Scottsdale Cops Shoot, Kill Man Wanted for Questioning in Sex Crimes

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UPDATE: Thomas Hawes Identified as Man Fatally Shot by Scottsdale Cops; Five Detectives on Leave


Scottsdale police officers shot and killed a man this morning who was wanted for questioning in sex crimes.

Police haven't released the 45-year-old man's name, but Scottsdale Officer David Pubins says in an e-mail that the man first pointed the gun at himself, then pointed it at officers, before firing one round at police.

See also:
-Scottsdale Police Department Has Quite a Shooting Problem, ACLU Alleges
-David Hulstedt Shot in Back, Then Dragged 400 Feet on Knees by Scottsdale Police
-James Peters, Scottsdale Cop With Six Kills, Approved for Retirement

At that point, multiple officers shot back and hit the man, who died at the scene.

From what it sounds like -- we're trying to clarify this with police -- detectives were driving behind the man in the area of 83rd Street and Granite Reef Drive, when the man pulled over his car to the side of the road, and pointed the gun at himself.

Police say the detectives started negotiating with him, but the man eventually got out of his car, pointed the gun at the detectives, and fired a shot -- before he was gunned down by officers.

The details are still coming in, but the ACLU of Arizona filed a lawsuit against the Scottsdale Police Department in September, after former Officer James Peters notched his sixth kill, as the ACLU alleged Scottsdale PD heads pretty much have a policy of "rubber-stamping" officer-involved shootings as justified.

A little more than a year ago, police responded to John Loxas' home, and he answered the door with his grandson in his arms. He was not armed, but Officer Peters shot him in the forehead, killing him instantly. No other officer fired a shot.

ACLU representatives compared that to the 2008 shooting of David Hulstedt, who was shot, handcuffed, and dragged about 400 feet by Scottsdale cops, in an incident that was captured on videos.

As for this morning's shooting, we'll provide updates when they become available.


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AZHighways
AZHighways

The "sex crimes" accusation published with the SPD's execution smells a bit fishy to me.

Steve
Steve

I would like to know how many shots were fired by the police. I live a block away and heard the gunfire, I would guess close to 50 shots in about 4-5 seconds. 

Tyburn Gallows
Tyburn Gallows

Fuck the cops. They're trigger-happy lying bastards. Let's just say that the SPD gives us a lot of reason to be skeptical of their report on what happened.

Mo Sberg
Mo Sberg

Wow Joe, yer' logic is infallible....

Joe Rollins
Joe Rollins

Ok tyburn so new law: if someone points a gun at you, you're not allowed to fire at them until a judge finds them guilty first. I'm sure the NRA will totally side with that plan.

Tyburn Gallows
Tyburn Gallows

I like your thinking Joe! Hell, we can save a lot of money by just letting the cops execute everyone and anyone who is wanted for questioning. No more costly courts or jails! Hell, SPD basically already has this policy in effect! Just need to expand it!

AzNtv
AzNtv

Don't do stupid stuff and the police won't hurt you.

Joe Rollins
Joe Rollins

Good to see people like Arizona Luke standing up for pedophiles who point guns at officers. Keep fighting the good fight. Lots more pedophiles out there for you to defend.

Tyburn Gallows
Tyburn Gallows

Fuck the cops, but also fuck the way right wingers arbitrarily CAPITALIZE so many PARTS of their WRITING! Anyhow, the far left is mostly against gun control. It's the squishy liberals and moderates who want it.

Arizona Luke
Arizona Luke

wait wait wait! can we infer the New Times, the SAME far-left rag that spits Leftist propaganda 24/7 OPPOSES the far left's idea that ONLY cops and military should be permitted to have guns but not law abiding citizens???

david_saint01
david_saint01 topcommenter

sounds like suicide by cop actually...

Cozz
Cozz

Man, Scottsdale PD sure likes killing people.

jrock0067
jrock0067

@Steve it was actually 78 rounds fired. one which hit my house at the time. if ya dont believe me go look at 5123 east 83rd st in the front above in between the two front windows i saw the whole thing  it was a straight massacre not justified at all.

AZHighways
AZHighways

@AzNtv Please define "stupid stuff"?  Would answering the door if they knock on it be defined as stupid?

AZHighways
AZHighways

@Joe Ploskonka Goodness - could a new Gang be forming in our town?  The Joe's?

AZHighways
AZHighways

@Cozz North Scottsdale Residents still do not understand why a Swat Team was needed for a Mother Daughter argument around 75th Street & Shea at a Condo Complex.  Okay, the Daughter had a gun that she shot herself with - sad but a SWAT Team?  How strange is that?

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