with that third world country you keep whining about.

it was Christians who brought this Nation to the most prominent nation in all history, and if you queers had a hand in that effort, then I guess we owe you a debt of gratitude.  But whether they did or not,, 

it wouldn't have made a bit 

of a difference 

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