Joe Arpaio's "Special Deputy" Ted Nugent: Immigrants Should Be "Indentured Servants"

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Surprise! Ted Nugent's racist!
Some things just don't change -- Ted Nugent's still a racist madman and Sheriff Joe Arpaio's friends seem to be the nuttiest nuts this side of the nuthouse.

Right now, Nugent, a "special deputy" to Arpaio, is calling for all undocumented immigrants (actually, only those from Mexico, it seems) to be treated like "indentured servants," which is a nice way of saying "slaves."

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Nugent -- who, by the way, is supposed to be "dead or in jail" right now -- wrote a column for Arpaio's favorite conspiracy-theory website, World Net Daily, explaining his "immigration plan."

"All illegal men in America should be required to work on building the fence, to be completed in one year," Nugent says. "We would pay them minimum wage, provide food and shelter, and provide them English and American history classes at night. Everyone wins."

He explains that these immigrants will be treated "like indentured servants, meaning that they have to earn their citizenship."

We'll pretend for a second that Nugent's actually participating in reality and cite the Justice Department's Civil Rights Division, which says this is illegal.

"[Federal law] prohibits compelling a person to work against his/her will by creating a 'climate of fear' through the use of force, the threat of force, or the threat of legal coercion [i.e., If you don't work, I'll call the immigration officials.] which is sufficient to compel service against a person's will," reads the DoJ's website section on "involuntary servitude."

Nugent, apparently operating under the belief that every undocumented immigrant in this country is from Mexico, cites several instances in his immigration "plan" in which a person's entire family will be sent "back to Mexico."

There's a quote somewhere about being known by the company you keep, and it's perhaps not surprising in this case.

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Maricopa County Sheriff Joe Arpaio (left), with his "Special Deputy" Ted Nugent.

Nugent adds that Arpaio's also part of his immigration plan.

"Any man or woman who is a known member of a street rat gang will be tossed out of the country and is not eligible to return," he says. "If he or she is caught re-entering America, we will apply Sheriff Joe Arpaio justice."

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jonnyquest
jonnyquest topcommenter

So does it still count as an oath if your left hand is in your pocket? What if his fingers are crossed?

DNichols
DNichols

Do Nugent, and Russell Pearce share the same Damn Camo Moo Moo?!

ExpertShot
ExpertShot topcommenter

Nugent isn't a patriot, he's a shopkeeper - selling his trinkets of negative emotion to the bigots amongst us. If he thought he could make money off selling yoga and brown rice w/veggies, he'd do that too - but he can't.  Boycott Hate!

MaskedMagician1967
MaskedMagician1967 topcommenter

Too bad Nugent's argument falls short. Apparently he forgot about the 13th Amendment to the U.S. Constitution...

Perhaps that's why he's associated with the Flaccid Failure of MCSO....

sarum
sarum

We have plenty of domestic low-wage slaves, debt slaves, with no opportunity and who do not qualify for all the perks that illegals have gotten for decades.  Their anger, when they see illegals with the accoutrements of civilized life that they cannot afford (thanks to the pillaging of our social safety net and the generous gifting by brainwashed idiots (in churches for example) domestic working poor watch illegals have those expensive baby carriages that they themselves cannot afford.  The children are better dressed.  They have food stamp card at supermarket and eat better.  They have beautiful furniture in their homes.  They drive new cars (sometimes.)  They have a car.  That is not xenophobia that you are seeing.  No, it is justified backlash.

How many millions of US born workers have almost nothing left after they pay room and board and will see illegals building the fence in Ted Nugent's proposal as receiving special treatment to be able to have free room and board and minimum wage free and clear on top of that?  Once again the illegals have the best of both worlds.  They are special all right.  So are the brains that justify this disparate treatment in favor of illegal workers and at the expense of domestic labor.  Very special twisted brains.

ExpertShot
ExpertShot topcommenter

Move all the gun nuts up to Montana, lock the door and throw in tons of AMMO - presto, gun violence problem solved.  Let em shoot it out amongst themselves and do us a favor.  I'm betting NONE of those bikers would have had the legal status to even own a gun if we had passed background checks.

tednugentdeathwatch
tednugentdeathwatch

Only a dirtbag like Arpaio would "deputize" a draft-dodging pedophile and twice convicted animal poacher.

yourproductsucks
yourproductsucks

...to be treated like "indentured servants," which is a nice way of saying "slaves."

Just for clarification, indentured servitude is NOT synonymous to slavery.  C'Mon Matthew, you are smarter than that.

svivar9087
svivar9087

Arpaio & Nugent...2 haz-benz, desperately seeking attention.  As a Latina I should be infuriated by these remarks, but instead I find it amusing.  

mikefrombisbee
mikefrombisbee

He (Nugent) shit on himself to avoid being drafted during the Vietnam war. He is a candy-ass chicken-hawk, and a piss-poor musician. He and America's self-proclaimed toughest sheriff are kindred spirits.

danzigsdaddy
danzigsdaddy topcommenter

its not a picture of a swearing in. its two feeble minded idiots playing a child hood game

"pat-a-cake, pat-a-cake.......two washed up hams

pose for the cameras, as often as we can

spew out the hatred, and spread it around

pat-a-cake, pat-a-cake.....part of the Arpaio sham"

DNichols
DNichols

If we round up all of America's "Hardest, and Most Devoted Immigrant Workers" who already "Slave " for America, then take them to the U.S. Mexico Border to Build the Fence, we should also round up all of the Worthless Racist ungrateful Idiots like Nugent, Arpaio, and all other whacked out Extremist, and put thier Asses to work in the fields accross America to do the HARD LABOR that Immigrants have gladly done for America for many years?!!

Stop the Racism, and Hate.

Restore America with Good, and Brotherhood.

"America is great because it is good, when it ceases to be good, it ceases to be great."

Alex De Tocqueville

An 1890's French Historian that was far wiser than Racist's like Arpaio, and his Henchmen.

danzigsdaddy
danzigsdaddy topcommenter

you know.....i used to listen to Ted all the time as a youth..................now i think he needs meds and to stop talking. (just play and sing Ted, leave the talking to the adults). one thing royally pisses me off about this picture though. WHAT KIND OF PATRIOTIC AMERICAN TAKES A FUCKING OATH WITH WITH SO MUCH DISRESPECT THAT HE HAS HIS HAND JAMMED DOWN HIS PANTS?????????? if you take a oath of loyalty that casually...............YOU ARENT A PATRIOT 

sarum
sarum

Interesting.  Most workers in AZ don't have "minimum wage" left over after paying room & board so these illegals building the fence will have it better than many citizens now that "career paths" have been abolished except in the case of "special" criteria.  So Nugent's proposal is still a better deal than a huge population of US born citizens can get.

IdontRecall
IdontRecall

It seems that the OLD FOOL has an obssession for PUTOS with a pony tail, could it be that that's where He holds onto when the wild thing might be performed.

And these are the kind of wackos that wrap Themselves in the Flag, pound Their chests and call Themselves PATRIOTS, when They DON'T ABIDE BY THE CONSTITUTION  and make the RULE OF LAW A MOCKERY, even becoming MAGICIANS, making money disappear, CORRUPTING everything at reach, MAKING BOGUS CHARGES, and then claimming not RECALLING anything. FNG DESPICABLE.

William Mc Burney
William Mc Burney

Any one infiltrating a country illegally shoud get the same penalty for sneeking into Mexico. First time one year prison second time 5 years.

WhoKnows
WhoKnows topcommenter

In the picture, does Ted have his hand in his pants because he's peeing himself to dodge Joe?  Heck, it worked for him to dodge the draft!

Jeromy Asp
Jeromy Asp

Bring back slavery? We're still in it. Give 40 hours a week just to keep up. Ask anyone with a mortgage.

MandyMountain
MandyMountain

Nugent has always been a douche bag. He plays a fast guitar. So what? He lived down the road from me in Michigan years back. Even then he was always going on about killing things, hangin' out with narcs, and who knows what other horrendous crap. Do us a favor and go back wherever the fuck you came from, Ted, and STFU.

Tara Bentley
Tara Bentley

What a douche! I love his music but will never pay to see him again due to his political views.

66rock
66rock topcommenter

Ha, his last sentence, "we will apply Sheriff Joe Arpio's justice".  Who is we??  Please tell me this creep is not thinking about being a snow bird here!!  That would be two much to tolerate for sure. I also wonder if this washed up idiot ever gets tired of spewing his hate which he does mostly for attention of course.



Brad Kachurka
Brad Kachurka

agreed pnt. We should just deport them. No work for amnesty program.

lightguy512
lightguy512

The oath doesn't count.  He had his fingers crossed (they're in his pocket).  

Good to see he's wearing his formal jorts for the swearing in.

 He's as official as when that cross-dressing paranoiac, Hoover, made Elvis a junior G-man.

Ted's really "special."  They drove him there in the short bus.


azweasel
azweasel

What a couple of pathetic washed up losers.

Chris Stuckey
Chris Stuckey

Shut up... Your dumbfuckery is bleeding my intelligence.

ExpertShot
ExpertShot topcommenter

@sarum You're so full of jealousy you remind me of the german immigrants who hated the Irish - exactly the same kind of hate-filled amimus.  Why don't you read your country's history - it's full of the same kind of negative crap you just up-chucked here.  It's people like you that make me not feel so bad knowing that soon a solar flare will come and wipe our atmosphere, and your sorry ass, off this planet. This planet has been here for over 4 billion years - enough time for multiple levels of life to come and go.  Our species has been on the planet, for a few thousand millenia - a mere speck in the passage of time in this universe - and you're bothering other people about their strollers.  DUDE, get a life!


logicman
logicman

@ExpertShot - Great idea.  Then the only people that would have guns are gang members, criminals, and cops.  Sounds like Mexico.  On a serious note, background checks are not a bad idea, you are just making another dumb post.

valleynative
valleynative topcommenter

@ExpertShot  So, you think that if background checks had been passed, that it would have somehow magically pulled the guns out of their holsters?    Or, is it that you think that if it had passed, the criminals wouldn't be able to buy guns from other criminals, as they do today? 

That's almost as ridiculous as you thinking that "gun nuts" are violent and would shoot each other if confined together.  Only a very tiny percentage of gun owners ever shoot anybody.

The problem is that some people are so incredibly stupid that they think that the newsworthy minority represents the majority.


logicman
logicman

@yourproductsucks Agreed.  I also liked the brilliant statement: "Nugent, apparently operating under the belief that every undocumented immigrant in this country is from Mexico".  Are we really going to pretend like there's an issue on the Canadian border too?  These are the same people that believe every kid in little league deserves a trophy.   

squash
squash

@yourproductsucks Sure, technically indentured servants aren't slaves. Nevertheless, here is a quote from a book I just read for Humanities 260: "The workers (indentured servants) were sometimes forced to wear iron collars, often beaten and even tortured for recalcitrance, and always required to have passes when they left their plantations" (A Different Mirror by Ronald Takaki) On top of that, many of the indentured servants that I am referring to were kidnapped (even whites) from their homeland and subsequently FORCED to work as servants. To illustrate my point even further, I'll use an example of the punishment an indentured servant (not synonymous AT ALL with slavery, according to you) received for escaping. A man named Christian Miller (a white man) was given thirty lashes and had an "R" (which stood for "rogue") branded into his cheek. He was also required to serve seven more years as a servant after completion of his previous term. Conversely,  a black man named Emmanuel who also escaped with Miller was given the same punishment, except that he was required to serve for life as a servant (not just seven more years, but LIFE). But yeah, indentured servitude isn't even close to slavery. That said,  I can't say I'm surprised, YPS. You're kind of predictable. You always try to win an argument by citing some type of technicality..

ExpertShot
ExpertShot topcommenter

@yourproductsucks Actually, YPS, it is.  Look at the evidence.  There was no "meeting of the minds" or unpressured agreement by both parties - it was either "lose your freedom in debtor's prison and possibly die or be killed or become a slave."  You have not read your history. 

squash
squash

@danzigsdaddy What I would(n't) give to watch Arpaio and Segal actually play patty-cake together. That would be funny as shit. 

sarum
sarum

@DNichols Why don't you stop your own racism and hate?  Start with yourself.  You have 4 fingers pointing back at yourself.    America has only been selectively good.  Even in he 1890's.  We had plenty of white slaves.  Plenty of prison slave labor.  How many in child slave labor?  America has often made unkept promises - like to veterans, who when they camped out on the White House lawn to collect became murdered.  If you would take a good look around you would realize that Ted Nugent's proposal is a better deal than many US born workers get - to have minimum wage free and clear with room and board gifted to them?  I know people who work all month just for rent.  They don't get paid enough to also eat.  And they don't qualify for food stamps either.  So I don't know what trust fund you are sitting on but in the real world Nugent's proposal is one that many citizens would jump on given the opportunity.

danzigsdaddy
danzigsdaddy topcommenter

even douche-bag Joe doesnt have his hand jammed down his drawers

logicman
logicman

@ExpertShot @sarum - I don't think that is a fair comparison.  However, if it were German immigrants hating ILLEGAL Irish immigrants maybe you would have a point.

sarum
sarum

@ExpertShot "jealousy?"  No I am weary of the MISScharacterization of US born working poor as xenophobic and racist when in reality they daily face very disparate treatment ranging from racism, reverse racism and most importantly, Class Warfare.  Meanwhile the blind class keeps parroting "Arbeit macht frei" as if all those dead end service jobs will somehow miraculously provide an opportunity to "move up."  Americans are MISScharacterized as having lost their work ethic and no longer having the willpower to pull themselves up by their boot straps when the fact of the matter is that a 6 year old can't even have a lemonade stand without a license but tamales are sold on the street with no enforcement whatsoever and no calls for it.  A kid can't just go mow a lawn.  No, he has to get licensed and bonded.  Kids delivering papers put their parents at risk of CPS' child labor laws.  We have legislated away even basic opportunity and then slammed the character of those who do not wish to run afoul of the law.  This is wrong.  And I will continue to say so.

Anyways, next time you are lugging your babies around with your arms trying to get groceries or whatever you will see the need for the $500 baby carriage that costs more than half your monthly take-home pay BEFORE daycare and is forever out of reach although badly needed yet these people with no skills, Food Stamp cards and no English miraculously have them.   How is it that no skills and no language gets an easier life?  Look further and you will see how. Walk in that mother's shoes for awhile before you MISScharacterize her anger and her.  

Maybe it IS jealousy but whatever it is - the working poor suffering grueling poverty have a right to be disgruntled when no skills no language people can have all that they need when intelligent hard working and educated often imprisoned with gratitude for that low wage job that keeps them housed another week barring ANY unforeseen unable to plan for due to not enough money circumstance?  How many forced to illegality or immorality just to live - and righteously - angry as hell about it?    That anger is not going to go away regardless of how you like to MISScharacterize the situation, them . . . or me.  

The proposal ridiculed as slavery in this article is an income opportunity that sadly MILLIONS of citizens would JUMP at.  Room and board covered and minimum wage stashed for future use?  Too many work all month just for rent and have nothing left to eat with but don't qualify for aid.  

Media is so quick to assault the character of US born workers in general based on . . . oh say last years' Walmart workers caught on tape slamming I-pads.  Well, on their wage, they will never be able to afford one.  What do you expect them to do with their anger about low-wages and lack of opportunity?  Are they not slaves with merely an illusion of freedom?  Just because I point it out repeatedly in response to the repeated MIScharacterizations and spin put out here means that I am exercising my voice to show the other POV and nothing else.   Amazing how threatening and/or painful the truth is to so many.

Regardless of how you may choose to spin my comments many actions taken by our national government in recent years proves that obviously they are seeing it the way I do.  But nope, you call it tin-foil conspiracy crap.  The proof is out there.  Leave this page and let your fingers do the walking.   We are in very dangerous times and looking at all sides and acknowledging the truth helps us make decisions that are less inflammatory.   My focus has been consistent and is valid.   The spin that occurs here is designed to make it morally acceptable to stomp on - destroy domestic human capital  in exchange for a new imported underclass.   It is wrong and I won't stop pointing it out until I find a better way.

ExpertShot
ExpertShot topcommenter

@valleynative@ExpertShotBackground checks HAVE been passed and MILLIONS of terrorists, criminals, mentally unstable people and people convicted of domestic violence have been prevented from purchasing weapons.  The problem is that UNIVERSAL background checks have not been passed and these same terrorists, criminals, mentally unstable people and people convicted of domestic violence go online or to a gun show parking lot and buy a weapon because of the unethical pieces of shite which frequent those shows.  You know you are a "gun nut" when you think "they" are out to take your guns.  That's bullshite and you should know better.  There are NO organizations in the United States today trying to ban guns. 

BTW - 10% of the people in this country did not favor universal background checks and yet the law did not pass the Senate.  Given that 90% of the American people WANT universal background checks (including 70% of NRA members), your last sentence is extremely ironic, don't you think?

sarum
sarum

@squash In more recent human history there were Russian "refuseniks" seeking refuge in the USA.  Even the Arizona Republic would dutifully feature these people along with contact information in hopes that a US "sponsor" would aid them.  The fact is that these people received free education in the USSR and the government therefore expected them to pay off the value of that free university education with a few years of working for them - the government.  Personally I think that looks like a fair deal.  Thinking with my western mind I also see the advantage of valuable job experience gained which further enhances the workers' value.  But no, the "refuseniks" did not wish to uphold their part of the bargain, a modern form of indentured servitude and the US government was anxious to benefit from their rebellion.  We have mostly all evolved from several hundreds of years ago.

Another form of modern indentured servitude that I do not agree with is when foreigners pay a huge price to come live and work in US.  They are bound to the job because first of all they need to recoup (pay back money lenders) their original investment and because they went through all this in hopes of scoring some good money for family at home.  One of the most outstandingly egregious incidents of this was post Hurricane Katrina where workers from as far away as India were brought in under false pretext - unpaid, passports confiscated by their employers, substandard if any housing - just a horrible mess.  US citizens from the area should have been given the opportunity to participate proudly in rebuilding their own community - this could have been a turn-around event in the lives of many of the chronically disenfranchised from the area but no, not even in the most dire of circumstances can that opportunity be allowed them.  3rd world slavery was the option chosen by the PTB in this nation.  In contrast, the Nugent's proposal, if honored the way he said it, is actually decent and I am sure many citizens would also like the opportunity to sock away some minimum wage free and clear.

squash
squash

@danzigsdaddy Haha oops, I meant to put Nugent. Oh well, close enough - they're both jackasses. 

DNichols
DNichols

@sarum: 

For the Record:

Prior to the January 2008 start of the Arpaio/Pearce lead "Anti Immigrant Rant, Americans could pick and choose about any good paying job they wanted!

The start of the Hitleresqe I.C.E. Deportation/Incarceration Programs caused a "Mass Exodus" which vacated Tens of Thousands of dwellings litterally overnight.

This triggered the entire "Foreclosure Crisis," the Bail Out Programs", and our new "Ballooning National Deficit".

Every Bail Out, Stimulus, Cash for Clunkers, Mortgage Program, Auto Bail Out, ect. has in fact occurred since January 2008 as a Direct Result of the Deportation/Incarceration Damage to our once Economically Strong Nation of "Immigrants".

I bet Americans would rather jump at the jobs that were available prior to this Racist Immigrant Rant?!!

It is Racism like that of Arpaio, Pearce, Brewer, and Extremist Groups that Crashed America.

America must quit listening to these Racist Idiots to Recover.

America is Great, and it was Built on Far Better Principles, and Values than those of Arpaio, or any of his Racist Henchmen.

This is our I.C.E.'d Economy. I.C.E. Put the Car in the Ditch.

P.S. The twenty three year period prior to the January 2008 start of the "Anti Immigrant Rant" was "The Most Prosperous Period in TOTAL U.S. History.

We all worked HARD Togrther!

Including un-documented Immigrants.

Fact is "The Hard Labor Immigrants gladly did for America was the very Foundation of our Strong Economy, and Thier HARD LABOR Supported all other American jobs.

To: Good.

danzigsdaddy
danzigsdaddy topcommenter

shorts and a hawiaan shirt???? nice to know you respect the position you are being sworn in for dick head. what did you do? reluctantly take a shower 3 days prior to your swearing in?     friggin ass-wipe. when i was sworn in to the Marines i had a fresh shave and haircut and had on nice clothes. i took my oath serious

jonnyquest
jonnyquest topcommenter

I really do agree, ExpertShot. Why don't we require EVERY SCHOOL in America to post a sign "No firearms allowed"? Just think of all the lives that will be saved.

jonnyquest
jonnyquest topcommenter

I agree. It's too bad that theater in Aurora didn't have a sign prohibiting firearms. All those people would be alive today.

valleynative
valleynative topcommenter

@ExpertShot @valleynative   You can't buy a gun online without a background check.  Guns can only be shipped to licensed dealers, who perform the background check, charge a fee, and hand you the firearm.  Very few guns are sold in gun show parking lots.  Most criminals get their guns either from other criminals or by asking friends who can pass the background check to buy one for them.  "Universal background checks" would do absolutely nothing to stop either of those.

90% of the population answer "sure" when asked if "universal background checks" sounds like a good idea, but when you sit those people down and explain what the bill would have actually done and not done, most wouldn't like it at all.


sarum
sarum

@DNichols False, It was the economy, False greedy banksters caused it and was predicted a decade prior by reliable sources, False - actually myopic, hardly, absolutely false, America must quit listening to the race baiters and recognize and address class warfare if we are to recover, I thought so too - now I am thinking people don't change that much - prolly was just ink on paper just like today, actually http://www.therightscoop.com/must-listen-ice-union-president-exposes-obama-admin-lies-on-immigration-enforcement/,  patently false - in the 1970's university professors, in recognition of the changes made in this nation, were warning students that in all likelihood they would not even be able to achieve their parents level of success during their working life, just absolutely false . . . 

http://hometownstation.com/santa-clarita-news/welfare-undocumented-immigrants-jumps-54-million-march-34979


http://cnsnews.com/blog/joe-schoffstall/us-will-need-create-unprecedented-35-million-new-jobs-if-immigration-bill

DNichols
DNichols

@danzigsdaddy:

He had the "Cat scratch fever." after earning Arpaio's "Junior Deputy Badge" under Arpaio's Desk.

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