Phoenix Cops Shoot at Man Threatening Officers With AK-47 (Airsoft Rifle), Police Say

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Russell McKinney almost lost his life because he threatened Phoenix police with an AK-47 -- even though the weapon turned out to be a toy airsoft gun, police say.

Just after 6 p.m. Saturday, police responded to a call because someone allegedly had broken the window of a home near 37th Avenue and Grovers. Two officers stepped out of the car and noticed the broken window and the front door open.

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As police entered the home, they commanded two men in the living room to lie on the ground. McKinney, 35, later emerged from the hallway, holding what looked to be an AK-47 rifle, police say.

McKinney had been drinking most the day, according to his girlfriend, and after they'd had an argument, she locked him out of the house. He punched a hole in the window, and the family hid inside waiting for police.

McKinney raised the rifle toward the officers, police say, and the cop closest to McKinney fired twice -- missing McKinney -- and both officers retreated outside for cover.

McKinney eventually walked outside, sans rifle. By then, backup had arrived, but McKinney ignored officers commands and turned around to return inside the house, police say.

Officers let loose a dog and shot McKinney with a stun-bag shotgun.

The dog bit McKinney and he hit back, police say. After officers tased him, he finally calmed down long enough to be arrested. He later was taken to the hospital and treated for dog bites.

Police swept the house and found the other members of the family. They checked out the AK-47 and discovered it was only a toy rifle, noticing that someone had spray-painted gray over its bright orange tip.

McKinney was booked into the Maricopa County Jail and charged with two counts of aggravated assault on a police officer and one count of harming a work or service animal.

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Flyer9753
Flyer9753 topcommenter

What a fucking idiot... 

I guess we know what JAFfy looks like now, there is his picture above, since there is no way two people could be that much of a fucking idiot so they must be the same person

DonkeyHotay
DonkeyHotay topcommenter

Remember -- Cowards Shoot First!

Ipso facto.

robert_graham
robert_graham topcommenter

The suspect should have lost his life.  Real or not, police have no idea if the weapon is real or not.  Anybody can paint the end of a real gun red just to confuse police.

Cozz
Cozz topcommenter

He's lucky he wasn't killed...

valleynative
valleynative topcommenter

The photo is misleading.

The bright orange tip had been spray painted grey.

valleynative
valleynative topcommenter

@DonkeyHotay  Good luck with the tactic of waiting for the other guy to shoot you before you shoot back.  

Flyer9753
Flyer9753 topcommenter

@JoeArpaioFanYou fucking idiot.. you can't even get the facts straight when they are in print right above....

'Anybody can paint the end of a real gun red just to confuse police.'

HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA

danzigsdaddy
danzigsdaddy topcommenter

@JoeArpaioFan  your comment should have read "it was painted to look real............they had every right to fire, how would they know" read barneys reply to me...........he brings up the panic mode observation you should be making

danzigsdaddy
danzigsdaddy topcommenter

@JoeArpaioFan you are always and will always be an idiot.................BUT!!!!! you do have a good point on it could be altered (you just didnt read enough though skippy, the gun was altered to look real.............not fake) reword your comment and i will commend you on it

harryfan
harryfan

It's a stock photo. The original toy gun was thrown and shattered into millions of pieces. However the info stated is incorrect. The gun was never painted but infact, bought that way.

harryfan
harryfan

That's because its a stock photo. The toy gun was thrown on the ground and broke into millions of pieces. Also the info is incorrect. The gun was never painted, it was bought that way.

danzigsdaddy
danzigsdaddy topcommenter

@valleynative  grey or not, in a situation like that I can see why a cop would open fire.   the dumbass is lucky they were terrible shots

valleynative
valleynative topcommenter

@harryfan Of course it's a stock photo. I'm saying that it's misleading to use this stock photo because it has a bright orange tip.  I'm surprised anybody misunderstood that.

 Where can you buy a toy gun without the orange tip?  

valleynative
valleynative topcommenter

@JoeArpaioFan

When I said that the photo was misleading, did you think that I believed that the photographer had carefully cleaned off the paint from the actual rifle (now in evidence, we assume), in order to be deliberately misleading?

The use of a stock photo of a toy gun with an orange tip is misleading.

danzigsdaddy
danzigsdaddy topcommenter

@JoeArpaioFan really? wow thanks for the heads up!!!! unfortunately i DID read the article, and if you would have too you would have caught where they said that the guy painted it to look real, so your obseravtion is not only irrelivent.................its about a news article late

barney
barney

@danzigsdaddy @valleynative   Terrible shots?  Perhaps a little too much television and hollywood in your down time.  Two quick rounds let off under extreme duress.  regular ole soft body armor is not designed to stop a high velocity rifle round and the cops were surely aware of that fact.  Fine motor skills were diminished, tunnel vision activated, and full tilt fight or flight response engaged.  I doubt the officer that fired was able to obtain much of a sight picture.  But good Monday morning to you lol

bruceusa2086
bruceusa2086

@DonkeyHotay you are the coward...after all you're the one who has a dick so small you need tweezers to take a piss.

valleynative
valleynative topcommenter

@DonkeyHotay How much do you think your opinion means, considering your complete ignorance?

(not much)

danzigsdaddy
danzigsdaddy topcommenter

@DonkeyHotay thank you for the correction. it sucks when a burn blows up in your face

yourproductsucks
yourproductsucks

@Flyer9753 None of the Valley Agencies distribute level III armor to their officers.

Level IV armor is used by SWAT Entry Teams only as it is unrealistically heavy and cumbersome. 

barney
barney

@Flyer9753 @danzigsdaddy  and with that I'm out of this thread.  DD, been nice having a respectful conversation.  Flyer, I expect you will attempt to throw out some more I-know-more-than-you, at least as you see it.  Made my point long ago and got lured off the track.  Flyer, maybe in another story you can tell me more about all your police related knowledge and experiences.  But if you're just going to regurgitate bad info from inaccurate news stories or movies, I've probably seen it and laughed already.

barney
barney

@Flyer9753 @barney @danzigsdaddy Flyer, let me invite you to do some research.  Just what kind of body armor and how much money do you think police departments pay to issue BA their patrol officers?  Yep, Type III armor is designed to resist rifle rounds. There is even a flexible version, however that is not stated or meant to be understood as SOFT body armor.  Anything below a level III is not designed to stop rifle rounds, .22 long rifle is a caliber and should not be misconstrued to be a rifle round as discussed here.  To back up my "bullshit" here is a link (sorry, too much text to paste) https://www.ncjrs.gov/pdffiles1/nij/223054.pdf

In case you are not aware, NIJ tests and assigns the level ratings.  

Most cops I know (between family and friends quite a few) do not wear level III or above in a patrol capacity.  The higher the protection factor the heavier and bulkier the vest which makes the wearer less flexible.  In keeping with your snarky way of interacting, I would invite you to know the subject matter at hand before trying to argue it, rather than being an ignorant tool.

Flyer9753
Flyer9753 topcommenter

@danzigsdaddy @Flyer9753  

This comes down to specifics of what armor, what round and if there is a TAC plate in the vest.

In general a type III vest, which is what most officers wear, with a TAC plate will stop almost all rifle rounds if hit in the TAC plate and will stop most low/medium velocity rifle rounds if hit outside the vest - again this depends a lot on the ammo used and the distance involved.

Flyer9753
Flyer9753 topcommenter

@barney@Flyer9753@danzigsdaddy

It won't stop a rifle round... really??

Type I
(.22 LR; .380 ACP) This armor would protect against 2.6 g (40 gr) .22 Long Rifle Lead Round Nose (LR LRN) bullets at a velocity of 329 m/s (1080 ft/s ± 30 ft/s) and 6.2 g (95 gr) .380 ACP Full Metal Jacketed Round Nose (FMJ RN) bullets at a velocity of 322 m/s (1055 ft/s ± 30 ft/s). It is no longer part of the standard.
Type IIA
(9 mm; .40 S&W; .45 ACP) New armor protects against 8 g (124 gr) 9x19mm Parabellum Full Metal Jacketed Round Nose (FMJ RN) bullets at a velocity of 373 m/s ± 9.1 m/s (1225 ft/s ± 30 ft/s); 11.7 g (180 gr) .40 S&W Full Metal Jacketed (FMJ) bullets at a velocity of 352 m/s ± 9.1 m/s (1155 ft/s ± 30 ft/s) and 14.9 g (230 gr) .45 ACP Full Metal Jacketed (FMJ) bullets at a velocity of 275 m/s ± 9.1 m/s (900 ft/s ± 30 ft/s). Conditioned armor protects against 8 g (124 gr) 9 mm FMJ RN bullets at a velocity of 355 m/s ± 9.1 m/s (1165 ft/s ± 30 ft/s); 11.7 g (180 gr) .40 S&W FMJ bullets at a velocity of 325 m/s ± 9.1 m/s (1065 ft/s ± 30 ft/s) and 14.9 g (230 gr) .45 ACP Full Metal Jacketed (FMJ) bullets at a velocity of 259 m/s ± 9.1 m/s (850 ft/s ± 30 ft/s). It also provides protection against the threats mentioned in [Type I].
Type II
(9 mm; .357 Magnum) New armor protects against 8 g (124 gr) 9 mm FMJ RN bullets at a velocity of 398 m/s ± 9.1 m/s (1305 ft/s ± 30 ft/s) and 10.2 g (158 gr) .357 Magnum Jacketed Soft Point bullets at a velocity of 436 m/s ± 9.1 m/s (1430 ft/s ± 30 ft/s). Conditioned armor protects against 8 g (124 gr) 9 mm FMJ RN bullets at a velocity of 379 m/s ±9.1 m/s (1245 ft/s ± 30 ft/s) and 10.2 g (158 gr) .357 Magnum Jacketed Soft Point bullets at a velocity of 408 m/s ±9.1 m/s (1340 ft/s ± 30 ft/s). It also provides protection against the threats mentioned in [Types I and IIA].
Type IIIA
(.357 SIG; .44 Magnum) New armor protects against 8.1 g (125 gr) .357 SIG FMJ Flat Nose (FN) bullets at a velocity of 448 m/s ± 9.1 m/s (1470 ft/s ± 30 ft/s) and 15.6 g (240 gr) .44 Magnum Semi Jacketed Hollow Point (SJHP) bullets at a velocity of 436 m/s (1430 ft/s ± 30 ft/s). Conditioned armor protects against 8.1 g (125 gr) .357 SIG FMJ Flat Nose (FN) bullets at a velocity of 430 m/s ± 9.1 m/s (1410 ft/s ± 30 ft/s) and 15.6 g (240 gr) .44 Magnum Semi Jacketed Hollow Point (SJHP) bullets at a velocity of 408 m/s ± 9.1 m/s (1340 ft/s ± 30 ft/s). It also provides protection against most handgun threats, as well as the threats mentioned in [Types I, IIA, and II].
Type III
(Rifles) Conditioned armor protects against 9.6 g (148 gr) 7.62x51mm NATO M80 ball bullets at a velocity of 847 m/s ± 9.1 m/s (2780 ft/s ± 30 ft/s). It also provides protection against the threats mentioned in [Types I, IIA, II, and IIIA].
Type IV
(Armor Piercing Rifle) Conditioned armor protects against 10.8 g (166 gr) .30-06 Springfield M2 armor-piercing (AP) bullets at a velocity of 878 m/s ± 9.1 m/s (2880 ft/s ± 30 ft/s). It also provides at least single hit protection against the threats mentioned in [Types I, IIA, II, IIIA, and III].

 AK-47 is a Type III Round

Next time get a clue or at least do some basic research before you spout off bullshit please.

barney
barney

@Flyer9753 @barney @danzigsdaddy while cover fire is a possibility I never said it was the case.  I also never said anything about spraying bullets indiscriminately.  I offered up the most likely reasons for diminished accuracy in this particular gun fight based on the limited information available.  So to recap my earlier statements: dynamic situation, armed suspect, outgunned police (based on appearances), shooting on the move, fight or flight response, tunnel vision, auditory exclusion.  Yep those things will diminish fine motor skills and accuracy. PLUS the officers knew their soft body armor (thought that should be obvious) would NOT stop a rifle round.  BTW, since you believe you are so much more knowledgeable, please prove me wrong and provide links to soft body armor manufacturers that produce soft body armor capable of stopping rifle rounds.  OR are you a never-was who doesn't know reality.

danzigsdaddy
danzigsdaddy topcommenter

@barney heres another little thing i read in the article that is an offhand compliment to the cops (dont know if you will agree or not) ..........the cops shot twice in the home before retreating.  most people in a situation like that will continue to fire (especially in panic mode). that shows that the police WERE in somewhat control of their nerves and what had to also be a massive surge of adrenaline. i didnt notice that till now 

danzigsdaddy
danzigsdaddy topcommenter

 @Flyer9753 been a long long time since i had any dealings with body armor, i was under the impression that barney was right on the rifle rounds though (been the 80's since i last dealt with it, and i know it has improved since)

danzigsdaddy
danzigsdaddy topcommenter

@barney okay you caught me on the "RANGE" (i do go into the desert if i cant get on a range), but you are once again either misreading my comment or i didnt make it clear enough. i thought i made it quite clear that in situations like that , even excellent shots (on the range or in practice) can turn into a terrible shot.  i am not saying i would have MADE the shot i refer to, i am saying it is the first shot i WOULD have tried for. (that in itself is actually complimenting the poilce by saying they werent going for a straight out kill shot, whereas that would have been my sole intent whether or not i accomplished it). i reread your comment and YES, i was misunderstanding you on the body armor statement. i appreciate you clarifying that for me, and hope you NOW understand my comment a little better. I am not trying to belittle the cops or their response, i am saying that the fucking idiot they had to deal with got off lucky, by all rights he should be dead

Flyer9753
Flyer9753 topcommenter

@barney@danzigsdaddy

" The cops knew they body armor they were wearing is not capable of stopping a rifle round.  Being that you shoot as often as you do, you know very well that a stress shot is not very accurate"

This is the absolute LAST thing you do as a professional LEO.

LEO's are trained public safety first, even above their own, which means you don't spray bullets around.

Professional LEO's don't shoot unless they have a shot. 

It sounds like this combined with the body armor aspect/comment, you are saying the cops sprayed bullets to get the rifle holder to duck and not be accurate when firing at the officers, since the officers know their body armor is not enough.

So you are saying cops spray fire indiscriminately, fire that could hit innocents in other houses (bullets travel)... Professional LEOs don't do this. 

BTW - most LEO body armor WILL stop a rifle round, especially if the hit happens in the TAC plate... but then again, wannabe's who think spraying bullets is ok, don't know reality.

barney
barney

@danzigsdaddy @barney I may be wrong but it reads like you misunderstood my words about body armor.  The cops knew they body armor they were wearing is not capable of stopping a rifle round.  Being that you shoot as often as you do, you know very well that a stress shot is not very accurate. I doubt the cop pulling the trigger was able to obtain much if any of a sight picture.  Most likely he was point shooting which is not a standard method.  I would like to hear about your similar experiences where you had the cool head to get a good sight picture for a head shot on an advancing subject who by all appearances had you out-gunned.  Accuracy on the range (a controlled, calm environment) translates poorly and has almost nothing in common with a true combat situation -  one wear a dynamic shot (on the move) is taken rather than a static line shot.  I am assuming here, since I am not aware of any local ranges with daily availability for on the move shooting.  Again, this is assuming you are not talking about open desert when you write "range." I fortunately do not have experience myself in a like situation.  I applaud the cops for seeking cover.  They were well aware that it is unwise to enter a rifle vs. pistol gunfight.

danzigsdaddy
danzigsdaddy topcommenter

@barney average home in that area is going to be about 1800 sq ft. figure an average distance of the guy being about 15 ft away (not discounting the fight or flight mode). i average 2 to 3 days a week at the range so maybe i am speaking from my experience at shooting when i say terrible shots. again i am not discounting the effects of panic and adrenaline on the body and its perceptions, but it would hardly be considered the effects of TV in my down time. the fact that he could have been wearing body armor should not have been something to affect their shots unless they were going directly for a head shot. i do appreciate your civility (and your good monday greeting) though. i do speak a little unclearly sometimes and you have caught me in one of those moments. allow me to clarify on my statement since you did poi t out my not being clear enough. here goes............."the frickin twit who pulled out a clearly altered toy that was intended to look like a real weapon is very lucky that the police who responded and reacted to his possible threat were not calmly in control and reacting as i would have (by taking that head shot). if they were crack shots or in better control of their situation awareness.................we would be reading of his death."  does that help? i am not being sarcastic here, i truly think that if the yutz had a seasoned shooter or a calmer cop arrive................he would be dead. in real life situations, even tremendous shots on the range can turn into terrible shots. i know i bag on MCSO, but it was not intended as a cop-slam, it was intended as a lucky break for the twit who pulled the AK-47 toy that was intended to make people panic by thinking it was real

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