Should MCSO Deputy Who Assaulted a Civilian Be Fired?

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Maricopa County agreed to pay out $18,000 to a FedEx worker who was attacked in 2011 by an MCSO deputy, our colleague Ray Stern reported yesterday.

Deputy Sean Edwards-El was convicted later that year of misdemeanor assault, and it appears that Edwards-El is still working for the Sheriff's Office.

See also:
-FedEx Courier to Get $18,000 in Unprovoked Assault by Maricopa Deputy

The Phoenix Police Department report from the time cites an interview with the FedEx worker, Larry Strickler, who described being attacked by Edwards-El for no apparent reason.

Edwards-El grabbed him by the throat, and shoved him about 10 feet across the FedEx distribution center, into a truck, according to the report. Other deputies saw this, too.

Strickler didn't seem to know why he was attacked, although he described Edwards-El as having a bit of a temper that day, and noted how "huge" Edwards-El was, estimating that he had packed on nearly 50 pounds of muscle over the previous eight months.

Strickler sought $150,000 in his lawsuit, but Stern reported the settlement of $18,000.

Stern didn't immediately hear back from MCSO about punishment for Edwards-El.

Between assaulting a civilian and costing the county $18,000, don't you think that this guy should be fired?

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IdontRecall
IdontRecall

MCSO seems to 2 have a patern to PROMOTE the officers that don't uphold their oath "to protect and serve", and show a bad behavior, not a surprise there, what else can B expected when the HEAD of that LEA is the MOST CORRUPT AND RACIST  "shurf" probably on the whole Country, if not the WHOLE WORLD, then the trips to Honduras would make more sense; probably to teach the Honduran police the OLD FART's technique of CORRUPTION.. IMO.

yourproductsucks
yourproductsucks

Larry Strickler should have stopped with the continual racist innuendo day after day after day...

el Edwards has always been yoked.  His physic hasnt changed since he stopped running the ball in college.

magaskins
magaskins

50 pounds of muscle in 8 months? 'Roid Rage much deputy??? How is this clown still on the job? They need to can him for abuse of an illegal substance before the ensuing tumors take over and he dies on the county dime!

bgray59
bgray59

Have some questions which I did not see in the article. 

Is he still employed as a certified Law Enforcement?

Does Misdemeanor Assault carry a maximum of 1 year or more of incarceration?

If the penalty for his conviction carries a maximum of over 1 year in jail, Sean Edwards-El is a prohibited person under Federal Gun Laws and cannot poses, own or be in control of a weapon.    

Note: it is the statutory maximum sentence not the actual sentence imposed that disqualifies the individual under the law.

A prohibited person cannot under AZ Law be a sworn LEO.

valleynative
valleynative topcommenter

Let him keep his job, but reimburse the $18k.  Maybe take it out of whatever retirement account he may have.

JohnQ.Public
JohnQ.Public

Why bother?  The Sherrif has engaged in what appears to be significant illegal conduct including abuse of power and racial profiling in violation of federal law, what difference does it make if a low-level deputy is fired or retained following a misdemeanor assault conviction?  I ask the question somewhat rhetorically, because of course he should be disciplined.  But really - the true problem is at the top of the organization not the bottom of it.

MandyMountain
MandyMountain

Packed on 50# of muscle fast, eh? Has this fucker been tested for illegal steroid use?

shadeaux14
shadeaux14

Go on over to Joe's Facebook page and see how the Blue Hairs are attempting to defend him. They try to deflect, deflect and deflect some more, but they just can't come up with a sane argument.

Flyer9753
Flyer9753 topcommenter

@bgray59 

There was an earlier article that answered some of these. Not sure on several, however:

Yes, he is still employed by MCSO and on the street as a deputy

Which is fucking amazing, however not surprising since it's MCSO, IMHO

Flyer9753
Flyer9753 topcommenter

@valleynative  

Wait.. you are actually ok with someone who has shown to have major anger management issues, control issues and clearly a severe lack of judgement... walking around with a gun and an attitude that it's ok to abuse the powers given to him by the office/position they hold... 

and you are ok with this even with the past history of abuse and bad judgement at MCSO in general, where this guy is employed

wow...


david_saint01
david_saint01

@valleynative negative..if he assaults one innocent civilian, whats to stop him from doing it again and costing the tax payers more money?? fire his ass

valleynative
valleynative topcommenter

@Flyer9753 The history of MCSO in general is unrelated.

IF this incident was triggered by steroid abuse, and IF he is stopped from abusing steroids, then yes, I'm actually ok with him walking around with a gun, because his attitude is probably NOT normally what he showed in this incident.

Flyer9753
Flyer9753 topcommenter

@valleynative@Flyer9753 

Right back at you. Care to compare pedigrees? 

What's your basis and qualifications for judging anyone elses statements on Psychophysiology? 

What degrees do you have? How many years and in what accredited programs have you studied the subject of Psychophysiology in? 

I am sure you are throwing stones with that statement, while standing in a glass house with cracked panes, but please, prove me wrong.

valleynative
valleynative topcommenter

@Flyer9753 Learn a little about psychophysiology and we'll pick this discussion up when you're ready.

Flyer9753
Flyer9753 topcommenter

@valleynative @Flyer9753 

The environment he is working in IS an indicator as to whether or not this will be a problem in the future since it puts him in a position to continue to do this, instead of getting help and being in an environment that is beneficial to everyone, primarily the public this PEACE OFFICER and organization are primarily responsible for.

Your "unlikely to happen" scenario is utter bullshit, that has been proven by history. In addition, you don't take chances when the bad side of that chance are dead people due to an officer who goes off the rails and is heavily armed - people's actions change due to drugs, but not the motivators behind those actions - all the drugs do is remove the control. 

This was not CAUSED by hormones (if those are involved), this was caused by what has existed there all along and the hormones simply lowered the control on. Nothing more. 

He is the abuser. He is the one who has control issues. He is the one that has judgement issues.

Not the hormone or drug, that is nothing more than an excuse.

valleynative
valleynative topcommenter

@Flyer9753 You don't seem to have understood my position.  I'm not saying that it's ok because he was on drugs.  I'm saying that it's unlikely to happen again if it was caused by hormones that he is no longer allowed to take.

The department he works for is no indicator of whether or not this individual will be a problem in the future.

Flyer9753
Flyer9753 topcommenter

@valleynative @Flyer9753

The history of MCSO is most certainly related, since you don't put someone who already has obvious judgement and anger issues in an environment where those issues/tendancies are going to be even further agravated, that's just not good for public safety. 

If he was in a department that took steps to address these types of incidents, instead of actually encouraging them, I might agree with you, since in that situation someone has acknowledged the problem and can therefore take preventative steps to deal with it for the officers benefit, the departments and the populaces.. that's not the case here.

You have no problem if it's because of drug use?? WTF! So you are ok with someone who is in a position of authority with a deadly weapon walking around abusing their authority... so long as it's because of drugs, even though just the drug use (legal or not) is a problem since intelligent people in positions of responsibility should be able to realize what the drug is doing to them.

Just because steroid use is legal (assumption there on my part - I honestly don't know if they are or not and it actually does not matter for this discussion) does not absolve anyone, especially a police officer, from the responsibiltiy of use/misuse.

and drugs/alcohol only bring out what is there to begin with, that the personality has been keeping under wraps, so your comment about him not normally being this way, is utter bullshit.

danzigsdaddy
danzigsdaddy topcommenter

@valleynative you hope? hey, no sarcasm, but in this day and age...................hoping is just trying to fool ourselves. i agree there are factors we are not seeing and that we dont have all the facts, but to me................this is one of many reasons people are so into cop-bashing. granted this may have been the kind of stuff that has been happening for hundreds of years, but with tech as it is nowdays..........we ALL see it  and see it more often, and thats why it must be curtailed

valleynative
valleynative topcommenter

@danzigsdaddy  basically, I don't know.  It sounds like it might have been a quick grab and throw, so no time for intervention, although I would hope the other officer at least said something and went to help the victim.

Frankly, my first inclination, and the way I voted, was to fire this maniac, but upon reflection, I would really like to believe that the people who decided not to fire him were actually using good judgment based on many more facts than we know and with the understanding that future injuries and settlements would be on their hands.

I mean, they've got to realize that, don't they? I hope.

danzigsdaddy
danzigsdaddy topcommenter

@valleynative i speak as a person with violent tendancies, i fear that it COULD be just the tip of the iceberg (not always the case though). and yes, we dont know it all yet. i would however like your opinion on the other questions i posed (not being argumentative)

danzigsdaddy
danzigsdaddy topcommenter

@valleynative even if he was on steroids and then quit...........just like any other drug, there are residual and lingering problems from that drug and its abuse

valleynative
valleynative topcommenter

@danzigsdaddy the bottom line is that we don't know enough to judge. And among the things that we don't know is that this is a peek at what's below the surface.

Hormones, natural or not, have a VERY strong influence on behavior.  Remove that influence and you have a completely different person.

danzigsdaddy
danzigsdaddy topcommenter

@valleynative Bill Cosby once did a bit about cocaine, he said people told him it amplified your personality, the Coz's response was "what if your an asshole???" even if the guy is using steroids (which are illegal anyhow) it is a peek at what is lying just below the surface. who knows what the next episode could be brought out by, maybe he gets passed over for a promotion or his girlfriend is cheating on him, what then? in some shootings they are deemed justifiable, but this assault was not. the question that is bothering me and isnt covered by this article would be "what did the other cops do?" according to the report they also deemed it unwarranted............so who stepped up? who stopped him? who reported him? who came to the civilians aid? if he was using steroids.........thats just another reason he should be facing charges, if he wasnt, what excuse could he possibly explain this behavior away with?

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