Phoenix Man Dead After Sister's Gun Goes Off While Posing for Gangsta Photo

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Manuel Ortiz, who was killed by a gunshot while posing for pictures.
Phoenix police say a man was killed on New Year's Eve after being accidentally shot by his sister, who was playing with a gun while the two were posing for photos.

Judging by the previous photo to the right of now-deceased 22-year-old Manuel Ortiz, this situation is not incredibly hard to believe.

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In fact, that's just one of several Facebook pictures involving Ortiz and guns willingly held to his own head.

Ortiz's sister, 19-year-old Savannah Ramirez, has not been charged in her brother's death, although Phoenix police Sergeant Steve Martos tells New Times this afternoon that charges are still pending, and the investigation into Ortiz's death hasn't been completed.

Despite reports that state the pictures Ramirez and Ortiz were posing for were intended to be posted to Facebook, Martos said police don't know what the purpose of the pictures was. Still, Facebook seems plausible, given the number of similar photos already on Ortiz's Facebook page.

Although police couldn't confirm to us that Ramirez and Ortiz are involved in gangs, there's also a Facebook photo for that.

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In the above photo, you can see Ortiz -- with a gun to his head, again -- as well as condolonces from his "WBP. Familia," which we're assuming is the popular Phoenix gang "Wetback Power." The associated hand gestures from the fellow on the right appear to support this assumption.

If we're to believe Ortiz's Facebook friends, they are from the 31st Avenue chapter of "Wetback Power."

Alcohol may have played a role in this accidental shooting, so we'll keep you posted on any updates in this case, including possible charges against Ramirez.

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shako_
shako_

Good fucking riddance.

mailghetto
mailghetto

Somebody shoulda mentioned to homeboy...Safety never takes a holiday!

badcaseaa
badcaseaa

Oh and who gives a crap about some local valley banger pay attention to Obama poking us in the backside instead.

catbyte
catbyte like.author.displayName like.author.displayName like.author.displayName 3 Like

Dr. Darwin, paging Dr. Darwin, Charles Darwin, please pick up on line 2..."

eisaak1
eisaak1 like.author.displayName like.author.displayName like.author.displayName 3 Like

1. ALWAYS assume a firearm is loaded unless you yourself verify it is empty.

2. NEVER point a firearm at anything you are not willing to destroy or kill.

3. NEVER place your finger on the trigger until you have your target in sight and are prepared to fire.

ANY of these simple rules would have saved this child's life.... and I say child because he didn't have the intelligence to know better. He had the legal right to be stupid but didn't show the maturity to be considered an adult.

Second comment: as an employer, this is the reason I do social media searches on all my potential hires. And I have excluded a handful of people for pages just like this.

mhenderson82
mhenderson82 like.author.displayName 1 Like

@eisaak1 I completely agree with your entire post. I often hear of people saying that they disagree with employers viewing their Facebook or Twitter accounts, but I'd be doing the same thing if I was in a position to hire someone. You never post anything online that you wouldn't want someone to use against you later. It is plain and simple. A lot of people don't understand that. Common sense, folks.

Did you happen to see his sister's Facebook page? She has it as "Public" for whatever reason. The way that girl spells things in her posts would be enough for me to delete her. How annoying. You're not 10 years old - spell things like an adult and use proper punctuation. 

Okay, I'll get off my soapbox. Thanks for the read bud.

mhenderson82
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I bet his sister will be charged with his death for neglegent homicide. Guns aren't toys and you don't look "cool" when posing in a photo with a gun. And why in the hell would you put a gun to your head? Loaded or NOT, you just don't fucking do that. That phrase comes to mind - "Play stupid games, win stupid prizes." We have a winner folks. 

I hope everyone learns a lesson from this story. Guns aren't toys. You treat every firearm as if it is loaded even when you know it isn't. Make that a habit. When someone hands you a firearm, you visual inspect it yourself to be absolutely certain that it is NOT loaded. 

Sad sad sad. 

crbullseye
crbullseye

Plenty more to go..the prisons and jails are full!!


ThePosterFormerlyKnownasPaul
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Two comments:


1) If you keep your boogerhook off of the bangswitch, it won't go off.

and

2) Why do the guys who are flashing the gang signs look as if the have some sort of neuro-muscular disorder?  You know, sort of a cross between cerebral palsy meets multiple sclerosis meets parkinson's meets Tourettes with a dash of an Asperger's Syndrome.

teknik
teknik like.author.displayName like.author.displayName 2 Like

@ThePosterFormerlyKnownasPaul that's called meth addiction.

badcaseaa
badcaseaa

@teknik @ThePosterFormerlyKnownasPaul and inbreeding and sorry before others call racist its a common situation do some research.

badcaseaa
badcaseaa

@MissTruthHurts "from" don't want you having a heart attack over a misspelled word since  that is pretty much the only response any person with any common sense would have or is it lack of common sense  people like you make me wonder and unlike you im not talking about your race I am talking about your overall convoluted thought process.

badcaseaa
badcaseaa

@MissTruthHurts I got news for you misslalaland I grew up in a ghetto that would make you crap yourself walking out the door I WAS THE MINORITY and i got respect form every nationality in my area Hispanic Black Asian again talk trash and don't research facts Im Sicilian French German Polish Cherokee and then some try and be more racist with your "you WHITE PEOPLE" comment  show us all  that your more ignorant than you have already proven.

MissTruthHurts
MissTruthHurts

@badcaseaaYeah a common situation amongst you WHITE PEOPLE. Not Hispanics/Latinos..lol...Seriously, dude stop it. You all even write that bullshit into movies & sitcoms as jokes. While is "minorities" are looking at the screen like "WTF!?"...."Life imitates Art"

funkmaster1
funkmaster1 like.author.displayName 1 Like

Another fine example of darwinism at work!

republicans-suck
republicans-suck

I see on her facebook page she's proud of her mugshot for agg. assault on an officer, .fine group of folks here, huh ?

http://www.facebook.com/manny.locc.5?viewer_id=661980006#!/photo.php?fbid=119301218212260&set=a.112722858870096.17957.100003971489181&type=1&theater                   

republicans-suck
republicans-suck

Also note that Mom (Sabrina Ramierez) leaves comment to arrest.."fuckin' funny!!!!!"  Mother of the Year Award material for sure. Some serious parenting may have avoided all of this. Now she cries the blues on her facebook page...

 
 
href="http://www.facebook.com/photo.php?fbid=119301218212260&set=a.112722858870096.17957.100003971489181&type=1&theater#!/sabrina.ramirez.7758235">http://www.facebook.com/photo.php?

republicans-suck
republicans-suck like.author.displayName 1 Like

Looking at their freinds face book pages proves the saying:

“Dime con quien andas y te dire quien eres.”

ptcgaz
ptcgaz

some of these people are exactly the people WHO shouldn't be allowed to have guns. but no one is listening HELLO!


teknik
teknik

@ptcgaz nah, they should be able to both walk into a gun show and walk out with a pile of guns


and carry concealed weapons without a permit, because hey they're going to carry them anyway and the less reasons we have for the cops to arrest them the better.   jails are much safer when filled with non-violent drug offenders.

badcaseaa
badcaseaa

@teknik @ptcgaz these people do NOT buy guns legally use your brain people,  guns sold in AZ have all had one round fired and the ballistics for that round entered into the DPS ( i think ) database then when a shooting occurs they can easily compare the casings to those on file and go knock on the original buyers door. These guys are not going to be using guns that can be traced back to them they are gang bangers.

helenbratz
helenbratz

Ortiz's sister, 19-year-old Savannah Ramirez, SHOULD of known better. Being a gun owner has a LOT of responsibility behind it. Being a gun owner, You ALL WAYS Unload & check it twice , before handing it to some one face down. Also She should of ask what he wanted to do with it. I do hold her to blame ! ! !

moonjr058
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Hope to god he pulls out like his shirt says. couldnt imagine him reproducing. it is dumb fucks lie him that prove guns dont kill people, dumb people kill them. what the fuck did he think was gonna happen??

Cactusforehead
Cactusforehead like.author.displayName 1 Like

Maybe he should have considered a different defacto pose? These are the 4th and 5th different Internet pictures I've seen with a gun to his head. For all you racists leaving racist comments about one less beaner, check yourself: at least he wasn't white and committing a mass shooting at a movie theater or elementary school. Hint, it isn't blacks or Hispanics committing those violent acts lately. Look at the bright side, at least he was the only one to die. White people do worse things and kill the innocent thinking they're playing video games or playing Batman. I'd rather be a beaner than whatever you wanna call it (ass burgers).

harlotsghost
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People playing with weapons eventually figure out what they do.

bob_lablaw96
bob_lablaw96 topcommenter like.author.displayName 1 Like

That was wrong to say, and I apologize for saying it.  It might be true, but now is not the time

marcy
marcy like.author.displayName like.author.displayName like.author.displayName like.author.displayName like.author.displayName 5 Like

Good riddance, hope he didn't breed first. 

Only problem is his dimwitted, good for nothing sister will probably churn out the next generation of losers.

Cactusforehead
Cactusforehead

@marcy please read his shirt

marcy
marcy like.author.displayName like.author.displayName 2 Like

@Cactusforehead 

If his wiener control isn't any better than his gun control, I wouldn't put a lot of faith in what his shirt says.  

vigvamvoo
vigvamvoo like.author.displayName 1 Like

I think you mean posing for "Wannabe" gangsta photos right?

www.ats-anon.tk

antigroid
antigroid like.author.displayName 1 Like

BWAHAHAHAHA!!  Darwin strikes again!  He was bein' all bad and sheet but now he jus be smellin' bad.

antiillegalimmigrant
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Stupid wetback got what he deserved! One less criminal for our police forces to have to deal with. Happy New Years Phoenix PD!

Tommy_Collins
Tommy_Collins like.author.displayName like.author.displayName 2 Like

There is a saying, "If you're going to own a Doberman Pincer be sure you're at least as smart as the dog".

Same saying might apply to firearms.

Not that many folks in Arizona would understand without having this explained to them.

Pardon me. I have to go clean my hunting rifle (aka assault weapon). In case I decide to go hunt quail anytime soon.

PaddoCrackr
PaddoCrackr

@Tommy_Collins You hunt quail with a rifle?

badcaseaa
badcaseaa

@PaddoCrackr @Tommy_Collins a shotgun is a type of rifle so yes.


PaddoCrackr
PaddoCrackr

@badcaseaa The word rifle refers to the rifling on the inside of the barrel. Shotguns have a smooth bore barrel, so no, a shotgun is not a rifle.

phucu420
phucu420 like.author.displayName like.author.displayName 2 Like

lol stupid ass peanut head mexican, all you fkn gangsters should do that, phoenix would be a better, safer place.

JoeArpaioFan
JoeArpaioFan topcommenter like.author.displayName like.author.displayName like.author.displayName 3 Like

Good riddance. That's exactly what he deserved. If you play with fire you're going to get burned and burned is what he got.

MaskedMagician1967
MaskedMagician1967 topcommenter

@JoeArpaioFan

I want a triple whopper with cheese hold the pickles, onions, and tomatoes. King size with a frozen Coke.

Chop chop JAF!

david_saint01
david_saint01 topcommenter like.author.displayName like.author.displayName 2 Like

@JoeArpaioFan lmao you should heed your own advice  with all the shit talking you do...i dont know whos worse, them or you..at least they back their shit up (albeit stupidly)

alehound
alehound like.author.displayName like.author.displayName like.author.displayName like.author.displayName 4 Like

 Westsideeeeeee represent. Awesome start to the new year. Keep it up cholos.  

LegitQuestions
LegitQuestions

@alehound Hey alehound, you're still a racist and biggotted pig.

JoeArpaioFan
JoeArpaioFan topcommenter like.author.displayName 1 Like

@LegitQuestions Being a racist is not a crime. Screw off.

LegitQuestions
LegitQuestions like.author.displayName 1 Like

@JoeArpaioFan Nope, not a crime and, in fact, is protected by the First Amendment to the U.S. Constitution.  But, calling out racists and bigots is also protected by the First Amendment.  You and alehound are both fully within you're rights to spout off your racist, prejudiced and bigoted crap and I am within my rights to call you on it, point it out, and criticize you for it, which I will happily continue doing.  So please, continue regaling us with your bigoted BS and we will continue pointing out how much of a pig you are.

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