Is There a Correlation Between Being a Border Vigilante and Being a Scumbag?

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Chris Simcox, alleged child molester.
It's hard not to notice, but a few of the people who have seemed to be extremely concerned about migrants crossing the United States-Mexico border have also been accused of being involved in serious criminal activity.

The latest, of course, being Minuteman Project co-founder Chris Simcox, who has been arrested on charges related to allegedly molesting three girls under the age of 10.

See also:
-Joe Arpaio Supporter, Minuteman Chris Simcox, Charged w/Child Molestation
-J.T. Ready the Suspected Shooter in Gilbert Massacre
-Shawna Forde, Kid-Killing Minutewoman, Sentenced to Death

Preceding Simcox's alleged acts of scum were folks like J.T. Ready, who murdered four people including a baby last year in Gilbert, before killing himself.

Before that, there was border vigilante Shawna Forde, who's currently one of three women on Arizona death row, and got there for her role in the home-invasion murder of a man and his 9-year-old daughter (both Latino U.S. citizens).

Others haven't been accused of murders or molestations, like Glenn Spencer, Simcox's old buddy, who tried to shoot up apparently imaginary people outside his house in 2003, and ended up shooting wildly at nothing but his neighbor's garage, leading to his arrest.

Now, is this all just a coincidence, or is there a correlation between being a border vigilante and being a scumbag?

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jimgilchrist
jimgilchrist

There are social maladroits and extremists on both sides of ideological/philosophical/activist
movements. 

For examples: from the ultra left we have HARVARD University graduate Unabomber Ted Kaczynski; from the ultra right we have Iraqi War--U.S. Army veteran Tim McVeigh. These ideological extremists are some of the most notorious serial killers and mass murderers in recent U.S. history. 

Ergo, according to the witch-hunter's model, it would appear that all HARVARD students and all U.S. Army veterans must be potential terrorists eagerly waiting for the opportunity to kill and maim scores of people.

Although I agree with a person's irrevocable right (supposedly irrevocable) to engage in free speech, I think such conclusions are both ignorant and simple-minded. 

As for judgment on minuteman Chris Simcox, I will patiently wait for the outcome of any court proceedings before rendering a verdict on the allegations for which he has been charged. 

As a repeated target of false criminal allegations myself, I know very well how often false accusations are lodged at persons who engage in political activism. I remember how some so-called minutemen "volunteers" attempting to pirate the Minuteman Project years ago publicly accused me of embezzlement, fraud, and a litany of bogus criminal activities simply for the purpose of destroying my good name and my organization. They even conspired with a journalist from a major local newspaper to help them in the ridiculous charade. 

Frank Mickadeit, a second-rate writer for the Orange County (Ca.) Register, was more than cooperative in helping spread the misinformation by writing about six or seven commentaries insinuating that I was using the Minuteman Project to engage in criminal activities. All of Frank Mickadeit's demented doodling (disguised as legitimate commentary) went viral and I had to spend several years explaining the untruths being spread by Mickadeit and his collaborators.  

Eventually, a superior court judge ruled such claims were frivolous, but not before the incredibly bigoted and shallow-minded Frank Mickadeit conned much of the public into thinking the criminal allegations were true.   

Beware of witch-hunting "dirty" journalists writing "dirty journalism." Alas, this is the 21st century news industry.  And, most unfortunately, the first casualty of propaganda is always the truth.

So, before we start lynching Mr. Simcox, or all the HARVARD students, or all the U.S. Army veterans from the nearest tree, let's see what the real truth is relative to his arrest on charges of child molestation. Those truths will present themselves in the outcome of any trial Simcox will face.

Jim Gilchrist, Founder and President, The Minuteman Project
--a multiethnic pro-immigration law enforcement advocacy group-

DonkeyHotay
DonkeyHotay topcommenter

Is the Pope a Pedophile Pimp ?

mikefrombisbee
mikefrombisbee

Being a scumbag is a qualification for being a border vigilante.

Bill Schrode
Bill Schrode

perhaps .... we should all remember Bresiana (sp?) Flores when we see these wannabe's

Gary Waterman
Gary Waterman

Warren. Good point about those low paying jobs. PD on the other hand at least TRIES to weed them out. Every police dept im aware of at lease does a phych evaluation. Part of that is to weed those people out. They also do lie detector tests to attempt to weed out dishonest people and those who have comitted certain crimes or done certain drugs. Obviously they dont catch them all but at least they try. We both know the posse and security companies make little or no such efforts.

Warren Klofkorn
Warren Klofkorn

The obsession with border issues is about fear of a brown planet. Also, lots of cops have those power / control issues of which you speak. Those issues are not deal killers in that game. People with those issues tend to seek out positions in which they can throw their weight around.

Warren Klofkorn
Warren Klofkorn

Screening? With as little as those jobs pay they take anyone who will put up with the morons who run those businesses.

Niki Toland
Niki Toland

There is a reason these guys are not cops.

Cozz
Cozz

Actually the question should be:

Is There a Correlation Between Being a Joe Arpaio Supporter and Being a Scumbag?

Of course, yours isn't bad either....and the answer to both is YES.

You have to be a Scumbag to support Arpaio. Who else would support this POS.

sarum
sarum

Of course there is.  Regular decent people are busy working 2 jobs to pay the inflated mortgage, the criminally compounded student loans, the utility company inflated rates and penalties (grotesque profits) for those whose check does not come in time for the bill . . . oh yeah, redlining based on income, all protected by the Corporation Commission . . . sock it to me baby!

DNichols
DNichols

Jan Brewer, and our wonderful Arizona Legislators were trying to pass a bill to fund these Racist Whacko's with our Tax ollars!

It seemed to all fall apart when two immigrants were Murdered in Sheriff Babeu's Pinal County by Camo Clad Vigilante's.

The group of immigrants had a phone and called Police for help.

I wonder how mwny Human Beings have been Raped, and Murdered by these Racist Vigilantes?

Bob Frank
Bob Frank

It's that slippery slope those gun rights wackos keep harping about. Except they are concerned with the wrong slope.

Gary Waterman
Gary Waterman

btw NT, nice job on the slanted title and equally slanted "Yes/ No total coincidence" options you gave. You didn't feel the need to clarify what a YES answer would mean. Why clarify what a NO answer would mean?? Could you be leading people to an answer you have predetermined to be the answer you are looking for?? I already know the answer is yes. You are the WORST "News Organization" ever. YES the guy is a scumbag..but that's not my point. My point is that your tabloid is incapable of presenting ANY issue without a veiled but clear slant. It's amazing how consistent you are in this. You people are so bad I have trouble voicing any agreement with things you say because I can't convince myself to side with such a trashy, trashy presentation!

Gary Waterman
Gary Waterman

I don't think it's as much a correlation between being concerned about border issues and being a scumbag as much as I think there is a correlation between "wanna be" cops wiggling their way into "Cop like" or "militant" positions. Most of those type of people are scum bags. They weren't good enough to make it and/or were disqualified for a variety of reasons. They have power/control issues that cause them to seek out positions that give them that rush. The Posse and other "Cop like" jobs are very susceptible to these type of people. NOT saying they ALL are but Security Guards, The Sheriffs Possse and a whole host of other similar occupations are susceptible to this. These types of jobs need to be screened much better as a result.

eric.nelson745
eric.nelson745 topcommenter

Chris Simcox should have been in this week's mugshot gallery. Like the rest, he even LOOKS like a scumbag. I don't understand how he could be described as "telegenic."

shadeaux14
shadeaux14 topcommenter

This is the type of person who is attracted to things like vigilante groups and the MCSO posse.

sarum
sarum

@Warren Klofkorn FALSE!  It's a concern about jobs for citizens first - the American Dream for US born first - their birthright, their entitlement based on the blood of their ancestors that paid for it.  I don't care if you are NDN, African, Mexican, or white or green - US born are unemployed by the millions making this immigration reform a criminal act against them.   I am just as adamantly against the Gangs intention of flooding our job markets with foreign university graduates who, by the way, have ZERO or very small student loan debt.  This is about our gone global politicians catering to corporate interests and being traitors to citizens - forcing them to go global in unlevel playing field.

Corporate interests line up behind immigration bill
Read more at http://investmentwatchblog.com/corporate-interests-line-up-behind-immigration-bill/#4HFLUItZx028H90r.99 

Cortez
Cortez

@Warren Klofkorn Not true.  Asians lead world population statistics by the billions.  Africans, Anglos, and Latinos are all about even in their world populations (although many latinos identify themselves as white in various statistics which is why the Latino statistic often appears less).  The truth is ignorance.  People who identify themselves as white seem to forget that those with ancestors from Spain are their brothers and sisters.  I refer to Spain as the hidden hand of America.  Spain plays a huge role in the global picture yet is not spoken of in the western civilization's media.

sarum
sarum

@Warren Klofkorn Not really.  Even dishwasher jobs are attracting grateful middle aged dads of 6 these days.  You are thinking of how it once was.

Cozz
Cozz

@sarum  

You can thank the Corp Commission for that being that they are in the pockets of the Utility companies.

IdontRecall
IdontRecall

@Gary Waterman, U R very.. very DAZED AND CONFUSED DUDE....U ask questions than U answer them!!! Have U ever had a concussion hard enough to render U unconscious? perhaps UR brain is a little bit SLANTED. I think it'll be good if U repeat that concussion to reverse the damage. GOOD LUCK DUDE.

sarum
sarum

@Cozz  Yes in answer to APS data collection practices which teaches them exactly how to REDLINE the low income by setting their bill due date for before their check comes in.  After a period of time the law allows APS to classify chronic late payers as "high risk" customers.  Once you have acquired that status APS can legally demand a "security" deposit which is often more than the customers' entire monthly income or damn close to it.  Of course people at this  income level no longer have a line of credit to draw from.  It's awful rape of poor and senior and sick.

In response to the accusation of REDLINING based on class (income) APS instituted a choose when to pay your bill program.  Sounds good but they do periodic sweeps and boot your chosen date out of their system.  Then you start getting letters - legal notices about your late payments.  Then you call and spend a half hour on hold just to get a rude robosigner type employee who ALWAYS has some kind of bogus reason why they cannot put your chosen date back in their system, denies that they deleted your chosen date, denies that  you ever even participated in the choose when to pay your bill program . . . Then you call back in hopes of getting a different customer service rep - just more of the same.

When Jay Gould said I can pay 1/2 the working class to kill the other 1/2 he wasn't kidding.  People are forced to this immorality just to keep their own kids fed - that is surely part of why so many are physically ill - the body knows despite the contortions you put your brain/mind through in order to justify doing that immoral job every day.

Fragile seniors who have made the effort to go to APS office to try to make sense of what is being done to them don't get answers - nope the employees just call the cops on them.  Thankfully last month an old farmer in the downtown Glendale APS office ran into my husband who started truth talking and then the other senior old ladies also witnessed to the POlice on behalf of the farmer - they stood strong despite being old and frail and the POlice backed down and did not arrest the old farmer who was legitimately upset due to lack of any media daring to cover these truths and lack of any laws forcing it to be made known.  

That's OK.  We understand about dead journalists - the list is long.  EVERYBODY is a robosigner mentality these days.  


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