Jeremy West, Man Who Rode Phoenix School Bus With a Gun, Says He Was Hearing Voices

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Phoenix police discovered the apparent reason that 29-year-old Jeremy West hopped on a school bus with a gun and took a ride to an elementary school last week.

According to court documents obtained by New Times, West told police he got on the bus -- which transports special-education students -- because he "was hearing voices" and thought people were trying to kill him.

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That doesn't really explain the whole series of events last week, though, which started with West approaching a 14-year-old kid who was dropped off at his house near Georgia Avenue and 27th Avenue on Wednesday afternoon.

The kid later told police that this guy, whom he didn't know, approached him near his house and asked him if he wanted "a cigarette or a fix." The kid told West to leave him alone and went home, according to police.

Thursday morning, the kid got on the bus to go to Simpson Elementary School, and West got on the bus right behind him, and they sat down at the back of the bus.

Both the bus driver an adult "bus assistant" asked West what he was doing, and he said he was helping out the kid he'd followed on to the bus.

This explanation apparently worked until they arrived at the school, which is on the east side of I-17. At that point, West asked where the nearest church was, and walked away from the school.

Meanwhile, a 13-year-old kid on the bus found a fully loaded magazine on the seat where West was sitting.

West was identified, thanks to cameras on school buses, and tracked down to an apartment, not far from the school, and even closer to the home of the kid he'd allegedly approached the day before.

West directed police to his loaded Ruger handgun, and although West admitted to getting on the bus, and leaving the loaded magazine there, he denied bringing the rest of the gun on the bus.

Somehow, the children on the bus were able to describe what West's gun looked like, since it was sticking out of his pocket, according to court documents.

West told police he hopped on the bus because he was hearing the voices and "feared for his life." West believed people were trying to kill him, but he didn't know who, according to the documents.

According to court paperwork, West was being held in isolation in jail as his bond was set at $45,000 on a felony endangerment charge.


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quad_together
quad_together

if his mom had not used money his hole life to keep him out of trouble he probly be dif person


valleynative
valleynative topcommenter

danzigsdaddy.

Think about the new mother suffering post-partum depression.  She might decide she needs to be seen as an inpatient, either because of the severity of her symptoms or because insurance coverage requires it.

Post-partum depression is completely reversible, as are many other reasons for seeking mental health care.

Are you seriously putting your foot down and saying that there may not be any route by which she could ever be allowed to own a firearm again?   You don't think she could be evaluated by appropriate authorities and have her rights restored?

 

danzigsdaddy
danzigsdaddy topcommenter

among many of the flaws in the proposed or implemented systems that have been put forth already to protect the kids ---  where were the "Seagal Method" trained posse members when this guy got off the bus at the school and why didnt they recognize and neutralize the threat?     how would a armed teacher AT the school have helped these kids IF something went wrong on the bus?  how would the background check have found this guy was high on meth or whatever and hearing voices that day?   how would Jan Brewers restoring gun rights to people with mental illness histories have stopped this guy from getting obviously high and hearing voices that week and getting on a bus?   everything was a complete failure. even the bus driver should have had some concerns, they drive those kids every day and should have noticed something out of the ordinary (granted, if the driver approached him...it could have set him off, so the driver might have done the right thing by NOT approaching him)   all i am saying is that people keep coming up with ineffective plans and keep congratulating themselves for coming up with successful plans (and they are not) instead of addressing problem areas like MENTAL HEALTH problems and drug addiction which will lead into situations like this. we need to devote some time and energy into recognizing and dealing with the Jared Laughners and Adam Lanza's or Jeremy West's, not calling in Seagal to train people or figuring out which guy at the school is the best choice to arm, and we most definitely dont need to allow for the restoration of gun rights to people who do display histories of mental illness

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valleynative
valleynative topcommenter

Apparently, the population of this district is so poor that they've been allowing parents to ride the bus in order to get to parent/teacher conferences, etc.  That policy has now changed.  Parents who want to ride the bus will have to first register as "school volunteers", which requires fingerprinting and an FBI and DPS background check.  They'll be issued photo ids.



sliperymike
sliperymike

real fucking geniuses  we have watching/protecting our kids,letting an armed "jarrod laughner" on the bus,like it was normal!!!!

these guys should be fired,with 9% unemployment we can afford to hire quality people to drive a bus.

some edumacation system we have HORNE! thanks

danzigsdaddy
danzigsdaddy topcommenter

@valleynative  most of the authorities who are questioning their patients can be fooled in a false prognosis. many suicides occur because NOBODY saw the warning signs and I am sure many of them could have been under the care of a trained professional who also missed those warning signs. I am saying we need to be able to see these problems better in order to seperate the the normal depression case from the clinical cases because those are the potential ticking time bombs

danzigsdaddy
danzigsdaddy topcommenter

@valleynative   i said HISTORIES of mental illness, and there have also been cases of mothers with post partum that have gone over the edge completely. i said we need to devote some time and energy into recognizing and treating mental illness. if you are taking me saying  that we need to better understand and know about mental illness and how to identify it as to mean that because someone is suffering depression to mean they are unstable.....then you arent understanding mental illness either. lots of people suffer from mental illness and it goes unrecognized on many different levels we need to find out more on how to recognize the people who WILL turn into the Adam Lanza's 

david_saint01
david_saint01 topcommenter

@valleynative if this wasnt so scary of a situation for the kids i would be using it for the gun debate...just glad this guy didnt go postal and hurt someone...

azcumsquelcher
azcumsquelcher

@sliperymike this guy was obviously a lunatic, look at his appearance and demeanor. How do you let that slip as the bus driver or the monitor?

valleynative
valleynative topcommenter

@danzigsdaddy  I think that Psychiatrists and Psychologists actually know better than you and the legislature, and that if you also throw in a judge and character references, you can be more certain than a former patient is stable than you can of the average person on the street.  It's really very rare for a trained mental health professional to be surprised by a patient, although, of course, those will be the only cases you would EVER hear about, so the frequency will be exaggerated in what your mind believes is "experience".  That's how our brains fool us into believing that rare events are actually common.


valleynative
valleynative topcommenter

@danzigsdaddy I agree that we need to be able to identify dangerous people, but the flip side of that is that we need to raise awareness that seeking help does NOT mean that a person is dangerous.  Most forms of mental health issues do not make the person dangerous at all.

If you have your way, and once a person has been admitted, they're permanently classified among the "unstable", then people will not be willing to seek help.

valleynative
valleynative topcommenter

@david_saint01 This is the sort of case that Homeland Security would say shows the success of the system.   He'll never be allowed to legally possess a firearm again.

Of course, it also shows the weakness of "universal background checks", since this lunatic wouldn't have been in any "background check" database until now.

valleynative
valleynative topcommenter

@Tommy_Collins  If they can't get a DL, it's really unlikely that they'd be willing to give their name, address and fingerprints to the FBI and DPS.

valleynative
valleynative topcommenter

@danzigsdaddy  Those who require meds in order to stay "sane" would not be allowed to own guns except under the most stringent conditions of supervision.

That doesn't mean that others shouldn't be allowed a path back to ownership, as the legislation you oppose would have provided.

danzigsdaddy
danzigsdaddy topcommenter

@valleynative and those same professionals will tell you that there is no certainty in the future with mental illness. some people refuse to take their meds, some feel they are fine and stop taking them, some build up resistances and some have adverse side effects from a combination of medical conditions or various other factors. mental illness can strike or reccur at any moment with little or no warning. many things that are unknown can even trigger recurrances of depression or violent outbursts or any other problem

valleynative
valleynative topcommenter

@danzigsdaddy  You seem to oppose legislation that would provide a reasonable path back to full rights regarding gun ownership for people who have been in mental institutions.

The overwhelming majority of people who have been institutionalized are harmless.  There is no reason for them to be barred from gun ownership.  

People who work with mental patients understand this, and do not release people who they consider to be a danger to themselves or others.


danzigsdaddy
danzigsdaddy topcommenter

@valleynative  ?????? if i have my way they will be permanently classified??????????  at what point did you turn me saying we need to recognize mental health problems to pick out the Adam Lanza's to mean that anyone who seeks help is a permanent psyche case? for a minute there, you almost were catching what i was saying, until you came up with that crap. i even said there are varying degrees of mental illness and yet you are now trying to put me as saying something else. it seems  to me you are the one who really doesnt understand mental illness at this point. people can be cured, yes, but professionals in the mental health field can also be fooled, hence WE NEED TO UNDERSTAND MENTAL HEALTH ISSUES BETTER.  maybe if you read what i said a little more carefully instead of trying to jump to the conclussion that i am trying to condemn people for seeking help. part of understanding mental health issues will also help the people who need it know we are there to help them instead of demonizing them.

azcumsquelcher
azcumsquelcher

@valleynative @david_saint01 exactly, it almost requires people to self-report their mental health to the government. Who would every do that, insane or not? Unless you get thrown on the list while still a child or under the supervision of others, you probably won't be identified as a threat until it's too late

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