Legislators Have More Education Proposals: Make the Pledge of Allegiance a Requirement

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Maybe there's something to be said about the posts on this blog today -- legislators hoping to make high school students take a loyalty oath to graduation, Arizona leading the nation in high school dropouts, and now, an effort to make reciting the Pledge of Allegiance a "requirement."

Under current Arizona law, there must be time set aside every day for public school students from elementary school to high school to pledge their allegiance to the flag of the United States of America -- "for those students who wish."

See also:
-Arizona's Number One in the United States! (For Highest Rate of High School Dropouts)
-Legislators Propose Forcing High School Students to Swear to Defend Constitution in Order to Graduate

The proposal from Republican state Representatives Steve Smith and T.J. Shope includes deleting that "those students who wish" part.

House Bill 2284
, although advertised as a "requirement," does come with a way for students to opt out.

"For grades one through twelve, set aside a specific time each day for pupils to recite the pledge of allegiance to the United States flag," the proposed text says. "At the request of a parent, a pupil shall be excused from the requirement of this paragraph."

There's no punishment outlined for students who choose not to recite the pledge without permission from their parents.

Believe it or not, Smith and Shope are among the five Republican representatives who are sponsoring the bill that would prevent high school students in Arizona from graduating from high school unless they take an oath to defend the U.S. Constitution.

We've e-mailed these two legislators to see if we can get an explanation on the pledge bill, so we'll provide the update if we hear back.

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robert_graham
robert_graham topcommenter

Yes make the Pledge a requirement and encourage burning the Mexican flag.

Cozz
Cozz

I'm surprised they not making them pledge of allegiance to Republitards.

cassityg32
cassityg32

What happened to land of the free & freedom of religion etc...how can people think its ok to pick & choose what parts of the constitution will be defended (second amendment) & which parts we'll just ignore?

WhoKnows
WhoKnows topcommenter

"Keep the AZ Gubermint out of the REAL US Government!"

patriotismforall
patriotismforall

They say that, "Patriotism is the last refuge of the scoundrel". In that case, the Pledge must be the last refuge of no less than a  crook when a politician puts it on political display.

mikefrombisbee
mikefrombisbee

I guess they don't know about that there Supreme Court decision - the one from 1944 that says you can't compel children to recite the silly flag worshiping ditty written by Francis Bellamy (a socialist, no less). They don't need anyone's permission to JUST...SAY...NO. Gawwwwwdam we sure due have ourselves a dumbass legislature in AZ.

ReggieVV
ReggieVV

Corrected version. I am here to make sure you stay loyal to the country that will hound your every step! Colonel Flagg. Get the gubment off our backs and into women's wombs where they belong.

danzigsdaddy
danzigsdaddy topcommenter

so they arent allowed to do the pledge of allegiance to the flag anymore, or pray in school, BUT, in order to graduate, they must pledge an oath of loyalty and swear to god while doing it?????  anybody else see a whole lot of contradicting going on?

WhoKnows
WhoKnows topcommenter

I think ALL AZ legislators should be REQUIRED to take the US citizenship test prior to being sworn into office.  If they fail, their opponent in the general gets their seat.


Smith and Seel would surely FAIL.

interloper
interloper

West Virginia State Board of Education v. Barnette, 319 U.S. 624 (1943)

But then I guess Supreme Court rulings and case law don't count in Arizona since Arizona law supercedes federal law.

MaskedMagician1967
MaskedMagician1967 topcommenter

Lmao here's my proposal for education: restore the fucking money so that students can actually GET a halfway decent education.

MaskedMagician1967
MaskedMagician1967 topcommenter

@JoeArpaioFan

Flag desecration is considered to be a federal crime.

In your case, a federal hate crime.

WhoKnows
WhoKnows topcommenter

@mikefrombisbee I wonder why they assume that all kids are US citizens?  The kids of people here on H1B visas or with green cards are can be here LEGALLY, but not US Citizens!

JohnQ.Public
JohnQ.Public

@danzigsdaddy THey are allowed to do the pledge if they choose and a student can opt out without having to get written permission from parents.  As I understand this proposal, students would need written permission from their parents in order to opt out.

shadeaux14
shadeaux14

@WhoKnows That idea would completely decimate the republican party in Arizona.

MaskedMagician1967
MaskedMagician1967 topcommenter

@interloper

Lmao that's what the idiots at the state Capitol want you to think.

Article VI Section II of the U.S. Constitution clearly states that federal law trumps state law.

Bnbk
Bnbk

@MaskedMagician1967 Boy aint that the truth . As I recall,when I was in grade school many,many years ago. Every morning we would all stand at attention as the color guard(boy scouts) displayed our flags while our national anthem was played. We would all(immigrant students included) then proceed to our classrooms to recite the pledge of allegiance before starting our school day...... For goodness sakes,the current law works just fine,why screw with it.......If it aint broke,don't fix it or your sure to cause a problem that will actually need fixing....I agree with you Jason,the focus should be on allocating the neccessary funds,to ensure a proper education for all of our student..........This is SOP for the useless,accomplish nothing wing-nuts, we currently have as "leaders" in this state. They must be proud that AZ has the highest drop-out rate in the nation.

JohnQ.Public
JohnQ.Public

@MaskedMagician1967 Wish I could "Like" twice, maybe even three times.

MaskedMagician1967
MaskedMagician1967 topcommenter

@Bnbk

You're right. I can bet that if Arizona actually provided money for education and hired quality teachers, Arizona would actually have minimal unemployment.

I can also bet that if bullshit legislation like BS1070 was never spawned, Arizona would have s quality workforce. As it stands now Arizona's unemployment rate is higher than the national average.

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