CBS 5's Latest Medical-Marijuana Scare Story: "Dramatic Rise" in Child "Overdoses"

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CBS5
Good God, look at that "dramatic increase," from just 10 one year to 10 the next year.


CBS 5 -- the local news station that claims to be "telling it like it is" -- isn't stopping its anti-medical-marijuana crusade.

Take this "investigative" report from a few weeks ago, for example. "Investigative reporter" Morgan Loew claims doctors "are seeing a dramatic increase in the number of young children overdosing on marijuana."

See also:
-CBS 5 "Investigation" Into Medical Marijuana Includes a Made-Up Statistic

This is the same "investigative reporter" Morgan Loew who made up a statistic about medical-marijuana use for his last hit piece on the subject, and continued to defend his imaginary stat, despite even the source of the statistic saying he was wrong.

So, what about this "dramatic rise" in "overdoses"?

First of all, let's explore the "dramatic rise." Unless you live in a world where the number 10 is dramatically larger than the number 10, then this is complete nonsense.

As you can see from the photo above, Loew finds 10 of these so-called overdoses in 2012, and in 2013. Loew calls it a "dramatic rise" because 2013 isn't over yet, but it's simply not a dramatic rise. It could end up being 10 at the end of the year. Is that a dramatic rise? Loew appears to have either a severe problem with math or a severe problem with truth-telling.

Then there's the part about the "overdoses." If you're aware of the basic facts about marijuana, then you're probably wondering what the hell a marijuana overdose is.

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CBS 5
Reporter Morgan Loew, telling it like it isn't.
Loew uses "overdose" to mean a child accidentally ingesting any amount of marijuana and being hospitalized because of it -- not that a kid died from ingesting too much marijuana.

Loew then cites a doctor who explains that one of these kids needed to get a lumbar puncture and a CAT scan. Loew fails to explain that these procedures were performed because the doctors were unaware that the kid had ingested marijuana, not to treat some sort of marijuana "overdose."

Perhaps the most pathetic part of the whole thing is the ignorance to how many kids are hospitalized from ingesting prescription and non-prescription drugs, not marijuana.

See these two charts on non-fatal poisonings in 2011 (the most recent) from the Arizona Department of Health Services below:

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Instead of reporting on an actual issue, like the extremely high rate of kids getting poisoned (nearly 800 per 100,000 residents between 1 and 4), Loew only wants to make a point as the anti-pot zealot of the local media.

Loew justifies the piece at the end of his video segment, acknowledging that more kids are hospitalized due to other drugs (ignoring that it's actually way, way more kids), but says that doctors are on pace to see double the number of marijuana-related hospitalizations in children.

Now, that's two completely bogus medical-marijuana stories we've seen from Loew (a "dramatic increase" from the one story we noted earlier this year!). Check out the video segment below:


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DonkeyHotay
DonkeyHotay topcommenter

If marijuana is "harmless" then why not allow teenagers unfettered access to it?


Marco Cruz
Marco Cruz

funny, its a lie when its true. grow the fuck up and quit trying to defend drug use as being beneficial or harmless. wait until your kid loses control because you were so pro-pot. fuckers.

66rock
66rock topcommenter

14 children in 4 years in Colorado!  Oh no, an epidemic for sure!!!  Let's see the figures for the same time period for the kiddies who get into the liquor pantry and medicine cabinet at home.  Only lesson to learn here has been around for decade, child proof, placement of all things at home, etc.  This is a non story, CBS 5.  What in the world is going on at TV 5?  And who is in whose pocket there for this focus lately?  

Cozz
Cozz topcommenter

Lapdog media and false reporting is all this is by Loew.

Phil Oliver
Phil Oliver

I do not know how you could 'overdose' on Marijuana; but surely parents could keep marijuana -- and, let's say, guns -- out of the hands of children and surely that is who should be blamed. Marijuana doesn't kill people, people kill people.

Jen Oaklief
Jen Oaklief

There isn't enough room here to elaborate fully, but I DISAGREE.

Joe Kennedy
Joe Kennedy

All of the local media outlets have been against the MM approval since before it even started. Bunch of know nothing ass clowns.

Gary Waterman
Gary Waterman

I disagree with NT pro-pot crusade as much as I disagree with KPHO anti-pot crusade. You are both equally out of touch with reality!

Tasha
Tasha

What a douche..

Lisa Merrick
Lisa Merrick

I'm so disappointed with CBS 5's out and out LIES. The fact that they would even consider showing their faces again when they KNOW they lied, is amazing1

Jim La Rose
Jim La Rose

I think someone is gunning for a job with Fox News.

Ben Boyer
Ben Boyer

Hahaha "overdosed" What exactly is an overdose pot supposed to do? The reporter doesn't know the term sensationalist information.

Al Lovato
Al Lovato

I wonder if he's like "Imma go to LoLo's and do an investigation on how many people are od'd on trees. Then i can prove my statistics! "

Al Lovato
Al Lovato

They cant truly regulate weed because it grows so easily... Tobacco yes because well... Its a bitch to grow so not everyone can do it so they can tax that ass all day every day. ALL DAY EVERDAY! This guy and his report can take a walk because they both smell like shit to me im surprised scratch that im not surprised people gobble this shit up (sun city residence who love arpaio) but its a shame.. A damn shame.. Oh well off to smoke some trees :-)

Flyer9753
Flyer9753 topcommenter

wow... Yellow Journalism was supposed to have been eradicated, but clearly it is alive and well in CBS 5

CBS5 and their writer are irresponsible journalism at it's finest

marcy
marcy

I've seen a dramatic increase in hysteria from Morgan Loew this year.

hapstone2
hapstone2

Huh ... for a substance that appears to have no addictive "effects" - the users seem to be extremely "interested"  in getting to the next  "episode ... and almost paranoid-ly so. And very very quick to tell you it .. "ain't addictive and's got no side effects"  Yet seem to enter high anxiety when the "mood" strikes!! Heard that a lot while working recovery centers ... and it seems the "bad stuff" of other "substances" is the only real justification  for it's use .. not sure that's a recommendation ...

jetdoc
jetdoc

@Marco Cruz WOW...  That took a lot of thought to say huh? 

jetdoc
jetdoc

@Jen Oaklief I don't know why?  There's ZERO limit on the number of characters you can type.  Seems to me as if there's ALL KINDS of room, just NOT much to fill the space!

dlee23
dlee23

Disagree with what? If it is with Loew, agreed, otherwise you are a moron that could care less about facts.

dlee23
dlee23

Meh, and what reality are you touch with? Thus far it appears to be nothing more than fence sitting.

WhoKnows
WhoKnows topcommenter

@Flyer9753 You know the term "Yellow journalism" came from news being printed on Hemp Paper, right, as hemp paper was cheaper than regular paper, but yellowed quickly.?  William Randolph Hurst came up with the term.

jetdoc
jetdoc

@hapstone2 Ahhhh... now we have the truth.... brought to you by a Drug RECOVERY/BRAINWASHING specialist.  I'd BET you that 90% of the people THERE did NOT want to be there and were there by COURT ORDER ONLY! 

elmergantry71
elmergantry71

@hapstone2 So, are you a member of the "Anonymous" cult? Not asking about the hacking group, BTW.


Flyer9753
Flyer9753 topcommenter

@hapstone2 

Very typical false outlook by someone who is only looking at 1 side of something yet speaks as if they are seeing the entire picture.

When you talk only to a drunk, you will get only a drunks outlook, but that cannot be taken as a factual representation of society like you are attempting to do with this comment. 

You are as bad as CBS 5 and their extremely bad writer. 

I doubt you have ever worked as anything more than a peon at a recovery center, since actual Dr's don't make the grand assumptions and statements you just did.

Flyer9753
Flyer9753 topcommenter

@WhoKnows @Flyer9753  

umm... yes and no...

That is the very basic specific explanation, however the true or complete explanation is much more. 

Hemp paper does not yellow quickly.  Hemp paper is actually the highest quality paper you can get and the most eco friendly in all aspects. The yellowing was caused by the type of processing used, which is no longer used in todays hemp paper.

William Randolph Hurst was a racist cheating bastard who used his newspaper empire to demonize the chinese and mexicans for racist reasons and Hemp/MJ (which both races smoked, more so the mexicans but still) since it conflicted with his wood/forest land/wood paper mill holdings that allowed him to run his newspapers as more of a personal propaganda machine rather than a newspaper that had to make a profit (not that they still did not post a hefty one). 

Now combine those two things, that he was racist and had holdings he wanted to protect that were threatened by a version of the plant used recreationally by those he was racist towards?? Its a match made in heaven, especially when you then also consider his other holdings and familial relations/obligations in pharmaceuticals and chemicals (DuPont), both of which did not want Hemp or MJ around.

Anyways, Hursts part of this is what led to the term 'yellow journalism' in the terms of societies use of it. It caught on as such since the paper making process that Hurst used in his paper plants was not the newer and more expensive one that makes stable long lasting white hemp paper. The fact that both of the races, especially the one that was at the time the major problem in the US (the chinese (from a racists standpoint)) had a slightly 'yellow' appearance per culture and such helped.

So you are right and wrong. The paper used at the time did yellow due to the process used, which afterward as people started to look at Hurst and see him for what he really was, was one of the factors that helped lead to the adoption (from Hursts use) of the term to mean "bad/disreputable/false journalism" by society

hapstone2
hapstone2

@jetdoc @hapstone2 Jeezus - you're  slow study aren't ya ...

yeah some come to us through the "gestapo weed whackers" usually right after a dui or public impairment judgment or domestic assault incident  

but a lot of parents throw them through the window on a drive by screaming ..." you feed the useless sob for a while .." without stopping ... you can over hear one of the parents yelling ... "for god's sake are we gonna have to sell the house and move with no forwarding address to get rid of the POS ?? ...GD it Alice where's your purse?? - WHERE"S YOUR PURSE??  ..."

so our introduction isn't as "euphoric" as it could be and THATS the truth :o))

hapstone2
hapstone2

@elmergantry71 @hapstone2  Cult ?? LOL No I don't belong to any cults ... and I am not anxious to join yours either ... I am however interested in your credentials to identify cults ... now I am no expert at the subject but if asked ..... my first thought would Village Voice ...

hapstone2
hapstone2

@Flyer9753 @hapstone2 Well Flyer I was a foot soldier to be sure and it is anecdotal - like you know I saw smokein that barn - just before it burst into flames   .... there sure is a lot of "passionate" denial ... the ole kill the messenger ploy - well often used often abused ... so give me an upside cuz .... your remarks?  I have heard them again and again - and my 14 year old used say; "eeeeevrrry body is doing it ..." Have you anything a little less juvenile? 

Here's a kid that really wasn't having  as much fun as her dad  

Officials have arrested Joshua Angell, 31, for allegedly abusing his 4-year-old daughter while high on marijuana.


hapstone2
hapstone2

@elmergantry71  In thinking about your "cult" - having seen the work of the Anonymous groups I have to wonder how brutally abused and catastrophically damaged you'd have to be to call any one of them a cult ... hell if it would make you more comfortable just call them "activists" ... that's kind of catchy  ...      

jetdoc
jetdoc

@hapstone2 @devilshorn67-yt @Flyer9753 There's TENS of THOUSANDS of Scientific Studies out there SHOWING it's efficacy.  If you don't READ them, I can't help you.  If you choose NOT to read them, then comment about them, well....  it just makes YOU look whack!

jetdoc
jetdoc

@hapstone2 @Flyer9753 NOT!!!!  When's the LAST time you've seen ANYONE smoke weed and get VIOLENT?  Doesn't happen.  Now if the TRUTH were known, there's ANOTHER substance involved that you're NOT mentioning!

hapstone2
hapstone2

@devilshorn67-yt @hapstone2 @Flyer9753e kid who gets stoned is not going to end up throwing up and aspirating his own vomit ...

Well by god that settles it - lets open the flood gates ... Surely there has to be an efficacy which stands on it's own for the use of the product ... an upside (as in pain relief ) ... other than the downside something else ...

hapstone2
hapstone2

@devilshorn67-yt @hapstone2 @Flyer9753 Oh indeed I am clear on it ... when science has big ass idea - it's the anecdotal information that tells us how good an idea THAT was ... a lot of science get's sh** canned as a result of anecdotal data ... :o))


hapstone2
hapstone2

@shadeaux14 @hapstone2 @Flyer9753 Well Shad - I paid for it so why not use it ... although most seminars are sponsored by focus groups ...so I found their insights useful for my purpose 

devilshorn67-yt
devilshorn67-yt

@hapstone2 @Flyer9753 OH MY! I have never seen an adult deliberately give alcohol to a child and laugh at the results. Right? WRONG. This is not an argument against marijuana it is an argument against child abuse. If you used it that way I'd agree with you. However the kid who gets stoned is not going to end up throwing up and aspirating his own vomit, nor is he going to have a hangover the next day.

devilshorn67-yt
devilshorn67-yt

@hapstone2 @Flyer9753 REALLY....I have no doubt some parents both use marijuana and abuse their children. There is no reason to presume a causal link. I have used marijuana (many years ago) and I never have seen a single person become violent, nay even ANGRY when using it. Anyone conversant with marijuana speaking honestly will tell you it has nothing like the ill effects of alcohol on personality. The worst thing it does is put you to SLEEP. I would not recommend marijuana use while caring for children, it does make you focus on somethings to the exclusion of others. 

I wouldn't want my 14 year old grandson to use marijuana; it's not good for his health nor is he mature enough. I have no issue with the fact that his father uses it for severe back pain (he is 100% disabled and medically retired from the US Navy). He prefers it to narcotics which he could get legally. THat said I would be happier to see my grandson using marijuana for the occasional high than alcohol. People who drink alcohol get angry and attack others, rape, and out of control behavior. People who use marijuana get quiet and eat junk food.

Finally, marijuana doesn't kill people, people kill people. If you can trust parents with guns then surely you can trust them with a soporific herb. Some will disappoint in any event...

shadeaux14
shadeaux14

@hapstone2 @Flyer9753 Do you really have any faith in the accuracy of "Government" statistics on marijuana use?

Want to buy a bridge?

Flyer9753
Flyer9753 topcommenter

@hapstone2@Flyer9753

" I am not impressed with the science defense" 

I am sure all the people who die for refusing medicines given to us by SCIENCE say the same... oh wait.. no.. they don't.

Your response, all of it, is quite funny, since clearly you don't even realize that you just proved my point for me. 

Enjoy the hat you clearly wear willingly and have a nice night.

oh.. and for the record, I have not given you even 1 bit of anecdotal evidence in any of my comments, not that I would expect you to realize this, what with your aversion to facts.

Cozz
Cozz topcommenter

@hapstone2

Tripping on pot, LOL...

Now your tripping and been drinking the koolade way to long.

hapstone2
hapstone2

@Flyer9753 @hapstone2

Well this is terrifying ...

all those credentials ... all that experience ... damn . and a responsible user .. too ... 

I never encountered a "responsible user" tripping - and neither did you I suspect ... in spite of what "science" might say ... there are indications that there is a disturbing trend in the increased use of MJ ... the one post refers to comprehensive and credible study. 

Now through out the years I have had to read as much as I could to understand the dynamics of addiction - (which is not personal by the way - it's individual)   - something about the mind and body of that individual,  doesn't give me a Phd. but it does give me insight to what the hell is going on ... 

coupled with what I have personally experienced - I am not impressed with the science defense ... (as an officer you weren't a lawyer but you did know a lot of law from working with it )

Flyer most of what you have given me is anecdotal - so I am not sure just what the hell science had to with anything - it certainly hasn't swayed distraught  parents friends or spouse - who are experiencing a clearly personal and anecdotal event when the sh** hits the fan ....   


Flyer9753
Flyer9753 topcommenter

@hapstone2 @Flyer9753  

I do understand you are not my enemy, but when you or anyone uses the anecdotal and per your own admission, non-scientific personal first person witnessed information coming from a very small sample group that is not at all representative of the group that is being discussed, you are the enemy to solving the problem, since incorrect information is NEVER a help in solving a problem.

I am an ex LEO of 15 years. I am also a certified EMT, a licensed Nurse and a licensed Abuse Counselor. I have worked in the street, treatment centers, addiction centers, rehabs, half-way houses, outpatient services, etc... I am also a Marijuana user, a RESPONSIBLE marijuana user and have been for 20+ years.

I know exactly what you are speaking of and have seen it myself firsthand. My problem with your posts is you speak from only 1 viewpoint as if that is the only viewpoint that matters, clearly ignoring the readily available SCIENTIFIC information that is available, instead continuing to choose to believe your own preconceptions and misconceptions.

If you only talk to addicts, those people who have a problem with addiction, which is a personal not a substance problem, you only get the viewpoint of addicts. 

It's like asking a drunk if they need another drink and taking that response as indicative of the entire population. That is exactly what you are doing. It's not factual nor right.

So far all you have shown is that you are more interested in whatever you hear that supports your argument, rather than being interested in the facts, medically and scientifically established facts. 

When you show me otherwise I will be more than happy to have this discussion with you based on the merits of the discussion and the facts/realities of the world but not until then, since giving you an outlet for the bullshit you have so far been spewing is not good for anyone on either side of this coin.

hapstone2
hapstone2

@Flyer9753

OK the abuse article is now on ABC 15 the remark comes from below - a poster ...

"In addition, several studies have linked workers' marijuana smoking with increased absences, tardiness, accidents, workers' compensation claims, and job turnover. For example, a study among postal workers found that employees who tested positive for marijuana on a pre-employment urine drug test had 55 percent more industrial accidents, 85 percent more injuries, and a 75-percent increase in absenteeism compared with those who tested negative for marijuana use.

http://www.drugabuse.gov/publications/marijuana-abuse/how-does-marijuana-use-affect-school-work-social-life

Look I really don't have a dog in this fight - having been around addicts/alcoholics for a long time - I just see the worst of it ... the crash and burn ...and the families. The "resistance" always follows the same pattern - "what the F***  do you know - what about those other ..." so I am  a little bit skeptical when I see it ... 

let me say this I unequivocally detest jail as a solution it is BS beyond belief ...  

Let me use an analogy - having investigated a lot of train wrecks - I fear for the passengers and wonder if we can't make it safer  ... I am not your enemy. Really !!

Flyer9753
Flyer9753 topcommenter

@hapstone2@Flyer9753

"

"Its pretty funny to see kids fucked up on weed because you know they will be okay ..." 

Now this is promising - as it enters the realm of the "law of unintended results...""

huh??? Not in the article or discussion so now you are just babbling and making up nonsense in the hope it will help your  argument... pretty childish way to have a discussion

Flyer9753
Flyer9753 topcommenter

@hapstone2 @Flyer9753 

You have brought up one instance/case, where you don't post all the information about it, I have to take your word it is what you say it is.

You are not a doctor or THE doctor involved in the case, so you have no idea what is relevant and what is not, nor what the REAL doctor considered or not since you are not that doctor.

When you post anything from actual researchers about actual (and not just suspected) MJ use, that is backed with something other than your anecdotal experience as a bed pan changer, then we can talk.

Until then, I don't waste time with people like you who watch 'Reefer Madness', combine it with what their 'friend' told them as well as their own anecdotal 'evidence' and call it fact... which is all you are doing. 

It's not fact and it's not relevant to the actual ADULT discussion that is needed on this subject.. a discussion you are clearly not enough of an adult to be present for and a part of.

hapstone2
hapstone2

@Flyer9753

"Its pretty funny to see kids fucked up on weed because you know they will be okay ..." 

Now this is promising - as it enters the realm of the "law of unintended results..."

hapstone2
hapstone2

@Flyer9753 @hapstone2 

Well it's not anecdotal to the doctor ... 

but hell - I see you're predictably defensive and abusive  ... a common symptom of denial as in the other substances you mentioned - the ole "what about .... "  ploy hear that a lot too ...nobody in the room as smart as you ... not to worry we can wait lot of beds ... booming business :o)) 

hapstone2
hapstone2

@Flyer9753 Her mother noticed the suspicious injuries and took her to the Mountain Vista Hospital where it was determined that the injuries appeared to be intentional.

Just a foot note ...

Flyer9753
Flyer9753 topcommenter

@hapstone2 @Flyer9753  

And for every Joshua you bring up, I can bring up 10+ for Alcohol, or OTC abuses or prescription abuses... come back to me when you actually have some relevant facts to discuss, something you have not had in any of your comments to date.

Do you have anything less juvenile to offer than to bring up your 14 yr olds comments that are more a reflection of your bad parenting than actual facts? 

How about some adult discussion with actual facts rather than anecdotal bullshit from when you were cleaning bed pans? 

Are you an adult who can have an adult conversation and be responsible, or a child who can only be irresponsible by repeating fairy tales as if they were fact?


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