Homophobes Freaking Out Over Proposed Ordinance Banning LGBT Discrimination

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According to Arizona's most powerful homophobic organization, Phoenix Mayor Greg Stanton is trying to let men "gain access" to little girls in bathrooms.

Yes, the Center for Arizona Policy -- which claims pornography "has been linked" to rapes, child molestations, and serial killers and claims "homosexual activists" are "attempting to indoctrinate [children] into embracing homosexual behavior" -- is at it again.

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"There is an urgent problem in Phoenix, and Center for Arizona Policy needs your help!" reads a CAP "action alert." "The city of Phoenix is considering passing a law that would allow "transgendered" men to use the women's restroom in public accommodations like restaurants, schools, and churches -- the same restroom that your child uses."

To make our job easy, the city already put together our favorites -- the fact sheet and the FAQ.

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For some reason, we're willing to believe that Stanton's not trying to institute a pedophile free-for-all in Phoenix.

"Currently, the city of Phoenix prohibits discrimination in employment, public accommodation, housing and city contracts based on race, color, religion, sex, national origin, age, genetic information and marital status," a city press release says. "The proposal will simply add sexual orientation, gender identity, gender expression and disability. All existing exemptions for churches, small landlords and others will remain unchanged. For example, an employer will not be able to fire someone for being gay and a hotel will not be able to refuse to accommodate a same-sex couple."

The city also provided a six-page list of cities with similar laws, but we need not guess as to why CAP actually opposes Phoenix's ordinance -- it's all listed on this page, here.

Overview

A key strategy for advocates of homosexual behavior is to seek legal recognition and special protection on the basis of categories like "sexual orientation," "gender identity," and "gender expression." The goal is to characterize any viewpoint that disapproves of homosexuality as discrimination, similar to discrimination on the basis of race or ethnicity. This strategy is ultimately designed to lead to greater societal approval of homosexual behavior and even a redefinition of marriage.

The ordinance is supposedly headed for a vote this week, so we'll keep you updated if anything happens.

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sarum
sarum

Then there is the question of transmissable diseases and intentional transmission of disease.  Hospital workers tell horror stories that defies the narrow parameters of transmissability commonly put out to the public.  Making places wheelchair accessible is right.  Forcing people to make a 3rd bathroom is stupid.  Just make the public aware that there is a subculture that wants to catch the AIDs and another sub-culture that considers it PC to transmit it.  So teach people to be careful and considerate.

sarum
sarum

idk answer but gay people are not all like what you see on TV.  Many absolutely hate the opposite sex.  In some cases this translates into physical acts of aggression just as Eldridge Cleaver in his book "Soul On Ice" advocated political action of black men raping white women.  Then there are the separatists who openly hate on the opposite sex.  The lesbian separatists refuse to accept male cashier at supermarket. . . refuse to sit on bus next to male.  It's really crazy and surely is cause for concern regarding vulnerable people that needs to use the bathroom next to some of these that may consider predatory behavior as politically correct.  idk answer.

azcumsquelcher
azcumsquelcher

What the hell is a transgender? It's either a man who identifies as a woman or vice versa. In either case, you have a man or a woman, not a half-man or half-woman. Getting your dick chopped off and taking estrogen pills to develop breasts does not make you a woman... Not everyone who is against this is a homophobe, rather, some people just want to see an end to the continuous skewing of gender lines and the bandwagon approach to accepting these lifestyle trends. Not only is it permissible to behave this way, it's slowly becoming celebrated. And how careless of Phoenix New Times to shun all the other queer groups. LGBT is so 2008. LGBTQIA is the new acronym, look it up if you don't believe it

Warrior-X
Warrior-X

So let me get this straight. The Arizona Center for Crybabies, is saying that adult film entertainment leads to rapes, child molestations and serial killing? Excuse me but:


Blahahaha........that would have to be approximately 98% of the male population and approximately 49% of the female population in Arizona alone. Don't tell me that more of half of the "girly men" working at the Arizona Center for Crybabies, have a porn stash tucked away at home somewhere. But hey, the *ACTUAL* rapists, child molesters, pedophiles and serial killers all love the Flaccid Failure of the MCSO. They not only voted for him, but some of them are actually working for him.

ReggieVV
ReggieVV

Why not just change the name of the organization to "Arizona Center for the Taliban", because that is what they are.

robert_graham
robert_graham topcommenter

Is this a fucking joke or what?  I don't want some fucking drag queen using the same restrooms I do.

Flyer9753
Flyer9753 topcommenter

So let me make sure I understand this:

CAP is worried about Transgendered men using the womens restrooms

So CAP is worried about someone who has no interest in women sexually, someone who considers themselves to be a woman mentally and is sexually attracted to men, being in a restroom with women, a sex they are not attracted too.

So what does CAP want? To put someone who IS interested in men sexually and considers themselves to be a woman, in the mens restrooms with little boys?

Sounds to me that CAP is the one trying to promote inappropriate situations with little kids

WhoKnows
WhoKnows topcommenter

Would the CAP nuts rather have a man dressed as a woman stand next to their little boys at a urinal?


The CAP folks are really idiots, aren't they?

TheDownfalloftheUSA
TheDownfalloftheUSA

What is the problem with people? They make the choice to be a transgender or cross dressers and don't think about obvious issues like "where am I going to go pee?" 

Here's a thought - make every bathroom a "family" bathroom. Anyone can go in... one at a time or as a family. Problem solved. Although women aren't going to like having to close the seat or wipe pubes off the toilet before peeing... 

cugagcmu80
cugagcmu80

IMO, if CAP opposes non-discrimination policies/laws against LGBTQ Americans, they should also be opposed to collecting any taxes from them, including sales tax.  I think that if you're going to disenfranchise someone, you shouldn't also be able to use their money to pay for services you enjoy while you discriminate against them.  Separate but equal has already been ruled unconstitutional by the Supreme Court in the 1954 Brown v. BOE of Topeka.

eric.nelson745
eric.nelson745 topcommenter

To CAP (especially that douchebag Len Munsil): Go to hell. I mean it. GO. TO. HELL.

JohnQ.Public
JohnQ.Public

CAP - trying to make Arizona into the religious theocracy it's founders always dreamt of.  The scary part is that the organization carries influence with similar thinking members of our legislature and non-thinking members of our executive branch.

david_saint01
david_saint01 topcommenter

lmao wow, ALEC is on the move yet again...they tried this shit in NE, and a well known football coach got involved and got the U of NE in trouble over his stance against protecting gays...thats all this is, making it clear that gays have civil rights just like everyone else...and CAP isnt exactly known for their logical thinking..more like fascist theocracy. 

Flyer9753
Flyer9753 topcommenter

@sarum

"Just make the public aware that there is a subculture that wants to catch the AIDs and another sub-culture that considers it PC to transmit it"

What an idiotic fucking comment.

I guess we need to make the public aware of the real dangerous sub-culture, the one you are championing right now, stupidity.

TheDownfalloftheUSA
TheDownfalloftheUSA

@azcumsquelcher  

I don't think this is so much about  people's gender as it is about what to do with people that have crossed gender lines. While I understand a transexual's point of view (desire for acceptance), we now have a decision to make as a society. Do we cater to every desire, from every group that feels left out, or do we just ignore gender? Frankly, uni-sex restrooms make the most sense. But, as I said, the resistance is going to come from those that don't like the idea of sitting someplace where some slob just left pee spots, pubes and a giant racing stripe (usually, that's the man's fault... at least men that don't give a shiite about other people).

I don't know much about CAP, and knowing the NewTimes, if CAP is conservative, they will be described as a bunch of ultra-right wing hate mongers. You can't seriously expect an article here to be unbiased...

robert_graham
robert_graham topcommenter

@Lone_Wolf And what was that you were saying that illegal immigration does not lead to crime and jobs lost for Americans?

teknik
teknik topcommenter

@Lone_Wolf all I know is that when my wife and I are feeling extra frisky and in the desire to do it all night like those days when we first met we pop in some porn and have at it.

robert_graham
robert_graham topcommenter

@ReggieVV Yes and change the other "Respect Arizona" to Disrespect Arizona too.

joel.robertsz
joel.robertsz

@JoeArpaioFan Nice language from what appears to be a nice looking lady.  You lost me with your 1st "fucking".  If you want to be heard, get some class and vocabulary.  In the mean time, since rest rooms are pretty private; I can only assume that you would be worried that the "drag queen" might "talk" and reveal that; yes, your sh** does stink!!!      

Flyer9753
Flyer9753 topcommenter

@JoeArpaioFan  

I don't understand why you are bummed about this Robert. 

At least now you know where to go when you are looking for a date, or a fill in for Arpaio when he's not around for you to blow.

WhoKnows
WhoKnows topcommenter

@JoeArpaioFan  Public records, my friend!

Domain Name:RESPECTARIZONA.INFO 

Created On:31-Jan-2013 23:37:59 UTC 

Last Updated On:31-Jan-2013 23:59:46 UTC 

Expiration Date:31-Jan-2014 23:37:59 UTC 

Sponsoring Registrar:GoDaddy.com LLC (R171-LRMS)

Registrant ID:CR135734023 

Registrant Name:ROBERT GRAHAM 

Registrant Organization:RESPECT Arizona 

Registrant Street1:2700 W. BASELINE RD. 

Registrant Street2:STE 133 PMB 178 

Registrant City:TEMPE 

Registrant State/Province:Arizona 

WhoKnows
WhoKnows topcommenter

@JoeArpaioFan Another drag queen would cause you to get into a cat fight, right GrahamCraker?


Robby want a cracker?

JohnQ.Public
JohnQ.Public

@TheDownfalloftheUSA When did you choose to be heterosexual?  Were you 13 or 14 when you sat down and said, "I can be straight or I can be gay....I think I'll be straight."  The reality is that you never, ever did that.  You never thought twice about the fact that you were straight, you just were.  At least that was my experience - I never had to decide I was straight, I just was.  That was it.  I didn't have to decide that I was attracted to the opposite gender - I just was.  If that is the case for being straight, why would you think that being transgender is a "chocie"?  Why would you even make that assumption when being straight wasn't a "choice" for you? 

JohnQ.Public
JohnQ.Public

Or is that un-thinking member of our executive branch.  Or unabletothink members of our executive branch.  Not quite sure of the proper word to use there.

sarum
sarum

@Flyer9753 @sarum Wow Flyer, you really don't know much of what goes on do you?  What exactly is it that you think I am "championing" since I said making a 3rd bathroom is stupid?  Do you have a problem with becoming informed about things outside your very narrow life?  Take a walk on the wild side and get an education.

sarum
sarum

@TheDownfalloftheUSA @azcumsquelcher eeehhhhh . . . .I don't care for the bleeders.  I understand some people have a problem but they really need to clean that up instead of leaving it all over.  It's just gross and how dangerous idk.  

CAP is to me like the million mental midgets that thinks a pig promotes bestiality.  What filthy minds they have!  

azcumsquelcher
azcumsquelcher

@joel.robertsz @JoeArpaioFan why is the drag queen so desperate to use the women's restroom? Is it really that important that you get to use the same bathroom of the gender you aspire to be? New rule: you only get to piss in the bathroom that matches your birth sex. Seems fair to me

robert_graham
robert_graham topcommenter

@WhoKnows @JoeArpaioFan This seems like the second time you posted my WhoIs information. But because you feel so inclined to do so, I will be doing some digging to find out your IP address and then I will post your personal information too.

azcumsquelcher
azcumsquelcher

@JohnQ.Public @TheDownfalloftheUSA At some point, you have to make the choice to stop acting like your own gender and start adopting the behaviors of the opposite. You can't argue with biology. If Johnny is born with a penis, but believes he was supposed to be a girl, he's still a boy goddamnit. If I believe that deep down I am a Martian living in a human's body, does that make me a Martian? Hell no. There is a difference here between sexual attraction and gender identity. You may have an argument with the idea that gay men or women are born with a homosexual attraction (can't be proven one way or another), but the idea that a female identity is trapped within the body of a male, or the other way around, is simply preposterous.

Flyer9753
Flyer9753 topcommenter

@JohnQ.Public  

Unthinking - which is clear since they would rather the church do their thinking for them.

sarum
sarum

@Flyer9753 @sarum I did not apply to entire group.  You did.  I did not learn from Wikipedia.  I learned because I grew up in gay community of NYC which has all stripes and so I just kind of know stuff cuz I have eyes and ears.  That's called life knowledge.  

If a person wants to protect self and loved ones they need to be first of all, informed.  I see little kids being sent into bathroom alone and when they sit they do not put barrier between their butt and the seat.  Indeed some of them are so little that they need to use all fours to get on the seat properly.  These littlest ones cannot reach to wash their hands after either.   They need an adult to come with them and we need to be sure that opposite sex parents have the right to accompany their small children to the bathroom also without harassment.  I'm not even getting into perverted acts but it seems to me we had a kid get his tool severed in a mall bathroom  about 15 years ago - yeah one of those put AZ on the map situations.

Due to "Civil Rights" of HIV + we really don't know the truth of transmissibility of that or other things.   We don't have any Civil Rights to not get sick.  It is our job to be informed and take proper care of ourselves and those in our care.  Even sabotaging toilet paper with the intent of making wipers sick is known so perhaps you should save your venom for the twisted set.

At any rate, you seem particularly rabid today.  Sorry for you.


Flyer9753
Flyer9753 topcommenter

@sarum @Flyer9753  

Oh wow, you saw it on wikipedia and therefore are going to apply it to an entire group of people even though you have no proof of it whatsoever... 

oh wow, the sky is falling, it must be, there is a wikipedia page saying so.

ROFL!! 

Your comment was and is still a stupid and idiotic comment.

Flyer9753
Flyer9753 topcommenter

@sarum @Flyer9753  

The only one needing an education, specifically some reading comprehension is you Sarum.

I never said ANYTHING about your 3d bathroom comment. 

I quoted from your comment EXACTLY what I thought was stupid, but clearly either you didn't read that or just couldn't comprehend it.

You stated that people want to get AIDs and that another group wants to spread AIDs to others, that was the part of your comment I was calling stupid and idiotic, because it WAS STUPID AND IDIOTIC.

WhoKnows
WhoKnows topcommenter

@JoeArpaioFan @WhoKnows Look up DHCP, little one!  You are such a P.I.!


Seems you have threatened to post my non-public info for the last two weeks, little Bobby!

robert_graham
robert_graham topcommenter

@WhoKnows @Flyer9753 @JoeArpaioFan Do you think that too about the other Respect Arizona group as well as other liberals groups too who all seem to use PO Boxes???

Flyer9753
Flyer9753 topcommenter

@TheDownfalloftheUSA @Flyer9753 @JohnQ.Public  

I think it was well said.

I did read your post and I do not agree with your first paragraph at all, since you make it sound like being a male or female mentally is a choice, it's not.

Is sex re-assignment surgery a choice? No, it's fixing what genetics got wrong therefore it's not a choice.

btw - no one is applying this to cross-dressers and there is a HUGE difference between a cross-dresser and a transgender - your ignorance of facts makes you an idiot.

How would you like to live, day to day, knowing you can walk, but being forced to be in a wheelchair? How would you like it if every day you had to wear a wig in public even though you have a shaved head and prefer it that way? 

My point being that no one should have to feel trapped in a body that does not reflect who they are, who they feel to be mentally.

I have a chip on MY shoulder??? ROFL!!! I am not the one trying to tell others how they should act and dress in regards to themselves. I love projectionist assholes like you

The only one making assumptions here is you. Assuming you have the right to say to someone else how they should live their lives

Grow up, worry about your life and quit sticking your nose into others lives until it actually affects you.

TheDownfalloftheUSA
TheDownfalloftheUSA

@Flyer9753 @JohnQ.Public

Actually, it wasn't well said at all.  JohnQ - don't get your panties in a bunch. If you actually READ my post, it was referring to TRANSGENDER or CROSS DRESSERS. Last time I checked, a person has to make the decision to add hormone therapy to their lives. THAT is a decision... Same goes for wearing clothes of the opposite sex. THAT is a choice. I wasn't talking about your average gay (or bisexual) person. You apparently have a chip on your shoulder... Let it go. The world isn't out to "get you" or take things from you. I don't like a lot of things in life, but who am I to force other people to cater to my every whim?

BTW - Don't assume people are straight, just because they suggest people take responsibility for their actions and decisions. Assumptions demonstrate ignorance.

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