Should Ladajianna Mosley, 15, Really Be Charged With Murder as an Adult?

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Maricopa County Superior Court
Ladajianna Mosley, appearing in front of a judge in county jail.
A 15-year-old girl faces a charge of murder for allegedly shooting and killing a 17-year-old boy earlier this week while she was playing around with a gun they stole in a home burglary.

Prosecutors from the Maricopa County Attorney's Office have decided to charge her as an adult.

See also:
-Ladajianna Mosely, 15, Faces Murder Charge in Fatal Shooting of Sister's Boyfriend, 17
-Teenager Dead After Friend Plays Around With Gun They Stole in a Home Burglary

Ladajianna Mosley told police that he thought she had unloaded the .45-caliber handgun she and two others had just recently stolen after breaking into a neighbor's home. To her apparent surprise, after removing the magazine, the gun still discharged after she pointed the firearm at the chest of her sister's boyfriend, 17-year-old Raymond Berryman, and pulled the trigger.

According to court documents obtained by New Times, Mosley told police that she, Berryman, and 16-year-old Pedro Sanchez stole three guns after breaking into a house not far from her's, near 83rd Avenue and Lower Buckeye Road.

Afterward, the three of them went back to Mosley's house, and started "playing" with the guns, like when she removed the magazine from the .45-caliber handgun and pointed it at Berryman.

Mosley told police that Berryman said just before she pulled the trigger not to point the gun at him, because it was loaded, according to court documents.

Berryman ran out of the house, then collapsed on the street. Berryman, a Tolleson High School student, was pronounced dead at a hospital less than an hour later.

According to police, Sanchez and Mosely decided they would tell police that Berryman was the victim of a drive-by shooting, and she would hide the guns in a bathroom in her house, but Mosely ended up telling the cops what actually happened.

That brings us to this morning's question: should Mosley be charged as an adult?

She's only 15 years old, and it sounds like she really didn't know she would shoot Berryman.

On the other hand, she also allegedly took another boy's life, after allegedly committing a separate felony with him. Had the owner of the home and guns been at his residence, it wouldn't have been surprising to hear that Mosley and her friends were all killed, rather than Mosley facing a murder charge as an adult.

So, let's hear from you. Cast your vote below:




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63 comments
silky0517
silky0517

A person of color should always expect to get the harshest punishment.  It's an American tradition.

mutunus69
mutunus69

Wasn't Griner totally intimated by a much shorter Shoni Shimmel of Lousville who Baylor lost to in the penultimate round of the 2013 NCAA?

hartman.stephen
hartman.stephen

Makes me sick!!!!!!!!! She could have been on drugs, she could have not really been in her right mind, one in the chamber is not what a 15 year old should know, she should not have had the gun in the first place, yes, but to take away the rest of her life is only up to God, each child we take is a chance for greatness in the future. 

hartman.stephen
hartman.stephen

A man can be sentenced to years in prison for having consensual sex with a 15 year old girl, the courts say it is not consensual because the mind of a 15 year old does not fully understand the consequences. In this case it should be no different, her being a burglar would not get her tried as an adult, her past is not her potential, or did some of you forget what country we live in. 

jenniferlg777
jenniferlg777

Commit the crime, be prepared to do the time.  Of course race is a factor....If she was a white cheerleader from NoSco the charges would probably be dismissed. 

sonick55
sonick55

she didn't realize pointing a .45 at someone and pulling the trigger might result in their death ?

At age 15 ?

 

azcumsquelcher
azcumsquelcher

Is it just me who thinks there could be more to this than the accidental shooting explanation? She and the witness have already shown a propensity to be untruthful as they've already admitted to lying once. Where is the concrete evidence that says this was an accident? There is none and the idea that she accidentally killed him is based entirely off hearsay 

kendrafox5
kendrafox5

I have known Ladajianna her whole life. I was there for her first steps, her first words, and many other milestones of growing up. It breaks my heart to hear some of the things people are saying about her. She made a terrible choice followed by an even more horrific decision. She did not come from a broken family, she is loved and cared about by many people I can't imagine what these families are going through. I can't imagine living myself or raising my own children in a world where people think the best way to handle these already extremely sad situations is by throwing children in prisons. Someone actually commented she should have Saved a bullet for herself. When did people become so insensitive to kids? I do not think

Gina Wilkinson-Montague
Gina Wilkinson-Montague

common sense dictates that she be tried as an adult. sorry, all of you feel-gooders.

Gina Wilkinson-Montague
Gina Wilkinson-Montague

Eric--nice try, trying to make this about race. and you too, Mark. I'm half black, half white, and this happened around the block from my house.

Mark Weld
Mark Weld

if she was white she wouldn't be charged with murder

Eric W. N. Mulenfeld
Eric W. N. Mulenfeld

rediculous, how many times a year is there an accident when children are playing with guns?! if they give this young girl life in prison for a mistake such as this then her life is rendered pretty pointless for an otherwise careless mistake. the victim and the perpetrator knew each other as well as were in cahoots. i didn't know they were still lynching black people in this state....

john04301
john04301

Sanchez if he's legal should see a few years in juvenile detention if he is not legal he will be deported after his detention as for  Mosley she most likely will get manslaughter charge.

fairymagic13
fairymagic13

This person should be tried as an adult - she will be an adult before she finishes her sentence (which will probably be 4-7 years).  My son was shot by a friend of his - the dumbass tried to hide the guns too - which only delayed the medical treatment and helped to cause my Son's death.  He only got 4-5 years. 

Nick Gray
Nick Gray

Lmao you people are retarded saying she doesn't need to be tried as adult. Why? So her dumb ass can shoot & kill someone else? That dumb bitch needs to be in jail I don't want idiots like that out on the streets putting my life in danger.

sliperymike
sliperymike

Pedro Sanchez was there and should be charged also(per Arizona douchebag law),making everyone involved a murderer!

Joe Kennedy
Joe Kennedy

She needs to get help. At 15 they can still be rehabilitated. Sticking her prison to rot does nothing for anyone except lining the CCA's pocket. Sure she should be locked up during the rehab process, but incarceration only is a waste.

car_del99
car_del99

It was an accident.I bet you she is Black that is why she is being charged with murder..

Nick Atkins
Nick Atkins

So Gina our prison aren't already full with child rapists, REAL murderers, and gang members?? These people are the ones who need to be imprisoned. I am not saying this can go unpunished (needs to be a very long list of consequences), but our prisons are already exploding at the seams and she has a chance to turn her life around. If she is tried as an adult and sent to federal there is no turning back. I don't care who you are, when you get put into the system that early in life, there is almost no turning your life around. All she will ever know is prison. So no I don't believe she should be tried as an adult, but there needs to be SOME SERIOUS consequences.

Gina Wilkinson-Montague
Gina Wilkinson-Montague

Robert, she shot him after they committed theft, with the weapon they stole. bottom line: SHE SHOT HIM. she's not a 9 year old, who might not know NOT to pull a trigger, or NOT point a gun at someone. she's 15. she deserves prison.

bob_lablaw96
bob_lablaw96

@azcumsquelcher When your first response to shooting someone is to make up a lie to cover your ass, then you are showing a consciousness of guilt.  There was no reason to try to cover up an accident.

It seems that we are now short two burglars in the 'hood.  That is a good day, Tater!

bobsasre
bobsasre

@kendrafox5 not a broken family, yet committing felonies at age 15. Please think about what is being presented to you before you speak. OH and in my honest opinion, I don't think we should waste the taxpayers money on her. She isn't even worth that.

croft53
croft53

  a lot of twisted souls out there Kendra....

bob_lablaw96
bob_lablaw96

@kendrafox5 I am sorry that you have witnessed a wasted life.  She may well have been loveable as a child, but once she decided to become a burglar and a thief, then she was no longer loveable.

Kids do make mistakes, but I am doubting that this was her first rodeo.  Her parents must be devastated, but the victim's parents must feel some loss, too.  They lost their children to the streets, and did nothing to stop it.

Sorry...she needs to be treated as an adult.  She did a few adult crimes, and deserves nothing less.

azcumsquelcher
azcumsquelcher

@kendrafox5 We become insensitive to kids when they start breaking into our houses, stealing our shit and then shooting each other with our weapons... Is that enough?

sarum
sarum

@kendrafox5 I'm seeing some very strange results from kids whose butts I wiped, whose diapers I changed.  Yes it hurts.  But we have 1 confirmed death and an "alleged" death of another boy.  It is leaving the realm of coincidence and entering the realm of "pattern."  A deadly pattern. She needs some serious intervention/help.  I don't know where in our "system" she gets that.  

bob_lablaw96
bob_lablaw96

@Gina Wilkinson-Montague Thank you for your common sense in this issue!

david_saint01
david_saint01 topcommenter

@Gina Wilkinson-Montague explain said common sense please..

bobsasre
bobsasre

@Mark Weld Actually, there's a thing that has been created in this country called white guilt. If a white kills any person of color, then people think they should have the highest charges put on them. Look at Zimmerman vs Martin.

bob_lablaw96
bob_lablaw96

@Mark Weld If she was White she may not have been a burglar/murderer.

Your turn

croft53
croft53

@Mark Weld Agreed. Actually if her family was RICH she would not be charged (let alone with murder). Even if the kids stole the gun from a neighbors house it would be treated like a tragic accident if she lived North Scottsdale.

bob_lablaw96
bob_lablaw96

@Eric W. N. Mulenfeld Lord, help me before I find you and kick your ass!

This was not two children "playing" with something that they did not recognize as a deadly weapon.  This was two friggin felons laughing and playing with stolen property, that they knew was worth a ton to the gangsters.

The real sad thing is that the gun did not blow up and kill both of them.  Why just the guy, and not the gal?

They are not lynching Black people...just murderers. Stop apologizing for the girl.  No matter what color she is, she is a murderer.  Let me say that once more...she is a MURDERER!

don.dodondo
don.dodondo

@Eric W. N. Mulenfeld This was not "children playing with guns".  Even if you choose to believe her story, they broke into someone's house and stole the guns.  Then after shooting her "friend" she did nothing to render aide, just ran off and tried to hide the weapons.

david_saint01
david_saint01 topcommenter

@Nicholas Gray LOL for someone calling others retarded, you sure are showing some signs of downs. 

rozumbrada
rozumbrada

What about drunk drivers?  I don't want idiots like that out on the streets putting my life in danger -- but hey, so many of them are middle-aged affluent whites, no wonder they just a get 6 months probation.

This girl will likely be less dangerous than a typical dude with a DUI conviction, given the trauma and guilt she experienced (she confessed on her own).  That is unless adult prison warps her so much she will end up a lot more dangerous -- and she could end up  doing a lot more time than DUI killers.


marcy
marcy

@sliperymike 

Arizona's felony murder statute doesn't apply as the death didn't occur during the burglary.

bob_lablaw96
bob_lablaw96

@Joe Kennedy At 9, they may be able to be helped.  But a 15 year old burglar that thinks shooting a gun at a friend is beyond help.  They need to make sure that she is held until past her breeding years

I am sorry if the family reads this. But, you have to have seen this as a possibility, and let it happen

marcy
marcy

@car_del99

Do you understand that some deliberate actions that result in the death of someone, even if killing someone wasn't the objective, is defined as murder?

Second degree murder:

Under circumstances manifesting extreme indifference to human life, the person recklessly engages in conduct that creates a grave risk of death and thereby causes the death of another person

Pointing a weapon at someone and pulling the trigger meets that definition.  It is wildly reckless, it creates a grave risk of death and thereby caused the death of another person.

Deliberate actions that lead to a bad result is not an "accident", it is the outcome of a set of actions.  We just like to pretend that doing stupid things that results in a bad outcome is like a meteorite hitting us, an unforeseen "accident".   


bob_lablaw96
bob_lablaw96

@Nick Atkins She is a REAL murderer, just like the rest of them. Why treat her differently? She is not fucking Jody Arias!

don.dodondo
don.dodondo

@Nick Atkins Serious consequences = Prison.  What else is there?  For the protection of the other kids in Juvie (most of whom really are just dumb kids who made mistakes) she needs to be kept with other murderers.

bob_lablaw96
bob_lablaw96

@croft53 How many years did it take to bring the Kennedy cousin to trial?  I think that they are rich/White/connected and he is still in prison.

You and Mark go on and believe that everyone hates the Black man.  And send your taxes to the Black President

Douchebags!

azcumsquelcher
azcumsquelcher

@croft53 bullshit. We don't live in an aristocracy or the antebellum South. This girl would have received the same treatment if she were white as new fallen snow or if she did this same thing in North Scottsdale. In fact, she may have received worse treatment in NoSco because the Scottsdale Police try to preserve the integrity of the area and keep shitty people like Ladajianna out

azcumsquelcher
azcumsquelcher

@don.dodondo also one of the first things she did was arrange a cover story with her boy-toy so they could tell the police what really happened

bob_lablaw96
bob_lablaw96

@rozumbrada Not all DUIs kill others.  If they did, they should be treated the same as this gal.

Your argument is so full of holes that it merits little response.

don.dodondo
don.dodondo

@rozumbrada How can you possibly know that?  She broke into a home and stole guns, that is not the behavior of a "typical kid", that is the behavior of a criminal.

eric.nelson745
eric.nelson745 topcommenter

@marcy @car_del99 'Zactly. The gun didn't just go off. The girl pulled the trigger. Moreover, the vic told he not to point the gun at him cuz it was loaded! Well, anyway, "YES" wins so to adult court she goes.

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