Was the Story About Jan Brewer Putting "Gay-to-Straight Programs" in Schools Believable?

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In case you missed it, no, Governor Jan Brewer is not putting "gay-to-straight programs" in Arizona schools.

Tons of people fell for the fake news story that was circulated online, and many people -- including those who were fooled and those who were not -- said they wouldn't put it past Brewer to try to do something like this.

See also:
-No, Jan Brewer Is Not Putting "Gay-To-Straight Programs" in Arizona Schools
-Here Are 100 People Freaking Out Over Arizona's Fake "Gay-To-Straight Programs"

It seems a little extraordinary (to say the least), but the fake quote attributed to Brewer said, "I think this will be an amazing opportunity for gay children to finally learn who they truly are for once in their lives. Can you imagine how much more productive these 'now-straight' children will be not always being bullied or wondering why god made them defective? What we have done here today is monumental. I can only hope and pray that other states follow suit."

Brewer has made some anti-gay moments in her history, but not that extreme. You may recall that Brewer has opposed gay marriage and signed a law to end benefits for "domestic partners" of state employees.

Also, while Brewer was campaigning against Terry Goddard back in 2010, Brewer's top adviser/campaign boss Chuck Coughlin suggested that Goddard was gay.

But demanding gay schoolchildren be taught how to be straight is not something she's even considered (well, publicly, we guess).

However, some people aren't putting it past her. As for this fake news report, was there some aspect about it that you think was believable?

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89 comments
slenderman
slenderman

if i was a voter i will get the governor out of office !!!!! 

Paul Ross
Paul Ross

i'm neither vain or arrogant enough to believe that those who disagree with me politically are dumb or ill informed.

Tara Almond
Tara Almond

Gawd, her face even looks Republican.

Paul Ross
Paul Ross

anyone who believes that either party is more thoughtful or smarter than the other is suffering from delusions of grandeur, there are smart and dumb people of every political persuasion.

Dana Wittmann
Dana Wittmann

Wrong, Paul; liberals tend to think and are a lot less reactionary than, say, teapartiers

ozgur.aksoy
ozgur.aksoy

And by the way I don't hate republicans and totally supported her 1070 Mangal

Courtney Brittan
Courtney Brittan

That's not necessarily true when powerful lobbyists like Cathi Herrod exist.

Sindi Stack
Sindi Stack

No, But I wouldn't put anything past her.

Warren Klofkorn
Warren Klofkorn

Those far to the left side of American politics are probably closer to the truth than the mainstream. Americans are trained to be stupid.

Marco Cruz
Marco Cruz

Pfft, this has nothing to do with miley cyrus' ass

David Kaylor
David Kaylor

only if you are a Homophobic, race baiting Liberal Moron!

Mea Culpa
Mea Culpa

And by the way I don't hate republicans and totally supported her 1070

Mea Culpa
Mea Culpa

Yes because she doesn't understand the concept of keep your f'n religion out of my state!

Steve Sharpton
Steve Sharpton

Personally, it sounded crazy, but considering some of the lengths some Republicans are going to to get noticed, it's not too far off base. Of course, it helps to notice the source was illegitimate, much like the crazy story where Ann Coulter got angry due to a black pilot flying the plane she was on (which the website was a satire website, but a couple friends on FB actually posted it). In this new 24-hour political cycle, nothing is too crazy to believe and sometimes it has to be spelled out due to the fact the mainstream press is not too far away from this type of "reporting."

Marc Severson
Marc Severson

Yes, I had to immediately check it to make sure it was fake because it is entirely something plausible that Crazy Jan would do.

Jeff Kee
Jeff Kee

There is no left-right media, only corporate media. The only fight is for ratings. It's propaganda.

Mary Doe
Mary Doe

Yes and No. Her allegedly expressed opinion is totally believable. That it was legally possible is totally unbelievable.

yunomakemefillthisou
yunomakemefillthisou

It's a sad state of affairs when you can make up a story as ridiculous as your own state's Governor signing off on a bill that makes gay-to-straight conversion programs mandatory in all Arizona public school curriculums K-12 and no one questions it. They all believe it. Because they know if bible-thumping Jan Brewer had the chance to actually do this, she would. How evil, and that's the people in charge here in Arizona. Things need to change.

eric.nelson745
eric.nelson745 topcommenter

Hmm. I'll give her this amount of credit: She's dumb but she's not stupid.

Darin Spyderdog
Darin Spyderdog

I dont understand why the NT is grabbing on to this so hard. its not like you guys have never knowingly printed fake news or anything

George Brummer III
George Brummer III

The tv station fell for it the 2nd time. Then Brewer was suing the author. The source of the 2nd story was from the same satirical website and written by the same guy. It’s not just the general public not checking their sources. Just look at 90% of bullshit reposted on face book. People believe what they want to be true not the actual truth just doesn't matter.

Chris Brown
Chris Brown

True Mike^^ At times, I will get into discussions with people on here, who eventually show how radically left they are. As usual, when presented with actual FACTS that they can refute, the conversation turns to name calling and them calling me a "troll"..clearly New Times is the king of said trolls

Mike Gundlach
Mike Gundlach

Didn't the Times already run this. Seems like every time they need ratings/responses they mention Brewer, Bachman or anyone who will bring out the haters.

Eric Flores
Eric Flores

it was completely believable based on Brewer's reputation of hate.

Phil Oliver
Phil Oliver

I think what is telling is how hard it was to be sure it was a fake. Was it believable? Evidently, took hours to find proof it was not so...but the fact that I was willing to dig shows that at some level I believed it might be real.

Nikki Anam Cara
Nikki Anam Cara

It read like an Onion parody but the fact that so many people accepted it a real is an indication of what kind of stuff people expect as Brewer-like behavior.

Beth Simek
Beth Simek

Jan Brewer is a whole lotta wrong on a lot of things, but I just don't see her doing something like that.

Darren Tonnessen
Darren Tonnessen

The concept is believable but the "quotes" they fabricated made it obvious it was fake.

Paul Ross
Paul Ross

but also remember this is american, there is room for everyone, 9-11 truthers, Birthers, minutemen, Beck fans, Olbermann Fans... As long as you are happy and don't get into a frenzy when someone says "9-11 was an inside job" or whatever live an let live

Jenn Gise Surico
Jenn Gise Surico

I didn't believe it, I think no Governor (even her) would be that dumb. The Arpaio comments made it obvious it wasn't real.

Brent Niemerg
Brent Niemerg

EXACTLY!!! But every story about Obama/Democrats is true because they are ratbastards and are just out to destroy America!!

Paul Ross
Paul Ross

if you hate Brewer/Republicans, of course you will believe any bad press about them. if you bought into this story than you need to realize that you are probably out of the mainstream and into the far left side of american politics and it is probably clouding your judgement on many issues.

WhoKnows
WhoKnows topcommenter

@David Kaylor Uh, you seem to be lost.  Why more liberal folks were pissed about this, the right wing religious nuts where cheery and dropping to their knees to thank Bjeebus!

WhoKnows
WhoKnows topcommenter

@Mea Culpa SB1070?  The"plan" was was basically thrown out as being unconstitutional?

WhoKnows
WhoKnows topcommenter

@Paul Ross If you don't think this is at least possible from the right wing nutjobs in AZ (ie, CAP), you live in a cave and are a troll!

valleynative
valleynative topcommenter

@WhoKnows  

It's possible, and even likely, that some very few legislators would support such a thing,  but it's not really possible that it would pass the full legislature.

JohnQ.Public
JohnQ.Public

@valleynative  Sorry, still pessimistic.

valleynative
valleynative topcommenter

@JohnQ.Public  

No major corporation would ever move to Arizona if the employee's kids were going to be subjected to this nonsense.

Look at the national outcry about 1070.  There are only a very few folks in the legislature that wouldn't realize that this would be much, much worse for our economy.

JohnQ.Public
JohnQ.Public

@valleynative  I'm more pessimistic than you are about the number of loons in our legislature.

valleynative
valleynative topcommenter

@WhoKnows and on top of that, there were plenty of news articles about covenant marriage when it was going through the legislature.  It wasn't a surprise.


valleynative
valleynative topcommenter

@WhoKnows

You're comparing apples and astronauts.

Covenant marriage is entirely voluntary.   It's crazy to call it crazy.  What problem do you have with giving people the option of having a marriage that means what it meant 50 years ago if that's what they want?

valleynative
valleynative topcommenter

@JohnQ.Public  

Ok, then, no.  There are a few loons who would support it, but it would never make it to a general vote.

 

JohnQ.Public
JohnQ.Public

@valleynative  last minute strikers have been known to cause havoc - look at the $200 million alternative fuels boondoggle that was a last minute striker introduced by then House Speaker Jeff Groscost.  It was a 92 page amendment introduced the night before it was passed by the CoW.  So yes, it can happen - not likely but it can happen.  But stop focussing on the procedural aspect and consider whether substantively it is something that could gain traction in Arizona - that is the question. 

valleynative
valleynative topcommenter

@WhoKnows

If you really believe the legislature would pass something like this as a last minute amendment, you're living in a cartoon universe.

WhoKnows
WhoKnows topcommenter

@valleynative @WhoKnows It depends on what bill it's an amendment to.  That's often how bat crap crazy stuff is passed.  It's not a main bill, but a last minute amendment to another one.

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