Will There Ever Be an Exodus from Phoenix?

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You may have noticed that Phoenix tends to get a bit warm, and the weather gets a bit weird sometimes (think "haboobs).

According to one writer, though, Phoenix is in the "climate crosshairs," and a future Superstorm Sandy-like or Hurricane Katrina-like disaster might not be unlikely.

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"In Phoenix, it's the convergence of heat, drought, and violent winds, interacting and amplifying each other that you worry about," conservationist William deBuys writes. "Generally speaking, in contemporary society, nothing that matters happens for just one reason, and in Phoenix there are all too many "reasons" primed to collaborate and produce big problems, with climate change foremost among them, juicing up the heat, the drought, and the wind to ever greater extremes, like so many sluggers on steroids."

For example, if the power grid fails on a large scale and for quite some time, then "the fallout will make the consequences of Superstorm Sandy look mild," he says.

deBuys points to several things that could spell disaster for the Phoenix metro area, including the fact that the area's getting hotter, the running-out-of-water problem, the wildfires, drought, and "its particular brand of local politics."

"Instead [of fixing the problems], one or several decades from now, people will bet on a surer thing: they'll take the road out of town," deBuys says.

Writer Tom Engelhardt doesn't have the best outlook, either.

"When the Anglo farmers of the Phoenix Basin first started using the local rivers, they found themselves 'reopening the canals the Hohokam had left behind,'" he writes. "Who knows what monumental works we, too, might someday abandon? Phoenix, anyone?"

Let's get some predictions: will there be an exodus from Phoenix in the next few decades?

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Linda Gibson
Linda Gibson

No! Too much great stuff to do all over the valley! Maybe UBBER hot but I love the dry heat over there.

eric.nelson745
eric.nelson745 topcommenter

I voted no because predictions are a dangerous thing. The future often changes, meaning that projections, which might seem to be reasonable, are often way off the mark. The biggest deficiency is water. More storage capacity is needed, and pronto. Oh yes, it is going to get hotter. A high of 130F at Sky Harbor within the next 20 years or so? That is very likely.

Terry Tarara
Terry Tarara

Of course! This city will be so hot that in order to live here you have to be a lizard. Oh wait, they're already running the gov't.

JohnQ.Public
JohnQ.Public

I am concerned that we will, one day, get to the point where there is insufficient water in the Colorado River basin to support all those that draw from it (CO, CA, NV, AZ), not have sufficient snow pack to replenish our reservoirs and have fully depleted our acquifers.  If that happens it is anyone's guess.

Dmike
Dmike

Honestly I can't believe some BS LATimes article written in opinion from a non scientific writer got so much steam.  Come on gimme a break.  What about Vegas.  What if their power grid fails.  Same thing.  But Phoenix is much worse.  LMFAO

Dmike
Dmike

Only reason I am here is because I bought a cheap house a few years back.  Without that I wouldn't have moved here.  People as long as property values are dirt cheap won't leave.  They can't

Roger Nichols
Roger Nichols

I know of an "exodus" TO Phoenix ;) We're sick of Kalifornia.

Nick Atkins
Nick Atkins

Jason, exactly the right answer. Water is the fastest depleting natural resource in the world (destroying reserves much faster than oil). Plus all the salinity added from all the damming of rivers (here it's mostly the Colorado) will make the water undrinkable and unusable for farms within 100 years. Check out the book "Cadillac Desert" for the most in-depth breakdown and history of damming and water depletion I have ever found.

Eric W. N. Mulenfeld
Eric W. N. Mulenfeld

no but the hidden cost of living here can make it difficult for the people who dont want to work for one of the good companies we have around. phoenix is too attractive to ever real estate wise to every dry up. The minimum wage is not really something you can live off of here lol.

Flyer9753
Flyer9753 topcommenter

The first Exodus from Phoenix and Arizona is already happening daily.

The exodus of people not wanting to live in a state controlled by a bunch of wackjobs, from the top of our legislature and wonderful GED Gin Jan, all the way down to our Depends wearing sheriff and his bald bunion BooBoo the next county over

JohnQ.Public
JohnQ.Public

@eric.nelson745 but only for the next couple thousand years, at which time the current interglacial period will end and the next glacial period will likely begin and 12,000 - 14,000 years from now they'll be expressing concern about ice sheets bearing down on Phoenix.

eric.nelson745
eric.nelson745 topcommenter

@JohnQ.Public When I talked about more storage capacity in my post above, I mean underground. Everything you said: spot-on, I'm afraid.

valleynative
valleynative

@Flyer9753 Arizona has had a crazy legislature and bad Governors for decades, but the people just keep coming in.

danzigsdaddy
danzigsdaddy topcommenter

@valleynative yep, they still come. but then again, mental institutions have a steady flow too

yourproductsucks
yourproductsucks

@shadeaux14 I've seen the apartment complex you live in.  It's understandable for you to feel like the entire state is a dump when you live in one.

JohnQ.Public
JohnQ.Public

@shadeaux14  disagree with that entirely.  Arizona is a big, broad, diverse state with a ton to offer.  I don't know where you hang out or who you hang out with, but I would not characterize Arizona, as a whole, a white trash magnet.  In fact, I take complete offense at it.  We have 2 very strong research universities and a great teaching university, we have terrific cultural institutions, a strong philanthropic base, etc.  While there may be pockets of low class (which is what I assume you mean by white trash), I would certainly not characterize the entire state, or even large portions of the state, that way.

sarum
sarum

@Dmike @shadeaux14 @valleynative @Flyer9753 What?  I guess this must be one of those times that Hispanic people get to celebrate their dual ethnicity as "white" euro-trash?   I'll add to your comment in that you get what you pay for.  You only want to pay "right-to-work" wages - you create human trash from people that wanted more, trained for more, dreamed of more . . . .I think RED is a great color for GOP'ers cuz the end result is the exact same as what you get under another RED party - COMMUNISM!

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