Jeff Flake Thinks His Popularity Is "Somewhere Just Below Pond Scum"

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Senator Jeff Flake, upon discovering that his approval rating was found to be one of the worst in the country, says "that probably puts me somewhere just below pond scum" on the popularity scale.

Public Policy Polling found that Flake's approval rating among Arizonans is 32 percent, and that, coupled with his high disapproval rating, made him the least-popular Senator, according to PPP polls.

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"Nothing like waking up to a poll saying you're the nation's least popular senator," Flake posted on Facebook. "Given the public's dim view of Congress in general, that probably puts me somewhere just below pond scum."

The polling firm found that a lot of the distaste for Flake was for his voting against the "Manchin-Toomey" amendment, which called for strengthening background checks for gun sales.

Flake hasn't really defended his vote.

"It was a popular amendment, and I voted against it," Flake's Facebook post says. "This afternoon I came across this piece written by the Arizona Republic's Joanna Allhands. It captures the complexity of the issue better than anything I've read."

That piece can be found here, and if that piece "captures the complexity of the issue" better than anything Flake's read, he obviously hasn't read too much.

From that piece:

I realize I'm in the minority, but I respect Flake more after his supposed "cowardly" vote. Maybe his views on guns don't perfectly mirror mine, but I like that they aren't black and white. They don't fit into the "you're either 100 percent for or 100 percent against" arguments that most politicians are repeating.

I understand that's why Flake got such negative reaction. Like immigration, gun violence is a complicated, emotional issue that people have oversimplified.

Notice it's devoid of any fact.

Remember Flake's explanation of his opposition to the amendment, despite claiming that he supported "strengthened" background checks?

"Manchin-Toomey would expand background checks far beyond commercial sales to include almost all private transfers -- including between friends and neighbors -- if the posting or display of the ad for a firearm was made public," he wrote. "It would likely even extend to message boards, like the one in an office kitchen. This simply goes too far."

That's interesting, considering what Senators Manchin and Toomey said.

"As under current law, transfers between family, friends, and neighbors do not require background checks," their explanation said. "You can give or sell a gun to your brother, your neighbor, your coworker without a background check. You can post a gun for sale on the cork bulletin board at your church or your job without a background check."

Perhaps it's a coincidence, but Flake's claims were very similar to the claims made by the NRA, which were debunked by PolitiFact. You can read the text of the amendment and judge it yourself.

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azwi
azwi

That's exact what Flake is POND SCUM!  Flake is run by his puppeteer, John McCain. When McCain says shit Flake shits. 

Howard Lee
Howard Lee

Flake is prone to giving himself too much credit.

Cindy Larson
Cindy Larson

He's an arrogant asshat and could care less about his popularity because he's beginning a six year term.

Ted Meyer
Ted Meyer

yes go with pond scum and ya ur not funny ur whore to the NRA

Sue White
Sue White

May it further sink to pond bottom....

shadeaux14
shadeaux14

Can't have strengthened background checks. Everybody knows that will lead to registration and then that damn Kenyan Muslim Mafia Don will send in the black helicopters to grab all your guns. Either that or he'll have some kid with a joystick fly in a "Stinger" enema for you. Let's see how much good your AK, Bushmaster, Colt SA do you then.

This is the ultimate reason the gun "enthusiasts" give for not controlling the sales of guns. "We gots to be able to defend ourselves against an oppressive, tyrannical government"

Yeah, good luck with that. You got something that will intercept a missile or a drone? NO? Then bow down to the Kenyan and kiss your ass goodbye.

James Stouffer
James Stouffer

oh my god, can my life possibly get more weird......

Nick D Waters
Nick D Waters

Pond scum has intrinsic ecological value. Flake? Not so much.

valleynative
valleynative topcommenter

The article cited above isn't "devoid of any fact".  The fact it points out is simply uncomfortable to Matthew, who prefers to believe that you must be 100% for something or 100% against it.


Matthew still fails to understand the difference between "strengthen" and "expand".  Believing that applying the current weak background checks in a few more situations somehow "strengthens" them is actually a little sad.

It reminds me of an idiot employer who once tried to satisfy his employees' demands for more food choices in the break room by stocking a larger quantity of the same selections.  Like Matthew, he didn't understand that more of the same isn't what was needed.

Eric Voise
Eric Voise

Not by me either, Walt, trust me. But most of the constituents who put him in office in the first place either agreed with his vote, or were too stupid to even pay attention in the first place, so they'll just blindly vote for him again in 2018. Let's face it, Senators' terms are two years too long to begin with. No term should be more than four years, and no office should be allowed more than two consecutive terms either.

Don Blank
Don Blank

Can't answer him, they have blocked me.

Stephen Grange
Stephen Grange

Well, you know Jeff, that is what happens when you lie like a bought piece of shit in writing to the mother of a murdered child...

Cozz
Cozz

99.9% of all Arizona politicians are pond scum.

Henry Martinez
Henry Martinez

thats a clever way to say his followers are merely pond scum at best.

Clint W Clark
Clint W Clark

Give us all a break and crawl back under that rock where Newton was hiding for all those years....

Walt Creed
Walt Creed

Not by me... how do these morons live with themselves if someone gets a gun that these checks would have prevented and does something horrible with it?

Eric Voise
Eric Voise

But unfortunately we're stuck with this moron for another 5 1/2 years, and by then this vote will be long forgotten.

Jasmine Michaels
Jasmine Michaels

That's what you get for listening to gun lobbies and nutjobs here in AZ. I don't feel a damn bit sorry for this tool.

Walt Creed
Walt Creed

Again he overestimates himself..

eric.nelson745
eric.nelson745 topcommenter

There is nothing complicated about gun violence. It begins with the fact that there are too many guns out there. Nearly one for every man, woman and child in the US of A. Then there's the fact that it's way too easy to get one for whatever purpose you might have. If you're in a hurry to purchase a handgun, it must be because you intend to shoot someone. Then there's the simple fact that too many crazy and incompetent people have access to guns. Most gun owners are fine, upstanding citizens. Yet sometimes they forget to properly secure their weapons. That leads, far too often, in grandpa's six-shooter being taken by one of the grandkids for some good clean fun. We know all to well what happens next.  I haven't even scratched the surface of the plethora of reasons guns are a constant danger in this country. Oh, did I mention that stolen handguns are most often used in robberies where a shop owner dies for no good reason? Pow! Pow! folks.

valleynative
valleynative topcommenter

What the bill says is that there has to be a background check if the sale is published.

Whether it's what the authors intended or not, lawyers are probably going to tell you that an ad on a cork bulletin board has been "published".

The authors of the bill don't get to decide what it means.  That's up to the courts.


valleynative
valleynative topcommenter

@shadeaux14  While that's not why I protect my right to defend myself, do you really think that the US military would be more successful against Americans than it's been against any other civilian insurrection force in the past 20 years?  Do you think our soldiers would follow a corrupt government against the people?  Do you think they'd use missiles against civilians?

JohnQ.Public
JohnQ.Public

@valleynative Yes, the bill would have strengethend background checks.  The bill would have awarded grants to states for the specific purpose of making their records compatible with the NCIS and thereby make it easier for them to transmit their records to the NICS, thereby clearly strengthen background checks by making more information available for review and improving the quality of information being reviewed.  The bill would have also strengthened background checks by making more sales subject to background checks. 

The bill would not have "expanded" background checks in that the bill would not have added any additional types of checks - meaning that 18 USC 922(d) contains 9 reasons a person would be prohibited from purchasing a firearm - Manchin-Toomey did nothing to expand that list.  So this bill strengthened background checks in several ways but did not expand them because it did not expand the issues that the background checks check for.

REALITYSAYS
REALITYSAYS

99.9% of all politicians are pond scum.  Fixed that for you.

valleynative
valleynative topcommenter

@eric.nelson745 Have you seen the statistics?  It's extremely unlikely that a gun owned by an honest citizen will ever kill anybody.  It's several thousand times less likely than the chances that any given automobile will kill, for example.  On top of that, gun violence has been trending steadily downward, while gun ownership has not.  Any thoughts on that?

JohnQ.Public
JohnQ.Public

@eric.nelson745 "If you're in a hurry to purchase a handgun, it must be because you intend to shoot someone."  That's the most ludicrous thing I've ever heard. Not only that, this bill would not have created or extended waiting periods.  If anything it reduced the time that a person would have to wait for the completion of a background check from 3 days to 2 days (although most are done in under 5 minutes).  While the bill was a reasonable bill, your comments capture absolutely none of the reasons that it was a reasonable bill.

JohnQ.Public
JohnQ.Public

@valleynative The bill says: "it shall be unlawful for any person other than a licensed dealer, licensed manufacturer, or licensed importer to complete the transfer of a firearm to any other person who is not licensed under this chapter, if such transfer occurs- (A) at a gun show or event, on the curtilage thereof; or (B) pursuant to an advertisement, posting, display or other listing on the Internet or in a publication by the transferor of his intent to transfer, or the transferee of his intent to acquire, the firearm" unless the the background check requirements are complied with.

Lets look at that "published' (your term) requirement more closely - it applies to sales that are "pursuant to an advertisement, posting, display or other listing on the Internet or in a publication."   How exactly does that apply to "an ad on a cork bulletin board"?  Seems like quite a stretch to me - even for the courts.

eric.nelson745
eric.nelson745 topcommenter

@valleynative Wouldn't that include sales at gun shows? The event is advertised on billboards and on tv all over the place.

valleynative
valleynative topcommenter

@JohnQ.Public Your terminology of expanded vs strengthened is also valid.

So why do people reject Flake's use?  Either "expand" or "strengthen" can be used to refer to checking for more things.   There are other bills that do even more to strengthen the content of the checks, without interfering with private sales.

Bnbk
Bnbk

@valleynative @eric.nelson745 How long has it been since you've been to a gun show. You are incorrect. The last gun show I went to there were many people selling firearms and ammo with out a dealers license. There were people walking within the crowd with sale signs for both firearms and ammo.  I witnessed sales of both fierarms and ammo without even an ID check let alone a background check. If a criminal wants to buy a gun the gun shows are the place they go. You can buy anything, no questions asked.

valleynative
valleynative topcommenter

@JohnQ.Public What does "publication" mean to a lawyer:

anything made public by print (as in a newspaper, magazine, pamphlet, letter, telegram, computer modem or program, poster, brochure or pamphlet), orally, or by broadcast.

valleynative
valleynative topcommenter

@eric.nelson745 Almost all sales at gun shows already involve background checks, because the sales are by dealers.  I haven't looked at the bill in the past week, but I think it mentions shows specifically.


valleynative
valleynative topcommenter

@Bnbk @valleynative  If you ask any dealer, they are in favor of background checks for private sales because it makes private sales more expensive or forces them to use a dealer as a broker.   It certainly infringes upon my right to bear arms to have to ask the government's permission to buy one. 

Bnbk
Bnbk

@valleynative @Bnbk I also go to gun shows,while there are dealer booths,there are also many private sellers who do not even check ID. If you ask any dealer,they are in favor of backgroud checks,or for private sales to have to go thru dealers. This would help to keep firearms out of the hands of prohibited posessors,while creating more business for the gun dealers. This would also not affect anyones 2nd ammendment  rights.

valleynative
valleynative topcommenter

@Bnbk @valleynative I go to most guns shows.  Over the past 6 months or so, there have been more private sales as people try to get in before the rules change, but such sales are still a minority.  Next time you're at a gun show, look at the dealer booths.  See if any don't have somebody busy filling out the background check form.

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