Dumbest Name for a Phoenix Weather Event: "Haboob" or "Graupel"?

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Hi, local weatherman here with obnoxious words.
Here's something in Phoenix you can enjoy during the summer and winter: obnoxious names for weather events.

It's nearly impossible to live in the Valley for more than five minutes without hearing the word "haboob," and yesterday, meterologists decided to piss on everyone's parade, and tell people that the Valley was covered in "graupel," not snow.

See also:
-Weather Nazis Insist It's Not Snowing in Phoenix -- It's "Graupel"
-Haboobs in Arizona Known for Centuries to Pimas as "Jegos"

"Haboob" -- also known by the scientific name of dust storm -- is a dumb word.

Our colleague Ray Stern even discovered in summer '11 that the Pima word for dust storm is "jegos."

"It's pronounced more like "jeh-gis" than anything rhyming with Legos," he noted at the time.

"Jegos," we can get down with. "Haboob," we can not.

Then there's yesterday's snow/not-snow incident.

The second everyone acted like excited schoolchildren yesterday because they thought it was snowing, everyone in charge of their respective weather departments shouted out that it was "graupel" falling from the sky, not snow. Pardon us for not knowing it was graupel-ing everywhere.

The National Weather Service defined graupel yesterday as "ice pellets," which are "similar to hail and sleet." However, Wikipedia claims "graupel" is different from "sleet" -- which is defined as "ice pellets" -- so we're done giving a shit, because the word "graupel" is dumb.

Now, let us know which word you think is the dumbest: "haboob" or "graupel."

Cast your vote below:



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Sisterrosetta
Sisterrosetta

Groundhog Day chemTrails Don’t Hide Red Nibiru System And Blue Star

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QK-fW1w8ZPc

youtube.com/watch?v=QK-fW1w8ZPc

(I don't always arrive at the truth but these are not con trails If you believe these are contrails then you have been conned)

ekfosstorm
ekfosstorm

I agree that "graupel" is an ugly word, but, for meteorologists, it is an important word. Graupel, or "soft hail", is a type of frozen precipitation which grows within thunderstorms as small ice crystals fall through a layer of suppercooled water droplets. Supercooled water droplets are tiny liquid  particles that exist below the freezing point of water. When a supercooled droplet  collides with  an ice crystal, it instantly freezes on contact onto the surface of the crystal. Eventuall, after millions of collisions, the ice crystal is plastered with tiny frozen water droplets and falls out of the storm as a millimeter sized pellet that resembles the small styrofoam balls that filled 1970 era bean bag chairs. In the summer, the graupel melts on it way to the ground and becomes rain, while in the winter it may remain frozen and reach the ground unaffetced. What is so important about graupel to atmospheric scientist is that their growth within thunderstorms is intmately linked to storm electrification and lightning. Without graupel, there would be no lightning or thunder,

Linda Gibson
Linda Gibson

How much more evidence do we need! Wether people's job is BORING! So BORING, they need to come up with new words, cause, they are bored out of their skulls!

DNichols
DNichols

Both terms seem to be equally stupid labels, but atleast "Graupel" is a term for an actual "Weather Event"

In Arizona these Massive New "White Dust Storms" (Haboob's) in our Brown Desert are actually a silty white sediment called "White Aresol" after accumulating for several months with out rain the first good wind to come along stirs this man made Chemical residue in to a towering White Wall.

This White Aresol is one of the main Chemicals being intentionally sprayed in our atmosphere covertly by our Government as a false ozone layer, it is sprayed either heavy or lightly 24/7.

I am an Arizona Native, and I can assure you that Arizona Dust Storms used to require much greater winds to create, and then they were "Brown" matching our Arizona soil.

Look up "We the People"

Ask our Government Leaders for a little "Honesty"?!

Tori Forte
Tori Forte

As someone who is not an AZ native and grew up in a place with lots of snow, certain places in the valley absolutely got snow and not just sleet yesterday, most notably Scottsdale.

Brett Solesky
Brett Solesky

Well your first mistake was going with wikipedia.

shadeaux14
shadeaux14 topcommenter

I lived in Minnesota for 21 years and never heard the word "Graupel" until this morning on channel 3. Had to go to my trusty on-line dictionary to look it up. Sounds like what we used to call "Sleet."

Mark Sanchez
Mark Sanchez

Cole, I hear stuff like this and shake my head. I'm a Phoenix native who produced TV news there until 1976. Never.. never.. did Roy Allred or Joe Dougherty or Bob Davies or anyone utter a dumb word like "haboob" to describe a dust storm. Anyone who claims this is a common well-worn term is either unconscious or another newcomer.

Theresa Urquidi
Theresa Urquidi

omg, as I was reading this I heard a co-worker use graupel. Lol, rediculous!

Collette Reno
Collette Reno

Haboob is worse than Grapple, but why can't AZ have anything named with an American word? Big *ss Dust Storm and Sleet!

Klaus Lach
Klaus Lach

Graupel ist German and means frozen Raindrops ! Greetings from Germany.

Cole Jacobsen
Cole Jacobsen

It's called sleet... Fucking sleet! Are these mother fuckers retarded?

Natalie Gossen
Natalie Gossen

As long as they don't call it an effing blizzard, I'm fine with a graupel.

Wally
Wally

Are chains or snow tires still required today on the Loop 101?

afdhm
afdhm

@DNichols It's aerosol not "aresol" you nitwit. Google the term "brownian motion" to under the relationship between particle size and mass. 

quidmore
quidmore

@DNichols They're still brown, moron. It's just the way the light is reflecting off them. And I remember having massive haboobs in the 90's. Haboob is just a term for the wall of a dirt storm, not a misty dirt storm with no clear lines. 

"chem trails" are actually caused by the condensation in the air after aircraft. Most aircraft that has "contrails" has no way of holding that much of /anything/ to release into the air. You could fill a whole entire aircraft carrier with a light powdery substance and you would only get a "chem trail" in the sky that's too short for you to see. 

Do your research and stop feeding your paranoia. 

JohnQ.Public
JohnQ.Public

@shadeaux14 Thats beacuse you had real inclement weather in Minnesota to talk about that lasted longer than 20 hours and didn't have to overthink this stuff.

JohnQ.Public
JohnQ.Public

@Mark Sanchez And I bet Roy Allred, Joe Dougherty or Bob Davies ever tweeted either, or posted news items to a blog. 

quidmore
quidmore

@Cole Jacobsen sleet is a mixture of rain and hail. Graupel is the sleet without the rain. TMYK

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