Joe Arpaio's Deputies: Can They Chew Gum and Drive at the Same Time?

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Operating on the assumption that not all MCSO deputies are as lame as their organization's titular tyrant and his immediate underlings, I apologize in advance to those beige-shirts who, contrary to this blog's header, can chew gum and drive at the same time.

My title's query is prompted by the MCSO's latest filings in the ACLU's racial profiling lawsuit Melendres v. Arpaio, which Arpaio lost, big time, in May, when federal Judge G. Murray Snow found Arpaio's agency guilty of prejudiced policing toward Latinos and ordered it to stop.

Problem is, Arpaio and his flunkies have yet to get it it through their thick skulls that they've been a bad sheriff's office and will have to do what Judge Snow says in regard to enforcing his final order, like, accepting a court-appointed monitor.

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Joe Arpaio Doesn't Get His New Monitor . . . Yet

During the most recent status conference in Melendres, occurring on August 30, both sides discussed how MCSO deputies one day will record their stops, even when there is no arrest or citation, something the parties have already agreed to in principle.

What's to keep a deputy from making up a reason for a stop after the fact? Especially when said deputy works for a law enforcement agency with a reputation for institutional bigotry and dishonesty?

Read MCSO Chief Deputy Jerry Sheridan's objections to Judge Snow's suggestion.
Read MCSO attorney Tim Casey's memo on the same subject.

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Arpaio: incapable of taking his medicine like a man...

(Keep in mind that the MCSO was caught destroying evidence of stops that occurred during Arpaio's immigration sweeps, and as a result, the defense was sanctioned by the court.)

Snow offered this suggestion: have the officer call in the reason for a stop before he or she pulls over a vehicle.

Read the plaintiffs' response to the defense's complaints.
Read law enforcement expert Robert Stewart's declaration on the same subject.

Arpaio's lead attorney Tim Casey indicated that the MCSO might have legitimate law enforcement objections to Snow's recommendation. So Snow ordered that Casey submit a three page memo explaining any objections, and the plaintiffs would then reply to that memo with their own three pager, excluding any exhibits.


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eric.nelson745
eric.nelson745 topcommenter

I can think of two police departments that had federal monitors:

1. L.A. following the Ramparts Division scandal. William Bratton (ex-Boston police chief and New York police commissioner was hired to clean house).

2. New Orleans after the lawlessness of their officers during and following Katrina (a large number of cops simple deserted their posts as the hurricane was approaching, among other things).

DNichols
DNichols

Arpaio, and his "Underlings" know they have been a "Bad Sheriffs Office", they pride themselve's on Corruption, Bigotry, Wrongful Deaths of Humans in their Torture Chambers/Jails.

Arpaio has proven that he personally should stop walking to talk, or suffer the sidewalk cracks revenge.

To: Corruption in Az.they currently rule the Desert Kingdom.

Cozz
Cozz topcommenter

With Arpaio and MCSO's history of destroying evidence and tampering with and deleting  video's, what are they worried about ?


They don't like what was recorded, they can always destroy it like they've always done.

robert_graham
robert_graham

What a stupid article. Lemons again is talking while he is farting.

royalphoenix
royalphoenix

Valuable radio time....that's a good one. Cameras in the car, and on their shirts. peace

danzigsdaddy
danzigsdaddy topcommenter

do dash cams have audio? if they dont, they should, and they should be running on all stops anyhow. dash cams are good for a couple reasons, they provide evidence if needed for the officers and also would be catching images that could help catch info on the vehicle and drivers of the cars they stop if those people do turn out to be dangerous to the officers, and since those cameras are hands free the officers should be able to make running commentaries as to why the stop was made. we are living in a push button technology age, there should be no problem for the judges request nor should it be a hinderance. for a guy who is claiming innocence, Joe is passing up a perfect opportunity to prove himself and his agency. this could even be remedied with something as simple as a wireless headset. i have seen police of all different agencies driving down the road while using their computers and entering and reading the info on them, so why exactly is saying something aloud to a radio that much more distracting or time consuming?

Dontbelieveit
Dontbelieveit

Here billy billy .............here billy billy billy..........Hey BILLY GOAT MAN wut happened to your post with the phone #?????????????

Dontbelieveit
Dontbelieveit

HILLFOLKREDNECK  Hey.............when did the United States become  YOUR COUNTRY? Last I checked it belongs to the WHOLE HUMAN RACE........You NEVER FOUGHT FOR IT .... EXCEPT FIGHTING FOR FOOD STAMPS AND WELFARE GO FUCK ONE OF YOUR BILLY -goats or one of your sisters. YOUR COUNTRY..............I"M SO SURE!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! Your fucking STUPID!

dennis20
dennis20 topcommenter

During the sweeps, MCSO deputies routinely call in a plate, and often the make and model  before they even pull over a vehicle. I know this from monitoring their scanner as well as observing the stops.  

For anyone to believe it's too difficult to also announce why they are stopping and/or pursuing the vehicle is complete nonsense. Often they followed a vehicle with a spanish radio station bumper sticker.  They also aren't the only police agency racially profiling but this lawsuit could set a precedent and force other LE agencies to follow better standards. 


danzigsdaddy
danzigsdaddy topcommenter

@robert_graham  why do you support it? do you realize how hard it will be to make it stick in a court of law? the burden of proof lies in proving you were fully aware they were illegal (same problem we run into with people hiring illegals, too hard to prove they knew, so nobody seems to be arresting them), and lastly, do you realize its just rewording a law that has been in effect already? having knowledge of a crime and not reporting it is a crime in itself, so if you know they are illegal and arent reporting them (whether they are in your car or not) is illegal anyways.  the big problem is proving that knowledge. and here in Maricopa county we dont even make an attempt to prove it (just ask Montgomery, he has said that NOBODY (and that includes Joe) has presented him with any of those employer cases that i referred to. another pointless law put forth by pointless people trying to make it seem like they are doing something about a problem while doing NOTHING, just as they have been doing all along

IdontRecall
IdontRecall

@robert_graham,,,jaffyboi....bwa ha ha ha ha, i guess u r too late in "news", that bullshit that is coming out of ur mouth was suggested like.....what....shit, i can't put my finger on it now....but it's some time ago......n-way, u r a fucking moron. It'll never happen, bitch. U shold b concerned about finding what r u going 2 do after SAGGY BALLS is taken out to pasture at HILLFOLK'S hillside, and that's happening very soon, by way of a wheel chair, after he "falls" again. LOL.

WhoKnows
WhoKnows topcommenter

@robert_graham The US House passed a bill which will NEVER become law, little Jaffy.

saltywench
saltywench

@robert_graham  Wow, your superior intellect and stunning use of the English language is breathtaking.

Flyer9753
Flyer9753 topcommenter

@danzigsdaddy

Want to know why Joe REALLY doesn't want cameras, at least not ones that he can't control??

http://youtu.be/sgSfCxq0hdY

Good video overall, but pay attention to the conversation that starts at about 1:25 - his channel also has the video of the stop itself from his camera

I about laughed my ass off @ 2:35.... 

Flyer9753
Flyer9753 topcommenter

@danzigsdaddy 

Dash cams do have audio, but the problem is most are audio at the dash cam, which is meaningless since it's in the car.

Most professional departments, use a system of dashcams and body cams/mics that transmit to a locked unit in the vehicles trunk or record locally to an SD card - I know of small town departments (less than 20 officers) who have these or similar, yet big ol MCSO can't according to Joe.. it's ridiculous...

Hell, I have 2 dash cams in my personal vehicle as well as sunglass that record @ 720p (and look like regular sunglasses). You can get recorders now for $40 a piece that are smaller than a BIC lighter.

All of Joes excuses are just that, excuses and refusal to have anyone tell him what to do, at least not without him thinking he is getting something in return.

fishingblues
fishingblues topcommenter

@phxmusicman64   People that call others "stupid" (regardless of politics) should themselves learn to write English.  Your post was a disaster.  The most obvious was your incorrect use of the word "your" for "you're".

For all the liberals that went to union/government school, let me help.

'your' is possessive and 'you're' is a contraction for you are.  Therefor, one might say:  Your grammar is atrocious; thus you're the one that looks stupid.   

robert_graham
robert_graham

@robert_grahamcracker @robert_graham But it will become law -- just you wait and see.

The bill only makes no sense to people like you but it is legitimate.

I don't watch CSPAN because they are just a bunch of bias reporting. Maybe though you should turn on FOX News later for the real scoop.

allanbartlett
allanbartlett

fishfuck, your goat smells like sperm. you're a pervert.

Dontbelieveit
Dontbelieveit

@fishingblues @phxmusicman64 begging YOUR PARDON SIR But YOUR COUNTRY (MEANING HIS COUNTRY) IS EXACTLY WHAT I WANTED TO SAY !! NOT YOU ARE COUNTRY THAT DOESN'T EVEN MAKE SENSE  Mr   Super brain FUCK OFF KEYBOARD WARRIOR  or I'll bitch slap you with a CAPS LOCK!

Dontbelieveit
Dontbelieveit

@fishingblues @phxmusicman64 Opinions are Like ASSHOLES...........everybody has one .......if you don't .....well that's another story . As for my spelling I REALLY DON'T GIVE A RATS ASS IF IT'S GRAMMATICALLY CORRECT OR NOT ..I'm not here to IMPRESS ANYONE WITH MY SPELLING OR CONTRACTIONS . i'LL LEAVE THAT UP TO THE PEOPLE THAT CALL THEMSELVES THE BRAIN POLICE  .On a more serious note if'n you don't like it don't read it  can't be any worse than having a BABY bent over for an avatar............... In short FUCK YOU grammer WHIZZZZZZZZZZZZZZ

IdontRecall
IdontRecall

@fishingblues, hey fucking STUPID, u should check ur spelling b4 trying 2 correct someone's else; btw is: THEREFORE ....not therefor. It's very clear that u r d STUPID 1. Probably u r sharing d same bed with jaffy....with hillfolk in between...& a goat...ha ha ha ha. WHAT A FUCKING BUNCH OF MORONS. 

Flyer9753
Flyer9753 topcommenter

@robert_graham @Flyer9753 

ROFLMFAO!!!! HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA!!!!!

It already has DUMBASS! It's already been challenged Constitutionally and the Supremes have either not heard the cases since they did not have merit, or ruled against them.

It's ALREADY PASSED THE CONSTITUTIONAL TEST!!! 

HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA!!!!! 

You are dumb as ever JAffy

robert_graham
robert_graham

@Flyer9753 Of course it is federal. That's why it's even better.

Oh yes it will pass. But did you know that AZ is coming up with another similar bill but better and stronger.

Flyer9753
Flyer9753 topcommenter

@robert_grahamcracker @Flyer9753 @robert_graham 

haha.. I just looked at it, didn't realize it was federal (didn't actually read JAFfy's comment.. never do)... yeah, never going to pass... just another example of the do nothing obstructionist republithugs... doing nothing but their normal jerk session (pun and innuendo intended)

fishingblues
fishingblues topcommenter

@phxmusicman64   Perhaps, in the future, you will refrain from calling others "stupid". That was the point all along. 

Dontbelieveit
Dontbelieveit

@fishingbluesFREAKING ILLITERATE NIMROD ....Hey I can accept myself  and be whoever I fucking want to be . Be it nauseous like YOU or let people express themselves the way they see fit .You seem to have  a smarter than anyone complex . If that's your place in life grasp it fool .......it MAY BE  THE LAST CHANCE . I DON'T USUALLY ENGAGE IN BS ....BUT WHEN I DO I MAKE SURE IT'S WITH SOMEONE AS BRILLIANT AS YOURSELF. COULD I HAVE YOUR AUTOGRAPH MEESTER?

fishingblues
fishingblues topcommenter

phx:        Okay, I'll help.

When you said "your (sic) fucking stupid..." not "your country".  Jazus!  You can't even figure it out when it is pointed out to you.

Freaking illiterate nimrod.   Intelligent people like to improve.  Stupid people love to remain stupid and even brag about how stupid they are.  

fishingblues
fishingblues topcommenter

@IdontRecall   This from the jerk-off that is so ignorant he has to make up his own language because he can't master English.   Freaking loser.  

fishingblues
fishingblues topcommenter

@robert_grahamcracker   Hey cracker, how much less could you care?  You may not care if you are ignorant and speak/write like a fool, but you are judged daily and found lacking.   

fishingblues
fishingblues topcommenter

@robert_grahamcracker   Golly cracker you're a braggart and a dickwad.  I don' have a worthless PhD from the U. of Phoenix.  However, it doesn't matter.  I'm smarter than you.  I have a bigger dick and I made a hell of a lot more money.  And, not that it matters because you are obviously a chicken dick, I'm a whole lot tougher.

fishingblues
fishingblues topcommenter

@Flyer9753    Stupid and ignorant people that have the audacity to call others stupid should be taken to task.  

Assholes that are so insecure about their education that they call people that speak the language correctly "grammar nazis" are pathetic little shit birds.    And you are correct about one thing; you are indeed sad.  

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