Better Use of Maricopa County Taxpayer Coin: Joe Arpaio Legal Defense, or Submarine?

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Sheriff Joe Arpaio
As Sheriff Joe Arpaio's attorney plans to appeal federal Judge G. Murray Snow's ruling that found MCSO guilty of racial profiling, there are some questions you should be asking yourself as a Maricopa County taxpayer.

Our colleague Stephen Lemons reported that the county's shelled out $1,025,241.46 for legal defense in Melendres v. Arpaio, and that number will only grow.

See also:
Joe Arpaio's Racial Profiling Case Costs County Over $1 Million So Far, with More to Come

Of course, the appeal will only make that cost higher (a lot higher).

That said, while thinking of more judicious uses of taxpayer money, we stumbled across this submarine that costs just a little north of $1 million. It'll end up being cheaper than Arpaio's legal defense.

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With this, four people can go underwater as far as 100 meters at speeds up to 4 knots, to explore the depths of Maricopa County's great bodies of water, like, uh, uh... Saguaro Lake?

Now, what would you say is a better investment here, John Q. Taxpayer: to continue to pay for Arpaio's defense, or this submarine?

Cast your vote below:



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DNichols
DNichols

Arpaio already has a Bathtub Submarine right JoeArpaioFan?!

Gary Waterman
Gary Waterman

Um Sandi, I to think he needs to go but the tax payers DO support him..at least the 1's who voted anyway. This IN YOUR FACE approach to getting rid of Joe isn't working. Those who want him gone need to promote an alternative. ie Who the hell do we replace him with. The fundamental thing this campaign to get rid of Joe is missing is an ALTERNATIVE. It's all blah blah blah mean Joe. Blah blah blah racist Joe. Blah blah blah we must remove Joe. Prop up his replacement. Compare that man/woman's beliefs to Joes. Get people motivated to want to see what that person can do. As it is everyone just says get rid of Joe but that plan has a huge void. No replacement for him.

Mister8
Mister8

The submarine will catch DUI boaters on Lake Pleasant and search for the Lake Pleasant Monster.

OATHKEEPER1958
OATHKEEPER1958

YALL AIN'T SEEN THE BEST OF THE GOOD SHERIFF YET.  THE MANS 80 YEARS OLD AND IS WISE AS A FOX.  I PERSONALLY CAN'T WAIT TIL HE BRINGS US BACK TO THE WAY ARIZONA USED TO BE.  USED TO BE A PEACEFUL PLACE TO LIVE WITH FOLKS KNOWIN' THEIR PLACE.  NOW EVERYONES TO BIG FOR THEIR BRITCHES AND WALKIN' AROUND FUSSIN'.  THE GOOD SHERIFF KNOWS BEST AND ONCE WHATEVER BOHAMMAS GOT UP HIS SLEEVE PASSES, WE'LL BE BACK TO THE WAY WE WERE, CRACKIN' DOWN ON CRIME AND ILLEGALS THEY BOTH GO TOGETHER.

danzigsdaddy
danzigsdaddy topcommenter

here's an observation. if Joe has done nothing (like JAF claims) and it is so obvious and will be overturned so quickly..............he really shouldnt need to retain any council should he?  and if he is that obviously innocent, the evidence should speak for itself. cool beans. tell Joe's legal team they can take the rest of his term off, he wont be needing them

danzigsdaddy
danzigsdaddy topcommenter

how about he pays for the appeal himself, because when he loses we are going to be on the hook for every new suit that comes up against him (just like every settlement before) since the Tea Party wants a tax exempt status maybe they can pay for it out of pocket or through donations from their party members?

robert_graham
robert_graham

By the way people, a big immigration raid will be going down within the next 4 days. I'm going to laught out loud whn the illegal aliens are hoarded into the vans and whisked away leaving their anchor-baby brats behind. Then it won't be long before their wives and husbands publically say WAAAAAAAAAAAAAA I'm separated - WAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAA.  OH PLEEZE!

robert_graham
robert_graham

I can't understand why Arpaio still bothers you. regardless of what you write about him won't change the fact that he's not going anywhere. You keep pissing off law enforcement and you'll be sorry.  For example, don't expect swift police response should you have a police emergency at your building. It might go something like this:

911: 9-1-1, state your emergency.

CALLER: Quick send police, we have a police emergency here.

911: Sir, are you calling from the New Times?

CALLER: YES!!! Come quickly!

911: Goodbye, we won't help you.

Now I know of course that won't happen but instead if there is ever an emergency, expect a long wait for police.



Sindi Stack
Sindi Stack

Let his "FRIENDS" pay for this and not the taxpayers who do not support him.

Tommy_Collins
Tommy_Collins

Once again, a professional sheriff WOULD NOT spend taxpayer monies on an appeal of a ruling such as that of Judge Snow.

The professional response is to correct the deficiency and be sure that his subordinate employees follow the lead set by the ruling.

The Maricopa County Board of Supervisors HAS TO take action to stop the needless spending of taxpayer money on this type of ridiculous litigation. 


Gary Waterman
Gary Waterman

I'm not a big fan of either. I'm on the fence when it comes to elected officials (Remember, this has to be applied to ALL officials, you can't pick and choose) using tax dollars to defend themselves. On the 1 hand it's a big expense for us taxpayers. On the other hand if you DON'T pay for elected officials court defenses, ALL elected officials would leave office due to unrelenting law suits, whether real or fabricated, of which NO individual could afford except perhaps Mitt Romney. The submarine is ridiculous. ALL of the lakes within Maricopa County have 1 thing in common. They are all murky. This submarine would be pointless because you can't see 1 foot in front of your face when only separated by a mask. Imagine trying to find a body when you are sitting in a bubble that has the glare of interior lights and can't get close to objects because it is big and bulky. It also doesn't allow for the use of the #1 tool available when diving in murky water. The human hand. No robotic arm can identify what it is touching like a human hand. If you can't see anything or feel anything, what's the point of having it?

Carlos Andrés
Carlos Andrés

Let the people that support this Jackass pay for his appeal since they love him so much..This man has wasted so much tax payer dollars than anything else, then he gets on TV and boasts how he is saving the county money by serving inmates green bologna and nasty food.. Something wrong with the people that agree with the way he is handling things here in Maricopa county..

Sandy Yost
Sandy Yost

since he already has a tank, how about a U boat?

IdontRecall
IdontRecall

Why is this unuseful CONVICTED RACIST STILL IN OFFICE?, When it's obvious that He is having health issues preventing Him from carrying His duties, who has miss spent 100 million dollars, -which probably part of it went into paying Henderblimp, Black and the other one in exchange to take the fall for the Him-, violates constitutional people's rights, people gets killed in His jails and on and on.

Best thing to do is place that Monitor at MCSO, conduct an Audit to see how much more money has been "miss spent" and if that's the case , hold Him accountable for it, and then decide if He is going Home (take Him out of office) or going to prison.

JohnQ.Public
JohnQ.Public

St. Mary's Food Bank can provide 7 meal for every $1.00 in direct donation.  That $1,000,000 in legal fees could have funded 7,000,000 meals for the poorest and most desparate in our community.  I'd go with that over defending Joe's ongoing violation of the US Constitution or a nifty submarine any  day.

danzigsdaddy
danzigsdaddy topcommenter

@Mister8 at 4 knots.............the only DUI's they could catch would have to be in inner tubes. i have a feeling the sub would be more to feed Joe's ego, it would be the flagship of the "Arpaio Navy" (that would consist of the sub and some inflatable water wings. the wings would be for Joe. we know he cant walk or drive, so I'm thinking floating would probably be a challenge for him too. because shit sinks it doesnt float)

IdontRecall
IdontRecall

@HILLFOLKREDNECK, HEY TOOTHLESS ONE, UR A COMPLETELY DELUDED REDNECK, UR SHURF AIN'T GONNA MAKE IT TO THE END OF JULY, HE IS OVER THE HILL." HE IS WISE AS A FOX", HA HA HA HA, WISE? THE OLD FOX CAN NOT EVEN RECALL SHIT. .."I CAN'T WAIT TILL HE BRINGS US BACK TO THE WAY ARIZONA USED TO BE"...WELL REDNECK U BETTER SIT DOWN 'CAUSE THE SHURF AIN'T CONNA BE ABLE TO DO THAT DUE TO HIS HEALTH DETERIORATION, HE BARELY CAN STAND UP AND SPEAK, HE LOOKS LIKE A CADAVER ALREADY. ONCE THE OLD FART IS TAKEN OUT OF OFFICE, ARIZONA WILL BE BACK TO THE WAY IT WAS BEFORE THIS CONVICTED RACIST SHURF GOT INTO POWER, THE HILLYBILLIES WILL STAY UP THEIR HILLS, CHEWWING TABACCO AND FKNG THEIR GOATS,  INSTEAD OF COMMING TO TOWN WALKIN' AROUND FUSSIN'. NOW GO AND HELP JAFFY TO CHANGE THE DEPENDS ON THE OLD ONE AND MOVE HIM AROUND, DON'T LET HIM "FALL".

sliperymike
sliperymike

@HILLFOLKREDNECK what kinda crap is this"FOLKS KNOWIN THIER PLACE"

ASSHOLE!!! the civil war was over a hundred years ago,but if you still feel like throwin down..............

Dontbelieveit
Dontbelieveit

@JoeArpaioFan The only raid that is going down is the jokers flaccid wienee in your mouth .spurting his maranera sauce in your face  while you lick his asshole arpaio butt monkey!

OATHKEEPER1958
OATHKEEPER1958

@JoeArpaioFan   AMEN.  AND THEN MAKE A BIG POLITICAL SCENE OUT OF IT ON THE LIBERAL MEDIA.   SORRY FOLKS, BUT THEY DONT HAVE RIGHTS.  NEVER DID.  THEY CAME INTO THIS COUNTRY ILLEGALLY, AINT GOT NO RIGHTS.  NOT NOW, NOT NEVER.

cassityg32
cassityg32

Ph pleeeeease let that go down. Jail time, fines, etc....beautiful

david_saint01
david_saint01 topcommenter

@JoeArpaioFan LOL i hope he does..no free parking, no collecting 200$, straight to jail for contempt of court..

IdontRecall
IdontRecall

@JAFFYQUACK, Well then I'm going to go to the desert and make a 911 cal from over there, since the Posse of clowns are responding to emergencies over there, how about that Jaffyboi. U might be the translator for MCSO at the 911 emergency center. U R AN ILLEGAL, BIATCH.

cassityg32
cassityg32

There's no swift response anyway...if any.

robert_graham
robert_graham

@Tommy_Collins Once again, legitimate people would not fight to recall Sheriff Joe, who was recently re-elected before your recall began. In other words, you are nothing but a bunch of sore losers who cry WAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAA when you can't get your way.

saltywench
saltywench

@Tommy_Collins Unfortunately, the MCBOS won't do anything about it, not wanting to draw attention to themselves after having received big settlements of taxpayer money...

The county needs a new sheriff AND a completely new BOS.

JohnQ.Public
JohnQ.Public

@Tommy_Collins A professional sheriff WOULD NOT have gotten slapped on the ass for racial profiling in the first place.  That said, your comment is spot on.

robert_graham
robert_graham

@IdontRecall Just like the DOJ bugged the AP reporters, you might just be under surveillance too along with the rest of you clueless idiots.  They've got your IP address.

robert_graham
robert_graham

@JohnQ.Public Stop talking out of your ass. You have no idea what you are talking about just like you had no idea what you were talking about when you promised Joe would be recalled.  I guess you don't know the truth do you?

danzigsdaddy
danzigsdaddy topcommenter

@HILLFOLKREDNECK you are aware that we are bestowing rights on them (albeit temporarily) when we arrest them and then take them to court right? and while they are in custody they are also to be afforded rights since they are temporarily wards of the state while staying in Joe's custody. if not that would be considered kidnapping. since we run them through our legal system, they are to be afforded the same care and treatment that any citizen is to be afforded (although that might not be best for them....look at the care Marty Atencio, Scott Norberg and Deborah Braillard recieved). if they had no rights at all, they would be picked up, not jailed but returned to the border immediately.  and they big key factor you just cant seem to grasp no matter what is that this doesnt involve illegals at all. this is about US citizens and people who are here legally. they are the ones who's rights were trampled by Joe in his over enthusiasm to single out illegals. in his personal mission he is hitting other people. although you seem determined to remain ignorant and uninformed, maybe you ought to read a paper sometime instead of listening to other racists  who also believe that only illegals are affected. 

david_saint01
david_saint01 topcommenter

@JoeArpaioFan @Tommy_Collins lol just admit it bobbi..youre mad case you have to see your own ugly face in the mirror everyday...you must be one sad, miserable, pathetic person to have as much hate as you do. 

Tommy_Collins
Tommy_Collins

@JohnQ.PublicThanks, JQP. That is EXACTLY my point. In the 20 years the elected official has been in office he has NEVER been accused of professionalism. He has always been looked at by professional law enforcement officers as the class clown and as an embarrassment to us all.

robert_graham
robert_graham

@JohnQ.Public @Tommy_Collins Keep in mind that the ruling will be reversed on appeal simply because Arpaio and his deputies have not profiled. Trust me, Arpaio will prevail.  Just because some bufoon judge ruled the way he did doesn't mean it will stick.  Remember, Eric Holder is on his way out and so you are going to lose your baby blanket.

IdontRecall
IdontRecall

@JAFFYBOI, Me?/bugged and under surveillance? oh my god, what am I going to do? U R a fucking MORON. U have no clue of what U R talking about. To the contrary U R the one that might've been "bugged" long long time ago and under surveillance, monday U were at the library, remember? three weeks ago U were at tent city, remember? I was mere 20 Ft away from U, just yesterday......well I think that's a " taste" of what I'm saying. My IP address? which one. See that's why I say U have no ckue, I could be on X domain and state or country, whatever the need might be, "log out" and onto another one ,there's a ww of hosts. so good luck. MORON.

WhoKnows
WhoKnows topcommenter

@JoeArpaioFan @IdontRecall No one was "bugged".  Call records only.  Just who called who.  You're reading skills are at what, 3rd grade level?

cassityg32
cassityg32

That doesn't address his question

david_saint01
david_saint01 topcommenter

@dfdjeff @JohnQ.Public lol i nearly coughed up my lunch after seeing "freedom works" at the bottom...a tea party group, actually honoring what they say? quick, someone pinch me cause i have to be having a nightmare lol

IdontRecall
IdontRecall

@JAFFYQUACK, Then the CONVICTED RACIST  and URself are the first ones to DROP DEAD, keep in mind that the RACIST 1 almost went ahead on doing so. MORON.

david_saint01
david_saint01 topcommenter

@JoeArpaioFan @JohnQ.Public @Tommy_Collins LMAO the 9th circuit is NOT going to overturn it bobbi..might as well just accept it and deal with it like an adult. but if you want to drive yourself crazier than you already are by getting your hopes up, i wont mind..the last meltdown was quite entertaining, wouldnt mind seeing it again when the 9th doesnt even agree to hear the appeal! HAHA

JohnQ.Public
JohnQ.Public

@JoeArpaioFan Where in the Constitution, exactly, does it say that undocumented aliens are not entitled to the protections guaranteed by that fine document?

david_saint01
david_saint01 topcommenter

@cassityg32 lol one of his many...its becoming kind of pathetic really since we all know hes all bark and no bite

david_saint01
david_saint01 topcommenter

@JoeArpaioFan @david_saint01 @dfdjeff @JohnQ.Public LMAO you had your chance, you bitched out like the little coward you are. let me clue you in on something bobbi..real mofos dont say shit, they wait for the flip side to present itself and act. The biggest bitches are the ones like you that bark all the time like a fucking ankle biter 

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