Is Having a "Redneck Day" at School a Poor Choice?

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Students at Queen Creek High School, with the apparent blessing of the school's administrators, had a "Redneck Day" at school this week for the purposes of "school spirit."

As you can probably imagine, things went a little sour when one student showed up draped in a Confederate flag.

See also:
-"Redneck Day," Complete With Confederate Flag, Turns Out to Be a Bad Idea

Aside from some African-American students and their parents being offended by the event, the term "redneck" is degrading too, although it appears that the folks at Queen Creek High School didn't interpret it that way.

The district administrator told the Arizona Republic there was no ill intent, but that "the only intent of Wednesday's event was to satirize the A&E reality TV show 'Duck Dynasty.'"

But imagine you're running the school, and the youngsters propose to you that they want "Redneck Day" held at school this week. Do you think it's a good idea?

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sarum
sarum

hm hm hm hm hm hm hm . . . . 

Marco Cruz
Marco Cruz

Bringing confederate flag bad but burning the US flag and hoisting the mexican flag at school ok?

sarum
sarum

40 odd years ago the feminists proved by our language that we are sexist.  They said we had more derogatory terms for women and their body parts than men and they would wear huge buttons with all the terms on them . . . "bitch, witch, cunt, whore, slut, shrew, boob, bimbo" and so on . . . 

So I have been racking my brain for derogatory terms for poor ethnic peoples but honestly there seems to be more terms for poor whites  and then poor blacks run second.  I know the least terms in American English for other poor minorities like Mexican, and especially none for NDN's. So I am thinking that once again, linguistically is our proof of truth.  

But I like this Jim Goad "Redneck Manifesto" guy because all the descriptors say he believes that class warfare is source of problems and racism is fomented for divide & conquer and this is the way I believe as well.   Furthermore I see that white people have done the most self correction to stop racism whereas most minorities have codified reverse racism into their cultural empowerment which I personally disagree with.  

So carry on with your race baiting redneck jokes tools!

OATHKEEPER1958
OATHKEEPER1958

NOW YALL ARE ANTI REDNECK WELL I SAW THIS COMING ESPECIALLY FROM THIS ZION CONTROLLED MEDIA.  LIKE THEY SAY EVERYBODY LAUGH AT THE REDNECK TIL THE ZOMBIE APOCOLAYPSE HITS, THEN YALL BE RUNNING TOWARDS US WANTIN' US TO SAVE YA!!!

marcy
marcy

What do you call a redneck who has a PhD?

Nobody knows

Why did the redneck marry his sister?

His mom turned him down

marcy
marcy

What do you call a van full of rednecks?

A box of crackers

What do you call rednecks who have been swimming in the ocean?

Saltines


marcy
marcy

Brett Saltus is an example of a redneck.  He also red pecker from rubbing it in public in front of little girls.  

Yes, he has a pickup truck and thinks fine dining is having a burger made his way at Burger King.

robert_graham
robert_graham

If there should not be a "Redneck day" then Cinco de Mayo should be cancelled. Why do you feel it is okay for Hispanics to celebrate their culture but not okay for white people to do the same?

Tommy_Collins
Tommy_Collins

In Arizona this is a statement of pride. Those involved will someday be leaders in Arizona legislation, perhaps even governor; if they can dumb themselves down enough to attain the level of our current governor.

Francisco Cortez
Francisco Cortez

This is like saying it's OK to be a racist at school for a day.

Joe Rollins
Joe Rollins

Having rednecks in this country is a poor choice.

danzigsdaddy
danzigsdaddy topcommenter

this is the day and age of political correctness gone rampant. EVERTHING will offend someone at some point, so when an idea is proposed that starts out with a name that has stereotypical meaning................you know its going to offend someone or at the very least a large group of someones. bad choice. 

marcy
marcy

@Marco Cruz 

Let us all know what Arizona high school has sanctioned a US flag burning.  None.

The flag of Mexico is the flag of a sovereign country recognized by the US.

The confederate flag is the flag of a failed insurrection by a group of states that wanted to maintain their right to enslave black people.

Flyer9753
Flyer9753 topcommenter

@sarum  

Rednecks aren't a race or gender in and of themselves, so the jokes towards them are not race baiting

IdontRecall
IdontRecall

@HILLFOLKREDNECK. OHHH NNNNOOOOOOO,  the ZOMBIE APOCOLAYPSE IS COMMING..........EVERYBODY RUN FOR THE HILLS.......THE REDNECKS ARE GOING TO SAVE US............PLEASE REDNECK SAVE ME.........SAVE ME PLLLEEASSEEE...BUAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA. L M F A O.

PS. DON'T FORGET TO MILK THE DONKEY.

DNichols
DNichols

@ Arpaio's Butt Plug (JAF)

For the record: Cinco de Mayo is an insignificant day to "Hispanic's" the real Mexican Independence Day is celebrated by "Hispanic's" on September 16th.

Cinco de Mayo is an American excuse for us to get Drunk on Margarita's, admire Beatiful Mexican Women,  and eat delicious Mexican Food.

You must be a true "Redneck" not to know this?!

Do a little research next time before you spout your Racist Views?!!

marcy
marcy

@JoeArpaioFan 

By definition, rednecks have no culture.  A celebration of ill-manners, marrying your sister and underachievement has no place in public schools.

Flyer9753
Flyer9753 topcommenter

@danzigsdaddy  

While I agree that many things/people have and are becoming 'too' PC, I would say the line gets drawn when ones actions, be it a group or an individual,  directly infringe on the rights of another, as happened in this case. 

Society decides as a whole, through our votes and the law, what is a right and what isn't. The law is an expression of that decision.

Don't like that? Don't live in a society. Buy an island and live by the rule of law that your 'might' gives you, otherwise accept what society decides as a whole. (not meaning you personally there)

Aside from those instances where someones rights or the law (societies rights) are being violated, the complainers are just that, complainers and proves the adage that you can please some of the people all of the time, but you cannot please all of the people all of the time.

brendalee1
brendalee1

@danzigsdaddy I really don't see where such "Political Correctness" is a bad thing. It means we are evolving as a society and being sensitive and empathetic to the needs and feelings of others.

sarum
sarum

@Flyer9753 @sarumYou mean there are Mexican rednecks?  African descent rednecks?  Why don't you get a dictionary to help you read correctly before responding?  I never said redneck is a gender I was making a historical comparison looking for truth and racebaiting is racebaiting is racebaiting.  No excuses.  No double standards.

ExpertShot
ExpertShot topcommenter

@DNicholsActually, Cinco de Mayo is an important holiday for the UNITED STATES!  Without the defeat of Napoleon's Armada on the Day of the Battle of Puebla on May 5, 1862, this country may well have been defeated by the REDNECKS in the US Civil War and we would still have slavery in this country. From Wikipedia:

In late 1861, the French Fleet stormed Veracruz Mexico.  During the advance of Napaleon's troops towards Mexico City, near Puebla, Mexico, at the Mexican forts of Loreto and Guadalupe, the 8,000-strong French army attacked the much smaller and poorly equipped Mexican army of 4,500. Yet, on May 5, 1862, the Mexicans managed to decisively crush the French army, then considered "the premier army in the world."

While the victory was a symbolic victory for Mexico, as the French ultimately conquered Mexico. However, had Mexico not defeated the French in Puebla on May 5, 1862, France would have gone to the aid of the South in the U.S. Civil War in order to free Southern ports of the Union blockade.  Had the French defeated México at Puebla, France would have aided the South in the American Civil War and the United States' destiny could have been very different.  We might have been speaking French or worse - REDNECK!

Read your history - hicks.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Cinco_de_mayo

robert_graham
robert_graham

@marcy @JoeArpaioFan Cinco de Mayo has, by the way, been changed to "report an illegal day". Does Mexico celebrate the 4th of July? Of course they don't so why then should we celebrate Cinco de Mayo?

sarum
sarum

@marcyReally?  I liked that White Trash Cookbook.  Came out about 25 years ago.   Made me laugh.  But isn't food a manifestation of culture?  Or is there a distinction between "white trash" and "redneck" that I am missing?

danzigsdaddy
danzigsdaddy topcommenter

@brendalee1 not saying it is right or wrong in this case, just saying that people really need to think more before saying or doing things. these days it seems like everyone is offending someone to the point of legal action

sarum
sarum

@sarum Trivial Pursuit?  Frank White, Frank Moten, Frank Lucas.  Different knowledge set for a different place & time.  But ignorance could be costly.  

sarum
sarum

@marcy Ignorant of what exactly?  The NYT, AP, Society of Professional Journalists approved linguistic acrobatics designed to thwart what little logic remains in the population at large?   You mean those folks who totally did not comment on the President's most recent speech interrupting prime time TV?   Those intellectually dishonest people with no souls who get paid the big bucks to divert our attention, distort our sensibilities and pervert dialogue (oh yeah, just like so many here.)

Nice try but I don't see you quoting or linking to any official recognized source.  I'd like to see your equation of African-American redneck.  he he he

I may live in West Texas in a trailer but I have just as developed a knowledge set as yours - it just happens to be different knowledge.  And when you get stranded in my country I will be the one sneering.

I may live in East LA in a vermin infested slum but have survival skills  par excellence and I can smell intellectual bullshit and the stench of an empty heart - come tell Loco White Fence about how ignorant redneck we are.  Bring it.



marcy
marcy

@sarum @marcy 

No, bigots who equate "Mexican" with brown skinned Hispanics are the ones who confuse Mexican with a race.

There are Mexicans as light skinned as any American and to the extent that they live in trailer parks, drive pickup trucks and live their lives mired in ignorance they can also proudly claim to be rednecks.

sarum
sarum

@marcy  La Raza types and all apologists who accuse US citizens against amnesty as racist are the ones who create the Mexicans as a race.   Because I use the PC term "African-American" so that I might be understood does not equate the ignorance that you are trying to tar and feather me with, SWEETIE RACEBAITER.

Still waiting for someone to come up with the definition of "redneck" that includes Mexican and African-American as "Flyer" states.   I haven't seen it. Guess you are going to have to create it.

marcy
marcy

@sarum @Flyer9753 

Do you understand that "Mexican" isn't a race any more than "American" is a race?  Do you understand that not all people who live in Africa are black?

You seem seriously out of touch with the real world sweetie.

sarum
sarum

@Flyer9753 @sarum Oh Pleeeze Ms. Sleeze!  Let your fingers do the walking!  Definition of "redneck." I don't see any race mentioned but the euro "white" race - ALL of the definitions say "WHITE" -  please share your source that says black and browns are also covered by "redneck."  OMG, this is like playing Scrabble with a 6 year old!

Flyer9753
Flyer9753 topcommenter

@sarum@Flyer9753

Yes, there are mexican rednecks, african american rednecks and rednecks of almost every ethnicity you can think of.

"So carry on with your race baiting redneck jokes tools!"

You accused those making redneck jokes of race baiting right there, those are your words, so you did state that redneck was comparable to a race, since you called the jokes race baiting.

Redneck is not a race, so your statement about race baiting is false.

ExpertShot
ExpertShot topcommenter

@Flyer9753@ExpertShot@DNicholsShe is incorrect in that not everyone has "perverted it".  It was the beer manufacturers in the 1980s who started the so-called "Americanization" of the holiday.  Blame capitalism if you have to blame anyone for that.  A lot of Hispanics US DEFINATELY embrace the Americanization of it. 

But again - read your history you ignorant back-country pig-fuggin racist HICKS! (if you are not one of the described persons - do not get pissy with me as I did not mean you - JAF, feel free to get pissy).

http://www.cnn.com/2012/05/05/us/cinco-de-mayo-origins/index.html
TIME magazine reports that "Cinco de Mayo started to come into vogue in 1940s America during the rise of the Chicano movement."

"In Mexico today, Cinco de Mayo means the Mexican army defeated the French army," he continued. "In California and Oregon, the news was interpreted as finally that the army of freedom and democracy won a big one against the army of slavery and elitism. And the fact that those two armies had to meet in Mexico was immaterial because they were fighting for the same issues -- defending freedom and democracy. Latinos were joining the Union army, Union cavalry, Union navy.

"The French goal was to eliminate democracy, and remember that Mexico had democracy only for 30 or 40 years at that point," he added. "Remember, Europe was ruled mostly by monarchs."


Flyer9753
Flyer9753 topcommenter

@ExpertShot @DNichols  

I think you are both right.

Cinco de Mayo is an important US 'holiday' for exactly the reasons that you state Expert, however DNichols is also correct in that like many things in the US, we Americans have perverted it to be a commercialized party for our own benefit (the excuse to get drunk, party, have fun, ogle hot hispanic women, etc..), while most Hispanics celebrate it's truer roots and ignore the Americanization of it.

IdontRecall
IdontRecall

@JAFFY, Jaffy I want to "report an illegal day", canU tell me where can I do so?..........see, I want to report Monday as an "Illegal day", 'cause I hate that day. I look forward 4 U to provide me with an address or phone #  where I can report it.

Flyer9753
Flyer9753 topcommenter

@JoeArpaioFan @marcy  

Lie. 

Americans in Mexico do in fact celebrate 4th of July, so do many of the communities that they live in, out of respect for their American residents/visitors

The celebration of Cinco de Mayo in the communities in the southwest is no different.

I would normally think your ignorance of this is astounding, but then I remember who is making the comment and your ignorance is no longer astounding, just sad.

BTW - when are you going to post my name like you said???? 

sarum
sarum

@Flyer9753 @sarum WHATEVER!  You are as tedious a snitpicker as any shrew, seriously.  Sorry I am trying to multi-task and don't have as much free time as you.  Business slow?  And a dictionary is useless for this problem.  Maybe if you weren't such a chronically hostile bitch I would have understood your comment to be directed to the writer of the definition vs. the writer who posted but oh yeah, everything is ALWAYS my fault when you come around.  Go take your chill pills already!

Flyer9753
Flyer9753 topcommenter

@sarum @Flyer9753  

So because you can't read and/or comprehend I have to be more specific to accomodate you? I was specific in my comment and any reasonable person can not say otherwise.

Not my problem you did not read and instead jumped before looking, literally.

Perhaps in the future you should read the comment and break out the dictionary as you need so that YOU don't make false accusations and attacks in the future - i.e. take responsibility for yourself and stop trying to tell others they need to 'accommodate' you.

sarum
sarum

@Flyer9753  Errr . . . you usually are in attack mode, especially in regards to me so perhaps in the future you can be more specific as to which writer you are choosing to characterize.  Furthermore, there are plenty more definitions out there so regardless of my initial ignorance these varying terms do have varying meaning of great importance to some and I think that it behooves myself to acquire an understanding and sensitivity just as I try to with any other ethnic group.  I would hope that everyone's goal of PC sensitivity does not stop as soon as they see "white."   Sorry but I am not ready to be dismissive of any ethnic group en toto.  

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/White_trash

http://answers.yahoo.com/question/index?qid=20060801184208AAk7iyO

http://rednecks.ws/whats-the-difference-between-rednecks-hillbillies-white-trash-trailer-trash-etc.html

And a book I now want to read;

http://www.goodreads.com/book/show/81201.The_Redneck_Manifesto

After;

http://www.goodreads.com/book/show/208180.Jesus_and_the_Disinherited


Flyer9753
Flyer9753 topcommenter

@sarum @Flyer9753  

I did not call you an 'it' or a 'redneck'... unless you are the author of that web page you posted.

I simply gave my opinion of the web page you posted, not of you, so why are you attacking me? 

I was not attacking you, but like usual, you attempt to spin things and take them out of context so that you can attack me.

sarum
sarum

@Flyer9753  HUH?  I took the time to ask my own question on the internet.  Got rapid answer.  "Splains to me why I have, on occasion, been the recipient of wonderful hillbilly hospitality despite my ethnic composition not predisposing me to have the opportunity to be the recipient of that happy experience yet you decide that open mindedness and willingness to learn means that I am an "it" and a "redneck?"  Cuckoo!  Cuckoo! (To borrow your own past phraseology.)

Flyer9753
Flyer9753 topcommenter

@sarum @marcy  

Clearly written by a redneck who is also white trash, as most are, but wants to make his redneck white trash ass feel better about itself as well as attempting to make others stop calling him redneck white trash, even though that is the truth for the vast majority of both.

Few on either side, redneck or white trash, do not find themselves at home in the others camp.

sarum
sarum

@danzigsdaddy  Agreed.   Seems like more than a decade now that the only acceptable jokes are at the expense of rednecks and I have been seeing some people pointing out that it is just as wrong.  

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