Jan Brewer Signs Bill for Gun Rights (As in Giving the Rights to the Guns)

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Guns turned over during "buyback" events in Arizona may not be destroyed, according to a bill signed into law by Governor Jan Brewer.

This latest right afforded to firearms is what prompted the Daily Show's John Oliver to declare, "Arizona is such a great place to be a gun, just a [censored] place to be a person."

See also:
-Greg Stanton, Phoenix Mayor, Unveils Gun-Buyback Program
-Arizona Again on the Daily Show, This Time for "Protecting Guns From People"

Last year, Brewer signed a bill into law that prevents guns from being destroyed if they're forfeited or seized, forcing their sale to authorized dealers.

This year's bill, House Bill 2455, does the same thing for guns acquired during gun-buyback events, specifically defeating the purpose of gun-buyback events, in which people turn over guns they don't want to local governments and police departments in an effort to get the guns off the streets.

The bill specifically bans agencies from "facilitat[ing] the destruction of a firearm," with certain exemptions, so it looks like this could affect Phoenix's program, recently announced by Phoenix Mayor Greg Stanton, in which the city works with a nonprofit, using private coin.

UPDATE: The law won't go into effect until after Phoenix's buyback program ends.

Maricopa County Supervisor Mary Rose Wilcox recently wrote a letter to Brewer urging her to veto the bill, which apparently didn't win over Brewer.

"Supporters of HB 2455 argue that government resources should not be used to facilitate the destruction of guns, but I argue the very purpose of serving as a local elected official is to use tax dollars to efficiently meet the demands of our constituents," she wrote. "Gun buybacks do not violate the Second Amendment. They do not impact any resident who does not want to participate. They simply provide an option to citizens who believe their community will be a better place without more guns on the street."

Details on the bill can be found here.

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David Hagan
David Hagan

WOW - is Brewer an alien or something, she definitely neither looks nor acts human... next she'll sign a bill requiring people to adopt these poor unwanted guns... Whacko!!!

squash
squash

This totally defeats the purpose of a gun buyback program. The reason buybacks exist is so people know the guns they're turning in will be destroyed. I guess a good way around this is to just destroy/render useless the gun yourself before turning it in (be careful to make sure firearm is unloaded before destroying). 

Thane.Eichenauer
Thane.Eichenauer

"They do not impact any resident who does not want to participate."  Wrong.  Who pays for the city staff that are utilized to operate this problem?  Taxpayers.  If Stanton, Wilcox and company want to run a private gun destruction program I say let them do so (on this own time and with their own money).  

Warren Klofkorn
Warren Klofkorn

Just don't have the cops do the buy backs. Have sane people who aren't government employees do them. First stop for each gun: a large ball peen hammer to the lower receiver. Then sell them, as scrap.

Belinda Villela
Belinda Villela

This shouldn't come as a surprise after all this is AZ @ Brewer is a piece of work...... (sarcastic voice)

Liz Landis
Liz Landis

I'm not for banning guns or anything but this sounds like shady shit... wonder how much profits are going into their pockets

Walt Creed
Walt Creed

We don't need to protect people from guns, we need to protect guns from people... So lets put all of the guns in a giant vault where people can't get their hands on them and do them harm.

Walt Creed
Walt Creed

Daily show and Colbert are sending reporters now...

robert_graham
robert_graham

Hmmmm, you don't want gun rights but you want every right under the Sun for illegal aliens?  Seems pretty moronic.

logicman
logicman

this article is terrible

valleynative
valleynative topcommenter

Gun buy backs tend to have negative consequences, anyway.  They often turn into unregulated gun shows, as dealers and others show up to offer more than the city.

If you want to destroy guns, feel free to buy all you want and destroy them.

Reggievv
Reggievv

Happiness is a warm gun, bang, bang, shoot, shoot. Happiness is a warm gun, Momma, bang bang, shoot, shoot. When I hold you in my arms, oooooo, ya! when I feel my finger on your trigger, nobody can do me no harm. Change the motto of Arizona, to "Guns, Our fetish, Ooooo, ya!"

david_saint01
david_saint01 topcommenter

"yes, ill take the one with the serial numbers filed off please" lol jk...but seriously, what do they plan to do about those scenario's? 

marcy
marcy

@squash 

There is no purpose to a gun buyback program other than giving some people a false sense of accomplishment

squash
squash

@Thane.Eichenauer An equally good question to ask (in the case of selling buyback firearms to private dealers) is who pays the city staff to store the firearms and facilitate the sale of them to private dealers. Of course, the firearms that are turned in will be sold for pennies on the dollar, barely offsetting the costs of storage and sale. It's probably cheaper to just destroy them.

valleynative
valleynative topcommenter

@Warren Klofkorn  That's what I've been suggesting, but I think you're handicapping yourself by trying to find sane people who want to do such a thing, considering that the goal of such a group would seem to be to limit the right to keep and bear arms only to those who can afford to buy new, rather than used, firearms.  That seems like a difficult goal to defend.


IdontRecall
IdontRecall

@JAFFYDUCK. Hey moron, this topic is about GUNS, not about UR relatives and URself. FUCKING COCKSUCKER RACIST.

rmhopper3
rmhopper3

@JoeArpaioFan ..You are missing the point. Guns do not have rights.  Criminals surrender those rights when they are convicted and guns taken in by backs are have not been seized...there is no second amendment issue here at all...but there is a crazy issue ..and a question of influence ...,,and we surrendered our rights to deny immigrants equality when we allowed them to work for crap wages for private sector sweat shops so we wouldnt have to an extra dollar for grapefruit ......No one is proposing a free ride just sanity and fairness

david_saint01
david_saint01 topcommenter

@logicman why, because it highlights that guns have more rights than poor kids in this state?

danzigsdaddy
danzigsdaddy topcommenter

@valleynative  gun buy-backs are one thing, what i find creepy and offensive is that they are re-selling guns that were also confiscated in crimes (i've been following this story for a while). i am pro-gun, but dont think the guns that were impounded or confiscated in crimes should be being re-sold to the public. some of those guns have victims attached to them that are being insulted by the resale of those specific weapons. i wouldnt want to see the gun that shot that MCSO deputy in the face up for sale anymore than i would the ones involved in Columbine, Aurora, Sandy Hook, or any other shooting

valleynative
valleynative topcommenter

@david_saint01the law says " unless the firearm is otherwise prohibited from being sold under federal and state law."  Which would include any without serial numbers, among other things.


valleynative
valleynative topcommenter

@marcy @squash  The purpose behind destroying good firearms seems to be to make it more difficult for lower income people to be able to exercise their right to keep and bear arms, by reducing the number of used guns on the market.   I don't understand why people seem to feel that the poor are unworthy of being able to defend themselves, but I suspect that it must have to do with the stereotype that the poor are stupid or have criminal tendencies.

squash
squash

@marcy Um okay.... if a "false sense of accomplishment" means getting money and knowing that my unwanted firearm isn't going to fall into the hands of a stranger, than so be it. 

valleynative
valleynative topcommenter

@squash  Dealers will bid for the used guns, so the prices should be reasonable used gun prices.  Destroying steel isn't really cheap.


valleynative
valleynative topcommenter

@danzigsdaddy @valleynative  I certainly wouldn't want to see them identified as such so that ghoulish collectors could put them on display, but baring that, I don't see the problem.  The gun doesn't retain any sort of imprint of the crime.

marcy
marcy

@valleynative @danzigsdaddy 

I support giving victims the same right as anyone else to make an offer to purchase something that is available for sale.  Highest bidder wins

danzigsdaddy
danzigsdaddy topcommenter

@valleynative this has already been on the news a few months ago and thats when i started looking into it. it was originally started with the crime guns and confiscated guns and has been in effect since 2010

danzigsdaddy
danzigsdaddy topcommenter

@valleynative there is absolutely NOTHING indicating your idea, but it is a damn good idea. thats the best idea I've heard yet involving those weapons. (not being sarcastic either, i really like that one) it should be something they add or consider

valleynative
valleynative topcommenter

@danzigsdaddy I would support the right of victims and victim's survivors to be able to choose to have the weapon destroyed, although I don't think that's really even a factor in this bill.  I'd need to read it again but if we can trust the author of this article, it doesn't apply to guns used in crimes.

danzigsdaddy
danzigsdaddy topcommenter

@valleynative i have known both people who were victims and the ghouls you refer to and thats why i am making the observation

danzigsdaddy
danzigsdaddy topcommenter

@valleynative just a personal observation and feeling of mine. there are some people out there who would collect them as trophys and thats pretty sad

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