Trent Franks Is Calling for an "Authorization of Military Force" Against Iran

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Just in case talk of military action against one country wasn't enough, Republican Congressman Trent Franks is here with more loose talk of war.

Franks announced that he plans to introduce a resolution authorizing the use of military force against Iran.

Here's Franks' statement, from his office:
"We must handle the nuclear threat in Iran with a more focused and proactive policy than we used in responding to the chemical threat in Syria. It has been eight years since I first stood on the House floor and called for Iran to be referred to the U.N. Security Council for their pursuit of nuclear weapons. At the time, Iran had approximately 150 centrifuges capable of enriching uranium. Today, Iran has over 15,000. Reports estimate Tehran could have a functional nuclear weapons capability within the year, and the IAEA reports Iran has already manufactured enough low-enriched uranium to, if enriched further, produce at least 20 nuclear warheads.

"When Secretary Kerry made the case for military action in Syria, he said Iran and North Korea would closely watch how the United States handles the crisis. While true, it's also certain that Assad has been watching the Obama administration's willingness to overlook the nuclear threat in Iran for years, and therefore assumed Syria's own chemical threat would also be swept under the rug.

"If we authorize the use of military force now, it will strengthen the President's hand in in any potential talks with Iran. If we do not, the President may rely on reactionary efforts, much like the debacle in Syria. For the sake of our national security, the security of our allies, and global stability, more generally, we must have every option available in advance."

"If the world's largest state sponsor of terrorism gains a weaponized nuclear capacity, we will have failed our fundamental responsibility to guard America's national security."
Notice how he doesn't directly call for bombing Iran to hell, he just wants the option to do so.

He just wants to "strengthen the President's hand in in any potential talks with Iran." Is that how diplomacy works?

Maybe it's not such a bad idea for Franks just to stick to his abortion schtick. In case Franks didn't notice, the American public's not down with bombing Syria -- which he pretty clearly advocates in his statement above -- so it's hard to imagine people being more receptive to bombing Iran.

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DPSnAZ
DPSnAZ

I'm stunned! No mention of abortion in this letter?!

eric.nelson745
eric.nelson745 topcommenter

It certainly is counter-intuitive that Trent would be behind anything that might conceivable help Obama. I expect that the resolution won't even make it out of committee. Even Trent's Republican colleagues and well aware that he's a nut case. This is probably the last we hear about it.

Brian Curry
Brian Curry

Geez, it never ends ... Make sure he is in the lead for the first "boots on the ground".

slappy
slappy

Franks, McCain, and belle Graham,  need to go for a ride much like Slim Pickens did  in Dr. Strangelove.  I can see it now, McCain would ride it in like that mad cowboy he thinks he is - while Franks and Graham would sit sidesaddle. 

dennis20
dennis20 topcommenter

The sad thing here is that Arizona's economy depends on making weapons.  That is one reason why McCain and Franks get re-elected.  We become dependent on war and private prisons to pay our mortgages etc... 

Granted, the tax dollars could be used for schools, education and infrastructure but the Tea Party looks at those programs as socialism which is why they refuse to pass a work bill. Tax dollars pouring into private industries making weapons don't feel like welfare even though it is. 

bugzbunny
bugzbunny

"Politicians hide themselves away They only started the war Why should they go out to fight? They leave that role to the poor, yeah""

Cozz
Cozz topcommenter

Tell you what Franks, you want war, BE ON THE FRONT LINES, you dumb, stupid fucker.

asdfasdf
asdfasdf

Trent Franks is truly an idiot.  If he wants to authorize the use of military force he should be issued and M-16 and dropped off on the Iranian border to do whatever it is he wants to do.  He's big on sending other people off to war to die but personally he has no interest in getting shot at.

Chris Bates
Chris Bates

I bet this has something to with abortion

David Tomasi
David Tomasi

Franks is one of those republicans that thinks life begins at conception and ends at birth. So, no one in Iran is actually alive.

Chip Wilson
Chip Wilson

Of course he'll be leading the charge in the battlefield...freakin' coward.

Troy Farah Faucet
Troy Farah Faucet

Haven't you been paying attention? Iran totally called us a slut behind our back and now Tommy won't go to the dance with us. AND now they're not invited to our birthday party.

Jonathan Dufern
Jonathan Dufern

Wait..... What is it Iran did to the USA again that we need war against them?

MaskedMagician1967
MaskedMagician1967 topcommenter

Franks is an idiot, plain and simple.

Obama has already requested permission from Congress to start war with Syria if they fail to comply with Russia and the U.S.

Joe Kennedy
Joe Kennedy

Trent Frank's needs to be bitch slapped.

ReggieVV
ReggieVV

The day Obama needs diplomatic help from an idiot like "womb police," Franks is the day pigs fly out of the rear of John McCain. More progress will be made with Iran with a five minute hello at the UN next week than all the warmongering, neo con resolutions Franks can copy from Don Rumsfeld.

jataga5000
jataga5000

Sure Trent, go ahead and get your resolution because we all know that as soon as Obama is for it you Tpubs will be against it. I can't believe that there are posters on this thread who are actually trying to defend this tool. There are also a lot of posters here who don't have a clue about our nuclear history including the lost nukes or the Non-Proliferation Treaty. You should just listen to @Flyer9753 instead of hurling insults because you just might learn something.

royalphoenix
royalphoenix

Franks sees the price of oil going below $100 a bbl, and he is mighty concerned. peace

saltywench
saltywench

Didn't Southern Belle Lindsey Graham already do this in the Senate??  After having the vapors and needing his fainting couch, of course.

wtf....
wtf....

IDIOTS!!! is the word for the stupid politicians we have in Arizona!....keep voting republican....

shadeaux14
shadeaux14

He has tried every which way to legislate himself into women's pants without success so now, maybe this will make him look tough and get him laid. 

There's got to be a stupid blind woman somewhere in Arizona.

ReggieVV
ReggieVV

Franks is by far the most useless Congressman from Arizona. Has done nothing productive, has never contributed anything to the health and welfare of Arizona, and his never ending obsession with reproduction is an embarrassment. Don't even give the lipless wonder any publicity.

WhoKnows
WhoKnows topcommenter

Well, I'm calling for Trent Franks to finally come out of the closet and also admit he's attracted to small animals.

Flyer9753
Flyer9753 topcommenter

oy vie... what is it with Republicans??? Do they think they have to fire every munition at least once in their lifetime???

F'ing hypocrites as well, slamming Iran for something that we have and have a worse record of using than any other country on the planet... I guess I should not be surprised, since Republican hypocrisy is clearly one of the universal standards, like gravity.

I wish the current batch of Republicans would grow up and stop playing with themselves, or their 'toys' as a substitute

eric.nelson745
eric.nelson745 topcommenter

@slappy Haha, what makes you believe that Graham is light in the loafers?

ReggieVV
ReggieVV

But picking up a weapon and standing a post would never be done by a chicken hawk like Franks.

Cozz
Cozz topcommenter

@Penny Tompkins Cook  

No shit....

MaskedMagician1967
MaskedMagician1967 topcommenter

Shadeaux, perhaps GED Jan is the stupid blind woman you're referring to....

She's equally as clueless and useless as Franks.....

valleynative
valleynative topcommenter

@Flyer9753  

Our nuclear weapons are regulated by international treaty.   That makes a big difference.

As for our having a worse record of using them, that's childish.  We also have the best record for destroying stockpiles and urging other nations to control their nuclear weapons.

And, as you really should understand, he's not calling for the use of force, but to give Obama the authority that he doesn't seem to believe that he has to act as Commander in Chief if necessary.

squash
squash

@valleynative

"Our nuclear weapons are regulated by international treaty."

Are you implying that Iran has nuclear weapons that aren't being regulated by international treaty? If you are, please show legitimate evidence of your claim that they possess nuclear weapons and please do not use a neo-con or war hawk's "proof" as your evidence. As for the state(s) whose nuclear weapons aren't being regulated under the Non-Proliferation Treaty (assuming that's the international treaty you are speaking of), there are three: Israel, Pakistan, and India. I guess that means Trent Franks should introduce resolutions authorizing use of force against all three <sarcasm>. One last thing, since you brought up international treaties - according to the United Nations Charter, "All Members shall refrain in their international relations from the threat or use of force against the territorial integrity or political independence of any state" -  which means Franks' resolution would be in direct violation of an international treaty were it to pass.

Flyer9753
Flyer9753 topcommenter

@valleynative @Flyer9753 

Oh look, valleyjerk is going to try to correct me...

Like the US cares about treaties, except of course when it's in our interest too... we have already broken numerous of the nuclear treaties we have signed and are currently breaking a few daily, one namely every time one of our nuclear armed ships docks in Japan

As to our record, it is the worst and you are full of shit when you attempt to cover that up. We have destroyed less than 20% of the stockpiles we have seized. We do not urge other nations to control their nukes, Israel being a prime example of that. We are the ones making other nations think they need nukes to deal with the biggest bully and lawbreaker on the block, the United States.

We are the only country to deploy nukes against another. When we were testing nukes, we set off 3 times as many as any other country, even though their was no need to, even according to the scientists who were designing them. We have set off several in tests that caused contamination of populations, human populations, even though we knew ahead of time it would happen. 

We have deliberately exposed people to not only fallout, but radiation via lab or other testings after lying to them or not even getting permission for the testing of any type in the first place.

Wake the fuck up Valley and get an education on the REAL history of the world and this country, because the fairy tale you are spinning is far from reality.

WhoKnows
WhoKnows topcommenter

@valleynative @WhoKnows @Flyer9753  I've interviewed "C Programers" that were unable to write K+R's "hello world" program.  Needless to say, they were not hired. (you don't do device drivers in "Oops"!)

valleynative
valleynative topcommenter

@WhoKnows @Flyer9753  

What I see regularly is people who don't understand how their code works, because 90% of it relies upon library Objects and they haven't bothered to read the documentation.

Flyer9753
Flyer9753 topcommenter

@valleynative @Flyer9753

"Don't put words in my mouth.  You don't have the education for it.  Dropping nukes on Japan justified to bureaucrats and politicians all the money that had been spent on developing the bomb.  It had no military value."

Actually this is also false. It had immense military value to the people at the time, who only cared about showing the soviets and world that we had and would use the bomb.

We knew ahead of time it would do nothing to help bring about the end of the war. We knew it would not force a Japanese surrender. We knew it would kill thousands and continue to be felt throughout generations to come.

We killed thousands of non-combatants, innocents, just to send a message to the world that we could be cruel and would commit mass murder and war crimes against innocents - against treaties we signed - to make a point...

Such a wonderful thing we did...

Flyer9753
Flyer9753 topcommenter

@valleynative @WhoKnows @Flyer9753

Oh Valley, one more thing about our record regarding nukes... do you want to have a discussion about the fully functional nukes the US has LOST?? 

"March 10, 1956. A B-47 carrying two nuclear weapon cores from MacDill Air Force Base in Florida to an overseas airbase disappeared during a scheduled air-to-air refueling over the Mediterranean Sea. After becoming lost in a thick cloud bank at 14,500 feet, the plane was never heard from again and its wreckage, including the nuclear cores, was never found. Although the weapon type remains undisclosed, Mark 15 thermonuclear bombs (commonly carried by B-47s) would have had a combined yield of 3.4 megatons."

"January 24, 1961. A B-52 carrying two 24-megaton nuclear bombs crashed while taking off from an airbase in Goldsboro, North Carolina. One of the weapons sank in swampy farmland, and its uranium core was never found despite intensive search efforts to a depth of 50 feet. To ensure no one else could recover the weapon, the USAF bought a permanent easement requiring government permission to dig on the land."

"Spring, 1968. While returning to home base in Norfolk, Virginia, the U.S.S. Scorpion, a nuclear attack submarine, mysteriously sank about 400 miles to the southwest of the Azores islands. In addition to the tragic loss of all 99 crewmembers, the Scorpion was carrying two unspecified nuclear weapons "“ either anti-submarine missiles or torpedoes that were tipped with nuclear warheads. These could yield up to 250 kilotons explosive power (depending which kind of weapon was used)."

There are more.. but I guess it's just going to be 'ancient history' when that material or those nukes resurface in someone elses hands...

Oh yeah.. the US has such a good nuclear record...

ExpertShot
ExpertShot topcommenter

@Flyer9753 @WhoKnows  Hey Valley.  Tell the Hibakusha (survivors of the US Nuclear attacks on Japan and the various Islands in the Pacific (where the US destroyed the lands and lives of a number of people who were living on those islands)) that it was ancient history valley.  Or tell the Native American survivors of uranium mining it's ancient history (our taxpayer monies are still paying for these mistakes). Or tell the survivors of the use of depleted uranium weapons in Iraq and Kuwait (including our own soldiers) that radiactive weapons are ancient history.  They'll listen and then they'll spit in your face! 

http://www.voanews.com/content/japan-marks-68th-anniversary-of-hiroshima-nuclear-bombing/1724114.html

Flyer9753
Flyer9753 topcommenter

@WhoKnows

"Wumpus for me.  But not until we got this new fangled thing called "Unix"."

Oh I remember Wumpus... yeah that was before unix, when you loaded the program into memory manually via direct register access... fun things happened when you misset a switch :)

WhoKnows
WhoKnows topcommenter

@Flyer9753 @WhoKnows And in the "ancient history" debate, in those days, stuff was written to be small and efficient.  Today, people don't care if they take and extra meg or 3.  And it shows in the quality of some SW today.

Flyer9753
Flyer9753 topcommenter

@WhoKnows @Flyer9753 

I remember then we used to actually get excited about a 64kbit memory upgrade that cost over 10k - now we could care less :)

WhoKnows
WhoKnows topcommenter

@Flyer9753 @WhoKnows Wumpus for me.  But not until we got this new fangled thing called "Unix".

valleynative
valleynative topcommenter

@Flyer9753 @valleynative @WhoKnows  

Jesus that's stupid.

It can be knowledge and still be ancient history, you know? right?  

When the event occurred is what matters, not that impacts still exist.

WhoKnows
WhoKnows topcommenter

@Flyer9753 The first language I learned was PDP-11 assembler.  Then Fortran.

WhoKnows
WhoKnows topcommenter

@valleynative @WhoKnows @Flyer9753 Andriod runs on a Linux Kernel.  Which, for all intent and purposes is a Unix Kernel..  And yes, you can access the registers, just like you can with an old PDP-11!  It's just today YOU DON'T HAVE to as a user!

Flyer9753
Flyer9753 topcommenter

@valleynative @WhoKnows @Flyer9753 

No valley they are not ancient history, they are knowledge.

Also, comparing computers, which I will agree have a short life - to a nuclear event which has a loonnnngggg half-life , not just life, HALF-LIFE, not to mention the generation spanning genetic problems exposure leads to, is like trying to compare a chihuahua to an elephant.

Flyer9753
Flyer9753 topcommenter

@WhoKnows

"PDP-11's"

That is the comp I started on!!! Small world!

Actually telex machines before that technically, but still :)

valleynative
valleynative topcommenter

@WhoKnows @valleynative @Flyer9753  

And you can say with a straight face, that such things aren't "ancient history" in terms of modern hardware/software?   You lose a lot of credibility by doing so.

WhoKnows
WhoKnows topcommenter

@valleynative @WhoKnows @Flyer9753 PDP-11's.  Loading the monitor enough to read from a card reader or paper tape.  There was often a monitor in rom in early system, and the front panel switches were often used to set the address to start run at, and maybe the channel of the card reader/tape reader.  Trust me, I've "bootstrapped" more computers than you can count! (And I bet you couldn't count them in octal!)

valleynative
valleynative topcommenter

@WhoKnows @valleynative @Flyer9753  

You apparently don't understand the terms I'm using. I'm talking about true bootstrapping, from which bootstrap sectors get their names.  Much like "core" comes from the old magnetic cores.

I guess you've never bootstrapped from the front panel.  I have.

WhoKnows
WhoKnows topcommenter

@valleynative @WhoKnows @Flyer9753 

Wow! You are CLEARLY babbling about stuff you don't understand!  "Bootstrapping" still happens TODAY on computers. Try unlocking the boot loader on Andriod!  You never knew about the boot sector on disk or in "core", did you?

valleynative
valleynative topcommenter

@WhoKnows @valleynative @Flyer9753  

No, the computer in your phone isn't really comparable to a mainframe.  It's much closer to a Unix box.   Fifty years ago, you would have had to bootstrap load your computer, possibly starting with front panel switches. You do see, don't you, that calling memory "core" isn't really the same thing?

WhoKnows
WhoKnows topcommenter

@valleynative @WhoKnows @Flyer9753 Tell to take to me about memory management and virtual memory?  Memory is still called "core" in many environments, even today.  Look up "core dumps" on Unix and Linux.  It's called KNOWLEDGE!


The computer in my phone would have filled a room 30 years ago (if it could even be done), but in many ways, functions just like a 30 year old mainframe!

valleynative
valleynative topcommenter

@WhoKnows @valleynative @Flyer9753  

Yes, some concepts still apply, just as the design of the Wright Bros wing still applies.  But unless you're still using magnetic core memory and writing to drum storage don't try to pretend that you don't see my point.

WhoKnows
WhoKnows topcommenter

@valleynative @Flyer9753 Valley/YPS.  I've been in the computer industry for almost 40 years, and things I learned 40 years ago still apply TODAY.  It's not "ancient history".  It's KNOWLEDGE.

valleynative
valleynative topcommenter

@Flyer9753

Don't put words in my mouth.  You don't have the education for it.  Dropping nukes on Japan justified to bureaucrats and politicians all the money that had been spent on developing the bomb.  It had no military value.

Flyer9753
Flyer9753 topcommenter

@valleynative @Flyer9753

"In the history of nuclear weaponry, as in the history of computers, space exploration, and most other high tech fields, 50 years ago is ancient history."

BULLSHIT!

valleynative
valleynative topcommenter

@Flyer9753 @valleynative  

In the history of nuclear weaponry, as in the history of computers, space exploration, and most other high tech fields, 50 years ago is ancient history.

You should realize that.

Flyer9753
Flyer9753 topcommenter

@valleynative @Flyer9753 

Since when is within the last generation, and still affecting THIS generation, ancient history??????

Yes, I will tell you to get an education, and you just proved beyond a shadow of a doubt you need one.

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