Prescott-Area Cops at Bar Fight Claimed They Didn't Know Name of Fellow Cop, in Their Own Motorcycle Club, Who Threw Punch

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A pair of high-ranking cops who were at a Prescott bar where a Glendale man was injured in a fight said they couldn't remember the name of the fellow cop who punched the man, although they went to that bar with this cop as part of their motorcycle club.

According to the Prescott Police Department reports first obtained by the Daily Courier, Prescott Valley Police Chief Bill Fessler and Yavapai County Sheriff's Office Sergeant Bill Suttle just couldn't come up with the true identity of "Top Gun" -- the nickname of their fellow Iron Brotherhood Motorcycle Club member, who apparently punched a 23-year-old Glendale man, who was hospitalized that night.

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The reports tell of about 20 guys in the Iron Brotherhood vests and jackets, out at Whiskey Row bars with their wives or girlfriends.

Witnesses who saw them that night described them as "rowdy," "acting like some sort of outlaw motorcycle gang," acting like "1 percenter's [sic]" -- criminals -- and "Hell's Angels" as they acted like bullies, who were "flashind around their badges," the police reports describe.

One bartender said he cut off "about ninety percent of them" before they left his establishment. They'd land at another bar after that.

By the time police started investigating the incident, officers spotted the Iron Brotherhood vests in Hooligan's Pub, although the fight occurred at Moctezuma's Bar.

Suttle, the YCSO sergeant, said he was there, and admitted that "one of their guys" got in a "little tussle" with the victim, after the victim grabbed Chief Fessler.

"Suttle stated that he broke it up and then immediately sent their guy home," the report states.

Suttle said "their guy" was named "Top Gun." His real name escaped Suttle's memory -- he could only remember that he was from Ajo.

Later, Suttle would inform the Prescott cops that "Andy," "your assistant chief" -- apparently Prescott Police Deputy Chief Andy Reinhardt -- was also there.

"I want him left out of this," Suttle said, according to the report. Suttle still insisted he couldn't remember who "Top Gun" was.

The cops also found Fessler, and asked him what happened at Moctezuma's.

"What happened at Moctezuma's," Fessler replied. He talked about the incident after the investigating officer informed him of the man who got punched.

Miraculously, Fessler couldn't come up with the name of his fellow club member, "Top Gun," either.

"As of this time I have not received a message from Suttle or anyone with the Iron Brotherhood in reference to the legal name of 'Top Gun' or anyone else involved in this assault," the Prescott officer writes at the end of his report.

The case was transferred to the Department of Public Safety, so the Prescott report certainly isn't the ultimate report on the matter, but it's the only one available at this time, according to the Courier.

The Courier also obtained surveillance footage of the fight in the bar, although it's very difficult to make out what's going on. If we had to guess, "Top Gun" might the one of the two guys wailing their arms between 0:30 and 0:46.


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alan_b.stard.m.p
alan_b.stard.m.p

that's good.  The existence of cop biker groups may make outlaw MCs think twice about going into a town that has a cop MC as well as cops.  Fine by me

ragarone6
ragarone6

So, according to a story in the Republic today, AZPOST has stripped DPS officer Bryce Bigelow of his police officer certification (after DPS terminated his employment 8 months ago).


So the Arizona Department of Public Safety seems to have a zero tolerance policy when an officer is less than truthful. That is exactly how it should be. But what about when a high ranking officer in DPS appears to be far less truthful (in my opinion) than former Ofc. Bigelow? How does the department react? With a broom & a rug. Professional Standards Investigation 2013-265 is an interesting read.

EDSHORTMAN
EDSHORTMAN

The AZ chapter started another bar fight last year at there rally in Reno.  Some of the same guys involved.  Think it's a pattern?

Tommy_Collins
Tommy_Collins

It seems odd that two peace officers who apparently were involved in an altercation in a public place both don't know the name of the guy involved, other than his nickname of "Top Gun", of course. I would think they both have the resources available to find out his 'legal' name, and likely have done so. If and when the DPS investigative report is released it will be interesting to see if their memories came back. It seems even odder that one of those with the bad memory is a chief of police. Shades of a local county sheriff, as others have suggested in comments on this article.

KMA367
KMA367

Why hasn't the city started firing the command staff?

eeecuzin
eeecuzin

So now there are biker gangs of cops ? Why dosent this amaze me

marcy
marcy

Cops routinely testify under oath with confidence about things that happened many month ago.

That makes it remarkable that they can't remember their own mistakes/crimes.  Just ask Senile Joe.  Or don't ask because he can't recall anything either.

Cops lie.  

danzigsdaddy
danzigsdaddy topcommenter

people who are trained to observe, and they couldnt between the whole group tell you what the assaulter looked like? bet ya anything if it was one of theirs that got beat they would know ever little detail though

danzigsdaddy
danzigsdaddy topcommenter

theres never a cop around when you need one....................well, except for the drunk ones assaulting you that is. 

sedonasherpa
sedonasherpa

Hey, PPD must have some 1,500 cops up there - we cannot expect everyone to know everyone...  The Iron BH should merge with "Devil's Ride" douche baggers down there in San Diego!

Everyone's a wannabe until the subpoenas' start flying!   vroom vroooom!

penkdooo
penkdooo

Brothers stick together man, its the rulez!


www.GotAnon.da.bz

eric.nelson745
eric.nelson745 topcommenter

They are an outlaw motorcycle gang, no doubt. And they have a Nazi symbol (the Iron Cross) on the back of their jackets. Shame.

danzigsdaddy
danzigsdaddy topcommenter

none of them can remember  a guy in their club (a guy some of them work with) and they still want us to trust their observations and reports in their jobs?  if you cant get the name of the guy you ride with straight, i am having some serious doubts about anything you say you witnessed when you go to court and testify on a case. 

alan_b.stard.m.p
alan_b.stard.m.p

@eeecuzin that's good.  The existence of cop biker groups may make outlaw MCs think twice about going into a town that has a cop MC as well as cops.  Fine by me

carlray
carlray

@marcy not to defend them but i would think they were to drunk to remember there brains let alone the name of a fellow officer and biker gang member

Warrior-X
Warrior-X

@danzigsdaddy Cops are known to protect one of their own, when one of their own is the "bad apple" in the basket. Unless, if that cop is a non-white or a female officer. They will turn him/her in.

Warrior-X
Warrior-X

@eric.nelson745 And all of its members are also white. Irony?

That means, they are not only an outlaw biker gang. But also racists or white supremacists.

JohnQ.Public
JohnQ.Public

@danzigsdaddy And so will defense attorneys on cross-exam when one of these officers testifies in a trial or hearing.

sarum
sarum

@Lone_Wolf @danzigsdaddy Yup 2.  We have observed that "minority" officers are gifted the task of racial profiling "Mexican" drivers and pulling them/us over on bogus charges.  Longtime residents have tolerated the profiling considering that if there were no "illegal" problem we would not have a profiling problem - just so long as the officer does not abuse their power and/or acts disrespectfully after pulling us over.  Since they routinely cannot do that we have reached our tolerance limit after decades.   

eric.nelson745
eric.nelson745 topcommenter

@Lone_Wolf @danzigsdaddy Yup. There is increasing evidence which says that Christopher Dorner was routinely discriminated against because of his race. He was fired from LAPD on trumped-up charges in 2009. Then, almost totally on account of his firing by LAPD, he was passed over for promotion to Lieutenant Commander in the Naval Reserve. So he snapped. There is no excuse for his killing spree, but just consider what probably would not have happened had he been treated fairly.

sarum
sarum

@eric.nelson745 Yes I have noticed that the "spin" has stopped with this case.  They haven't jumped to use it as fuel for gun control and the "mental ill" hasn't been tried either to the best of my knowledge.

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