President Obama Talked Immigration Reform While Jan Brewer Got Stale at the Border

mikefrombisbee topcommenter

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A typical meaningless dog and pony show staged to impress the ignorant. Our dipsomaniac governor needs to dry out and come down to the border without her handlers, to stay and look and listen. If she did she would find some very interesting things:

Most residents who live near the border have little or no contact with border crossers, who have no desire to attract attention to themselves.. I travel extensively in southeast AZ and southwestern NM (the bootheel) and have observed very few border crossers - but lots of Border Patrol agents.

Border communities such as Bisbee, Douglas,and Naco have low incidences of violent crime and their property crime levels are no higher than those of other communities. We never lock our doors unless we go on extended trips. We have never been victims of a crime. The Bisbee Observer is locally known for having a police report that consists mainly of reports of livestock blocking roadways or of skunks or rattlesnakes in yards.

I was in Naco, AZ, which is right on the line, yesterday on business. The Turquoise Valley RV park is packed with snowbirds, as is the RV park at the Douglas golf course. Those winter visitors come to the U.S.-Mexican border each year to enjoy warmer weather and to play golf. They quite obviously have no fear for their lives and property. Retirees move to Naco and Bisbee because they are peaceful, quiet communities.

The hysteria over the "brown invasion" from the south is a manufactured contrivance that serves to distract ignorant people from real issues involving corporate greed and mismanagement and to blind them to a very cozy relationship between the executive and legislative branches of state government and corporate interests in AZ.

JohnQ.Public topcommenter

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@mikefrombisbee Thanks for the first hand, in-person reporting.

mikefrombisbee topcommenter

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@JohnQ.Public @mikefrombisbee I have been dealing with border issues for many years as a journalist, teacher and community member. What is reported about life on the border is mostly bullshit. I was present when Fife Symington made his dog and pony show pilgrimage to the Douglas-Agua Prieta drug tunnel. He didn't have a clue and quite frankly, neither do most other elected officials. Few elected or appointed officials really take a long, hard, objective look at the border and what conditions are really like. If things were really as bad as Fox News and the tea baggers portray you would hear it from ordinary citizens who live here. But you don't. Now what does that say?

sarum

@JohnQ.Public @sarum Thanks. It is important to have this dialogue with everybody, with every POV and to realize that when someone needs to stifle dialogue with insults they are raising huge red flag about themselves and their allegiances, their agenda. I am not IN Douglas, I am in Glendale but we still have family there at all stages of life and I am sure mikefrombisbee would know them, many of them and he has tried to get me to "out" them here before. No, mikefrombisbee. We keep our ammunition close. Anonymity permits some freedom to discuss in some cases.

JohnQ.Public topcommenter

@sarum Thanks for providing additional perspective. Mikefrombisbee, just cause his perspective is different from yours doesn't necessarily mean his is invalid. He feels uncomfortable providing facts because he feels that endangers his family - I respect that. Assumining he truly lives down there like he says he does, it just a difference in perspective.

mikefrombisbee topcommenter

@sarum @mikefrombisbee @JohnQ.Public "Silence or refusal to give specifics" means that you have nothing valid to say. So why say anything? But if you don't find looking the fool, by all means, continue.

sarum

@mikefrombisbee @sarum @JohnQ.Public No . . . when I read your comment to my family you should have been able to hear the noise eruption specifically about crime committed by border crossers. Silence or refusal to give specifics means self protection and that of family. It does not mean that nothing happens. We agree about corporate greed, mismanagement and cozy relationships but the nationality, skin color or legality of the intended targets are irrelevant - we are dealing with equal opportunity predators.

mikefrombisbee topcommenter

@sarum @JohnQ.Public @mikefrombisbee And once again you've managed to say absolutely nothing. Congratulations. Quite melodramatic and quite vacuous.

sarum

@JohnQ.Public @mikefrombisbee Cuz when you live in a small town everybody knows everybody - and no, if I mention specific crimes done to my family in Douglas and Bisbee by border crossers that outs my/their identity and this becomes very dangerous. Then there are people like yourself, mikefrombisbee, who get very adversarial on sites like this one - like you think you are omnipotent and knows everything that happens. Most choose to suffer in silence rather than be targeted twice.

JohnQ.Public topcommenter

@mikefrombisbee Quite frankly, most of us would rather stay 250 miles away from the border but make up "facts" that support our pre-existing political belief. So your personal reporting is either completely wrong or completely right depending on what I already believe to be true.

TaxpayingVoter

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She actually claimed to see groups "staging" and getting ready to illegally cross the border?

My god, every time I think she can't be any dumber she comes along and outdoes herself.

MaskedMagician1967 topcommenter

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@TaxpayingVoter

Reminds me of JoeArpaioFan.

"My God, every time I think she can't be any dumber she comes along and outdoes herself. "

Lone_Wolf

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I was disappointed with this lame brain-farting Gov. of ours, did not mention the "headless bodies in the desert" to the embedded media. She's a real piece of work, ain't she?

MaskedMagician1967 topcommenter

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I have a much better idea: why not have Jan ask New Mexico Governor Susana Martinez, a Latina and a Republican, about border security, given New Mexico is also a border state and home to legendary Old West outlaw Billy the Kid?

HaddieNuff

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Don't forget this is the same woman that asked the president for 250 additional troops for the border. When she got 524, she said it was 'disappointing, to say the least.'

http://azcapitoltimes.com/news/2010/04/22/brewer-pledges-border-assistance-demands-federal-help/

http://www.azcentral.com/news/election/azelections/articles/2010/06/28/20100628arizona-guard-troops-from-obama.html

danzigsdaddy topcommenter

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@HaddieNuff beautiful! only the pickled pig could complain that she not only got what she wanted, but they doubled it up for her. I am not even an Obama supporter and I have to agree, he went above and beyond what she wanted. if she cant make do with 2 times what she initially asked for......he isnt the problem, she is. the sea hag isnt trying for a secure border, she's just looking to complain, NO MATTER WHAT. if she really wanted a secure and safe state, she'd move her rapist son into real prison instead of camp snoopy the med center and make Arpaio deal with ALL crime, not just immigration

JohnQ.Public topcommenter

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Chuck Coughlin hasn't told her what a "secure border" is yet so she doesn't know. Even if Chuck had told her it's doubtful that she would remember it. Corrections Corp of America defines a secure border as any border that funnels at least 750 crossers into its facilities in any given day, but Jan got confused about the 750 number and assumed that they were talking about the 750 ml in her favorite bottle of scotch.