Arizona Republicans Found Out Barack Obama Won Re-Election, and Things Got Very Awkward

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Photo by Matthew Hendley
Maricopa County Bill Montgomery, stuck with the worst speaking spot of the year.


At the Arizona Republican Party's election-viewing party at the Hyatt Regency in Phoenix last night, the moment came that precisely none of the scheduled speakers was prepared for -- on a large screen to the right of the stage, Fox News declared that President Obama had won re-election.

Maricopa County Attorney Bill Mongtomery was stuck on stage speaking while this came up, and with the 15 minutes before that moment, combined with the 15 minutes after, we found out there is a scenario more awkward than being in a room full of nothing but Republicans -- being in a room full of nothing but really baffled and grouchy Republicans.

This chain of events started with Governor Jan Brewer -- whose mood we'll describe as "bubbly" -- as she took the stage next to the cardboard cutout of Mitt Romney, which remained on the stage throughout this whole process.

Brewer got the heavy cheers for saying she wanted to get "Buh-rack Obama out of the White House."

Based on the statement we're printing next, it appeared that she eventually ran out of reasons to be on the stage.

"I love all of the smiles on all of your faces," Brewer said, followed by a pause. "Love it."

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Loves it!

Secretary of State Ken Bennett hopped on the stage next, and by that time, the Fox News screen to his left showed that President Obama had 262 electoral votes in the bag, eight short of securing four more years.

Bennett said his piece for Romney, and as he noticed the attention was starting to go to his left, Secretary of State Bennett (instead of politician Bennett) reminded the crowd that "they count every vote."

Montgomery followed Bennett, and as Montgomery was thanking everyone for their votes against the "top-two primary" proposition, Fox News showed a graphic that covered the entire screen, declaring that President Obama had won.

Despite the fact that everyone else in the room was groaning amongst themselves, Montgomery did the only thing he could do, which was to finish his remarks. He did so, but looked visibly flustered, as it was painfully obvious that he was the only one with a microphone in a room full of people, and just about nobody listened to a word he had to say.

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zamo_studios
zamo_studios

Three weeks later and those photos still make me laugh. Sweet, sweet memories.

spaghettidude1
spaghettidude1

Wait why did people go apeshit when Arpaio showed up? I'm going to assume the people in the room are supporters of Arpaio, so did they go apeshit in a good way, or a bad way?

richie35
richie35

havent seen this many disgusted old white people since they cancelled Matlock

richard.grayson
richard.grayson

Sometime in the next decade, God is going to deport Joe Arpaio.

tromulus
tromulus

it couldn't have happened at a better time.  The little county dictator can get a dose of what he's eventually going to get when people get sick of him making up his own law.  Voted out!

Kcarnold
Kcarnold

I can't stop laughing. Republicans thought they could act this extreme, piss off everyone in the nation except old white guys and win the election? Yeah right! The look on the face of Republicans when their tiny white world crashed in on them? Priceless!!

lizbethagee33
lizbethagee33

Question for all the anti-immigrant folks: would 1 billion Americans be weaker than 300 million? What built this country? Is it not human beings working? When people come into this country and work they contribute to the development of all. This country was built by immigrants. Did those previous immigrants do more harm than good? Why is it assumed that these new immigrants will? Yes, most are not high skilled. But research shows that they do work hard and contribute far more than they take, despite the many claims otherwise. And their children certainly do become completely assimilated Americans.

Asia is rising because they are allowing more free enterprise. As they do, and their citizens become productive, they will surpass the US economically. Simply because of their greater numbers. Socialism is what has been holding them back. As they become more capitalist, their citizens will become more productive and prosperous, approaching the productivity and prosperity of Americans. But there will be 1 billion of them in both India and China. One billion productive people there will be stronger than 300 million productive people here.

Think of it another way. what is it that makes a nation prosper and develop? It’s people working and doing business with one another, right? People do business and make money and pay for products and services that create or sustain jobs. They also pay taxes, which allows government to build infrastructure. There are billions of people in the world. Some of them want to come here and do that work. If they were here they would work for an American business, which is good for America. They would pay rent or buy a house from Americans. They would buy food from Americans. Their children would grow up with a loyalty to America. Are we better off if they stay home and do all of these things there?

Because that’s all that our immigration system has done over the past few decades. It has told millions of people to stay home and contribute to other nations.

So once again, is 1 billion Americans weaker than 300 million Americans? I’m not suggesting we let 700 million people in. I’m only showing that we are stronger by greater numbers.

budsan
budsan

Brewer was bubbly?  "Do you mean drunk"? Anyways the GOP must realize that they must clean house and get rid of their hateful, and racist, politicians, Brewer, McCain and Arpaio. Or they'll never win again!

JoeArpaioFan
JoeArpaioFan

The important thing here is I get to suck Arpaio's dick for the next 4 years

Erze
Erze

 @mikefrombisbee It is so cute that you think that, from two sentences, I am everything you just described.  Talk about ignorant. 

 

jbrooks91
jbrooks91

Does anyone know the final vote tally on this race? The county recorder announced that 452k provisional and early votes have not yet been counted. Many were Newly registered Latinos, how convenient.

Tommy_Collins
Tommy_Collins

Note to JAF: I typically don't use profanity in my posts. You may be the exception.

 

Finally. You can go home and honestly say that you are 'exceptional' to your Mom. She will understand. You may recall over the years when she has always said you are "very special"? Yes. I thought so.

 

Moving on... I've been very busy changing batteries in the golf carts lately. It seems an inordinate number of Q-Tip Republicans have returned to Sand Land. So many of them have a decal from a local county sheriff agency on the rear window of their cars. What's that about, I wonder?

 

Some of those who were bragging about the local election outcome this morning actually had several teeth. Interesting.

 

One gent said he was due for promotion in some posse. I asked him what he had to do to qualify. He flashed a $100 bill. I asked him if he had been to Hawaii recently on an "investigation". He said, "No, I don't have that kind of money".

 

The MCSO sheriff is mentally ill.

WhoKnows
WhoKnows

Brewer was ch 12 for about 5 minutes on the way to this event.  They must have one hell of a bar in her car..  That's all I'll say!

ibcingutoo
ibcingutoo

 

 

 

DAMN.  I wish I could have beent here to hear all that..  Would have laughed my azzzz offl.

 

 

MaskedMagician1967
MaskedMagician1967

That had to be the funniest thing I have ever read: Obama scoring 4 more years as his near arch-rival, MontyPug (remember "put up or shut up?") was on stage delivering his 'remarks'.

 

What the hell is Horne gonna waste taxpayer money on? A frivolous lawsuit? Hope he joins Candy Andy and the Miscreants on the list of disbarred/suspended 'lawyers'.

 

Makes me glad I voted for the following:

 

>>Obama, President

>>Carmona, U.S. Senator

>>Penzone, Shurf

 

I fucking hate the Republicants in this state. Too many mentally sick, corrupt pieces of shit in elected office.

 

 

Eleanor_Holguin
Eleanor_Holguin

Imagine that, Horne and Montgomery being ignored....that's how the voters feel when it comes to you all.

 

As for Arizonans electing the right people....that might be true if you are a corrupt bunch like all listed above.

 

It's so disappointing to see the final results of this election in Arizona.

robert_graham
robert_graham

Republicans should have the right to be upset over Obama's re-election because you Democrats are upset over Arpaio's re-election. So what's the stink?

Flyer9753
Flyer9753 topcommenter

Yeah I am sure GED 'Gin' Jans mood was bubbly.... lol

 

After all, there was an open bar there that they stocked knowing Jan would be there.

danzigsdaddy
danzigsdaddy topcommenter

i didnt support Obama, but the difference is, it isnt all Obamas fault. congress is fucking stuff up more than he is, but with MCSO....it isnt all them, its Arpaio fucking everything up. 

Flyer9753
Flyer9753 topcommenter

 @JoeArpaioFan You change his depends and lick his ass for him as well right?

 

Always knew you liked the cock, but I have to ask, how do you even find it under all that blubber?

mikefrombisbee
mikefrombisbee

 @Erze Snarky, sanctimonious AND ignorant would best describe your comments. Try reading these posts in context and you might have a better understanding of what my comments were referring to.

ibcingutoo
ibcingutoo

I'm totally with ya on all of that.

 

david_saint01
david_saint01

 @JoeArpaioFan the only thing that stinks is you..and you wreak of bullshit so bad they can smell you in China...

danzigsdaddy
danzigsdaddy topcommenter

 @Flyer9753 you are making an assumption that Jan got loaded at the free bar. you didnt think that one through did ya? her limo has a bar too. so she was lit before she walked in the door

robert_graham
robert_graham

 @danzigsdaddy Arpaio hasn't been fucking things up, the criminals have. Do you mean to say that Arpaio shouldn't be enforcing the laws?

armadilloranchbonham
armadilloranchbonham

 @danzigsdaddy Obama had 2  years when he had a Democrat Congress and what did he do? He wasted it on his precious Obamacare that is causing all of my doctors to retire! He's a disgrace to this country. And based on all the reports from virtually every state, he STOLE the election! I guess if you don't have a hope of winning re-election, you just put in place a plan to steal it instead. Way to go, Democrats. Hope you're proud that you'll end up ruining this country.

scottsdalebubbe
scottsdalebubbe

@truthseekeraz@Kcarnold""After a Humiliating Election Night, Will Fox News Stop Lying?  [Will] Roger Ailes ...  finally realize that lying is bad for business -- and the GOP[?]"   

January 24, 2013:  Nope.

MaskedMagician1967
MaskedMagician1967

 @Flyer9753  I have to wonder if JAF sucks off Dave Henderbulk and the Bald Bunion of Pinal County as well...

 

Given that Hendy weighs close to, if not over, 400 pounds, I have to wonder how JAF manages to find it under all that blubber...

 

And regarding the Bald Bunion, I wonder if JAF enjoys sucking him off as much as needed....

Flyer9753
Flyer9753 topcommenter

 @danzigsdaddy 

 

Very true but I am sure she took advantage of that open bar too :)

danzigsdaddy
danzigsdaddy topcommenter

 @JoeArpaioFan picture it this way: you come home from work or school or whatever, you see a man raping your mother, another killing your father, and yet another wandering around in your yard and speaking no english. you call the police and they send 1 officer to your house. who do you want the officer to stop first? do you want him to ignore the man raping your mother, and ignore the man killing your father, just to go check the ID of the man wandering around your yard who cant speak english? 

danzigsdaddy
danzigsdaddy topcommenter

 @JoeArpaioFan this is why we all know you cant read and are just an ignorant little shit stirring piece of shit. your post to me reads "Arpaio hasn't been fucking things up. the criminals have. Do you mean to say that Arpaio shouldn't be enforcing the laws?"   show me one post where i have ever said joe should NOT enforce the law? show me one post where anybody is saying joe should NOT enforce the law? the problem you cant seem to wrap that feeble little mind of yours around, is that Joe has focus on laws that he wants to enforce, not all laws. if joe were to stop his immigration sweeps and focus on rapes and murder instead, you would be howling that he is not doing his job. Joe's job IS to be going after rapists and murderers, not immigration laws. you should be crying that IMMIGRATION is not doing their job as well as Joe is not doing his job. Joe was elected to enforce OUR laws not JOES laws. rape, murder, child molestation are against the law and should merit Joes attention. and how is Joe fucking things up? how can you claim to save me money, if i have to pay $5 to $10 dollars to earn a dollar? the lawsuits and settlements joe has incurred far outweigh the money he has saved. if you pay a guy to clean your house, does it make sense for him to start cleaning your neighbors instead? we are paying joe to clean our house, and instead he is doing someone elses job and ignoring his own. if you werent so focused on your racism, you would see all the mistakes joe is making. quit trying to claim that people are against law and order just because they dont agree with your racial hatred. we believe in law and order more so than you do. we are not saying to let immigration go unchecked like you claim we do, we just feel there are more laws being broken besides immigration that need to be dealt with. you only see one law being broken, we see many, many laws being broken 

danzigsdaddy
danzigsdaddy topcommenter

 @JoeArpaioFan let me know when you will be on a certain post for a few minutes and i will explain it (and i will do it very civilly)

scottsdalebubbe
scottsdalebubbe

 @armadilloranchbonham  @danzigsdaddy   Armadillo -- you make a great fiction writer.  Cool your jets.  Take a deep breath.  If you or anyone you care about ever lose your medical coverage (you probably won't because you are most likely one of those ancient teabaggers who said, "Keep the government out of health care but don't you touch my Medicare!"), you will be grateful that the ACA was enacted.

Flyer9753
Flyer9753 topcommenter

 @armadilloranchbonham  @danzigsdaddy 

 

That is UTTER Bullshit

 

The Senate makes the ultimate decision on bills, so in the end that is the place it really matters.

 

In the Senate it takes 60 votes, not 50, to override a filibuster.

 

During Obama's 4 years he only had that 60 vote majority fro 29 'working' (i.e. M-F) days and most of that the Senate was on summer recess.

 

http://factleft.com/2012/01/31/the-myth-of-democratic-super-majority/

http://www.huffingtonpost.com/jennifer-m-granholm/debunking-the-myth-obamas_b_1929869.html

 

During Obama's first term the Republicans in the senate sure did fulfill their promise on day 1 of not cooperating and working together as proven by the setting a new record for the number of times they either filibustered or threatening to do so

 

http://www.washingtonpost.com/blogs/ezra-klein/post/the-history-of-the-filibuster-in-one-graph/2012/05/15/gIQAVHf0RU_blog.html

 

Stop repeating Faux talking points that are flat out lies.

 

The ones ruining this country are the republicans with their 5 yr old attitude of "if I don't get everything I want, I'm going to take my ball and go home"

 

Yeah that's real Republican leadership for you.

 

fairymagic13
fairymagic13

 @armadilloranchbonham  @danzigsdaddy Armadillo, you're a damn liar.  The Democrats in the Senate did NOT have a supermajority (61 votes) in the Senate the first year of President Obama's presidency.  Democrats had a super majority for roughly six months and during that time they got the most comprehensive health care act passed in history - The Patient Protection and Affordable Care Act of 2010, or Obama Care!  This was in the face of every procedural obstruction the Republicans could put in its path.  The Republicant Congress should be ashamed at what they did to this country in obstructing a true leader who has been proven twice to be the true representative of the People of the United States of America.  Republicants - get the fugk out of the way - we got this.

danzigsdaddy
danzigsdaddy topcommenter

 @armadilloranchbonham i still say its congress, but its the Obamacare that turned me off and had me jump to Romney. Obama could cure cancer and i will still think of Obamacare first

MaskedMagician1967
MaskedMagician1967

 @JoeArpaioFan Your ass is fucking putrid. I can smell your bullshit even when I'm on vacation in Boston, which is where I am now...

Flyer9753
Flyer9753 topcommenter

 @danzigsdaddy 

 

She has been doing it for so long she has an iron stomach in that respect by now.

danzigsdaddy
danzigsdaddy topcommenter

 @Flyer9753 yeah but at what point do you graduate from "BUBBLY" to "hurlin chunks"? thats the thing she has yet to do at a conference after one of her (glug, glug) strategy meetings

danzigsdaddy
danzigsdaddy topcommenter

 @JoeArpaioFan if YOU say anything other than "you go after the guy in my yard that cant speak english first and foremost" you are a hypocrite. 

danzigsdaddy
danzigsdaddy topcommenter

 @JoeArpaioFan well since you have been posting instead of responding to me, you dont want to know do you?

Flyer9753
Flyer9753 topcommenter

 @UncleCrash 

 

As I stated, yes both sides do this and both sides need to be canned and we start over, but history clearly shows that it's the republicans that take this to an extreme, unlike the democrats.

 

Research this yourself, look at the voting history of our congress as well as the scandal history and you will see I am correct. This congresses performance over the past 4 years is one of the best examples of this, but FAR from the only one.

 

That independent does help since they will most likely caucus with the Dems and right now that is sorely needed to break the republicans habit of filibustering everything and anything, including their own legislation that gives them everything they want, just because the black man in the white house agrees with the legislation. I can show numerous examples of this.

 

Facts are facts. Yes, they are all 'dirty', but the republicans have a lot more work to do cleaning up their own house than the democrats do.

UncleCrash
UncleCrash

 @Flyer9753  

And fact is that democraps will look after democraps, just as Republicants will look after thier own.. I find it funny that the state of Maryland elected a independent for congress......too bad it doesnt help

 

Flyer9753
Flyer9753 topcommenter

 @UncleCrash  @fairymagic13  @armadilloranchbonham  @danzigsdaddy 

 

Uncle

 

While I agree that Congress and more specifically the Senate are the problem, the 385 REPUBLICAN filibusters (a new record, a bad one) during Obama's first term make it very clear that the Republicants are overwhelmingly the biggest part of the problem.

 

Facts are facts and they are un-deniable.

 

Yes, we do need to scrap the Congress and start over, this time with term limits

UncleCrash
UncleCrash

 @fairymagic13  @armadilloranchbonham  @danzigsdaddy Republicans and Democrats are the ones tearing this country apart. Not one or the other its both of them. Because of Bush I was on the verge of not getting SSI when I want to retire. Because of Obama I was guaranteed not getting any SSI and will have to continue working past the age of 85. And healthcare? I don't qualify for it. Didn't when Bush was rez still dont with Obama as prez. You spout venomous words about one party and claim that "Republicants" are destroying this country. Democraps (see I can ad lib words too) are just as equal. The true solution? Dissolve both parties and start from scratch.

 

mikefrombisbee
mikefrombisbee

 @JoeArpaioFan  @fairymagic13 Why don't YOU do it, tough guy? Channel your idol, J.T. Ready? And when are you coming down to the border? I'm still waiting for you to show us all that you're not just another shit-talker..

danzigsdaddy
danzigsdaddy topcommenter

 @JoeArpaioFan  the more you talk, the more you make your hero Joe look like a piece of shit. if morons like you are what he has for support.....who wants to jump on that bandwagon? (not like joe really needs help looking like a piece of shit though)

robert_graham
robert_graham

 @fairymagic13  Well maybe the next nut job that storms into an office and starts shooting will happen where the Democrats gather.

scottsdalebubbe
scottsdalebubbe

 @JoeArpaioFan  @danzigsdaddy  Joe AP fan -- Uhhhh, I guess you haven't noticed that the election is over and Obama won.  He has veto power over repeal.  Not big enough majority in the H of R for a veto override.   Nobody is forcing people to buy insurance, nobody will be levying fines (a judicial procedure), or locking them up if they don't pay for some type of insurance or get it from their employers.  They can buy insurance, get it from their employer, or pay higher taxes and pay out of pocket.   It's their choice.  Just like Medicare eligible people can use it or buy private insurance or pay out of pocket.

 

Hysteria is not good for your health.  Hysteria based on lies is even less good.

mikefrombisbee
mikefrombisbee

 @UncleCrash A nice effort, Uncle Goober, much better than most of the comments posted here. Nonetheless, you can't disguise your sanctimony - or pomposity - any more than Karl Rove could hide to his fat-cat benefactors that he just pissed away $300 million. I do give you credit for trying. As for my use of the term "Goober" and your ineffectual effort to toss it back, I can only say again, please use your own words - they tend to be more effective than p[arroting those used by your verbal adversary. If you do as you did, it sounds like a child arguing - kinda like you accused me of. And you are wrong about the use of the word Goober. I have been reading the PNT for a long time, long enough to remember the Jesus of the Week and the search for Col. Hogan's killer - and unless you can show me where the great Feathered bastard used it before I did, your words remain mere words. I am truly sorry to hear that you may have to work until well beyond the usual retirement age. No one should have to do that. However, writing an advice column WOULD be easy work for you, and an occupation for which you would be eminently suited. Do it soon though, for I fear you are about to enter your dotage - if you are not already slobbering on your chest and dribbling into your adult brief as you slouch in your wheelchair. Since you are so adept at offered unsolicited advice and weighing in on the comments of others, I shall now return the favor and offer you one more recommendation for employment for which I believe you would be aptly suited. Goodyear, as I am sure you know, maintains a fleet of blimps that they display at public events. The cost of helium to fill those blimps most be a drain on that corporation's budget. You, dear sirrah, would be ideal for filling the entire fleet with hot air. Or, if they are willing to take the risk, methane - which I am sure you can produce in great quantities from more than one orifice. Cheers.

MaskedMagician1967
MaskedMagician1967

 @mikefrombisbee  "Your hero is corrupt, incompetent AND a narcissist."

 

Describes Russ Pearce, the former Senate president, to a T.

 

JAF is just a shit-talker. All he does is babble incoherently because he's off the ward and he hasn't been force-fed his medications for the voices in his head yet. 

 

Personally I wouldn't mind a trip to the border. Just not at 2AM.

 

Did you hear what Mark Kelly, former Congresswoman Gabby Giffords' husband had to say about Jared Loughner as well as the idiots in the Legislature and GED Jan? Absolutely brilliant.

UncleCrash
UncleCrash

 @mikefrombisbee Goober cannot be owned by one such as yourself unless you invented the tasty bastards, which I highly doubt and I may have flattered you by using that very word, but if my memory is still good I believe you are not the first person to use that word in fact I KNOW you aren't the first. Unless you are Stephen Lemons AKA The Bird AKA The Feathered Bastard ( either one is good ) You would of course know this if you in fact read his columns for the past 10-15 yrs. But I highly doubt you have. Who knows I have been wrong before. 

 

Any way for consistency's sake I can use any form of literature I deem necessary. After all it is a free country am I right? Then again this "free country" is quite expensive as of late. And I may be "sanctimonious" to the likes of you but in no way or form am I implying that I am superior to you. If I were to do that I wouldn't even have wasted my time with the likes of you ( NOW I am being sanctimonious) So if you would care to continue to be a magniloquent ass by all means its your right. But try not to hurt yourself in the process. 

By the way there too is no cure for that as well but I hear they might develop a research for one. Ill let them know you would be a quality candidate

mikefrombisbee
mikefrombisbee

 @UncleCrash Thank you ever so much for your advice. If I did not get such sage advice from time to time, I just do not think i could bear it. You might want to think about replacing some of the advice columnists in the daily papers. That would be nice easy work that could gratify the ego as well as the pocketbook. One word of advice from me, although I am not near the sage as yourself. Goober is my term, and refers of course to that southern delicacy, a nut that comes in a hard casing. it's far more effective to respond with one's own term of affection. You used Chico the first time. You should have stuck to it for consistency's sake. Imitation, after all, is the most sincere form of flattery, which I am quite sure you did not intend. I looked up sanctimony in the ICD-10 codes and then looked up the prescribed treatments. There is no cure as of yet, but there is hope for one in the future. I wish you well.

UncleCrash
UncleCrash

 @mikefrombisbee You persist in thinking that I don't read everything and never came to these forums and see what a idiot JAF really is. Warning him could be interpreted in more than one way. One could be the way you, Goober from Bisbee, do it which can be derived in a threatening matter, and another is to just scoff at his meaningless banter. 

Fact is you are time and time again feeding into his ego. Just ignore the racist fuck and get on with your life. Calling him out is not solving any issues.

Flyer9753
Flyer9753 topcommenter

 @pszymeczek  @MaskedMagician1967 

 

Looking forward to that.

 

Those appointments are in almost every respect the most important reason why Romney should not have been and was not elected to prez.

 

Romney would have screwed the supreme court and america at the same time with his appointments

mikefrombisbee
mikefrombisbee

 @UncleCrash  @mikefrombisbee Nativists have already visited Bisbee and Douglas. The border draws them like a magnet. The National Alliance came down here during the first so-called Minutemen infestation and tried to stir things up in Douglas, much to their eventual embarrassment. Ranch Rescue-types have been here as well and one of them shot it out with the feds in the Walmart parking lot in Douglas, much to his detriment. It's already been violent on the border, Uncle Goober, for a long time. If you read what I said, Uncle Goober, you would know that I was warning him that visiting the border with bad intent was NOT a smart thing to do. That it could be detrimental to his health. Deadly, in fact. I guess you missed that part - you must have been having a serious attack of sanctimony or something. I am not worried in the least about anyone hurting my friends or family. Bisbee is a quiet, very safe community. But I guess you wouldn't know about that. It's the border itself that is violent, largely due to failed policy. JAF is a shit-talker. He loves to talk about doing violence to people such as illegal aliens. It is apparent that you don't visit these forums often or you would know so. I really don't care what you write, Uncle Goober. Write away in your snarky, self-righteous sanctimony to your heart's content  Have fun. It's a free country.  What you think of me, me no importa. But do try to know what you are writing about before you do so, to save yourself from looking the fool - even if you don't see it yourself. Que le vaya bien, paisano.

mikefrombisbee
mikefrombisbee

 @UncleCrash  @mikefrombisbee Nativists have already visited Bisbee and Douglas. The National Alliance came down here during the first so-called Minutemen infestation and tried to stir things up in Douglas, much to their eventual embarrassment. Ranch Rescue-types have been here as well. It's already been violent on the border, Uncle Goober. I am not worried in the least about anyone hurting my friends or family. Bisbee is a quiet, safe community. It's the border itself that is sometimes violent, largely due to failed policy. .I really don't care what you write. Write away in your snarky sanctimony. Have fun. But do try to know what you are writing about before you do so, to save yourself from looking the fool. Even if you don't see it yourself. Que le vaya bien, paisano.

UncleCrash
UncleCrash

 @mikefrombisbee I have seen JAF in these forums....hes just another troll looking to start the raging you so kindly pointed out and decided to go ahead and retaliate. I have indeed read every comment you posted before I posted mine. My point is that two children ( and yes that pertains to you as well chico) arguing and calling each other out is much like standing next to each other and seeing who can piss the farthest. Regardless of who is right and wrong is completely irrelevant at this point and time. 

 

So I have a question for you Il mio amico, what if these "internet tough guys" really do come out to Bisbee? What if they really try to, whats that phrase you used? Oh yes of course, "channel J.T. Ready"  and then for some reason go to your house  or whatever you reside in and decide to, i dunno, hurt you and your friends or family? I mean if Maricopa is full of racist dumbfucks ( and about 54% of them are) that would be the logical thing to do in their eyes.

 

Any way, the point is whether you think I made a fool of myself or not, wouldn't really matter in the long run. I would have to regret what I wrote first before I feel embarrassed. Clearly I am not.

mikefrombisbee
mikefrombisbee

 @Tommy_Collins  @UncleCrash I know one of the Border patrol agents who was shot in the incident north of Border road last month. He's a really good guy with a very nice family. I worry about those guys. They are part of the community. I worry about my friends and neighbors who live near the border and who are occasionally caught in the crossfire. I also have concern about the hundreds of people who die of thirst or exposure or who are robbed, raped and /or murdered by the smugglers who they pay to get them across the border. The vast majority of them are doing what we would do in a similar situation - trying to make the best of a set of less than desirable choices. We have to live with the consequences of America's failed policies regarding immigration and drug enforcement. Nativism is nothing new in this country and it's surely not our best quality.  Neither is the abject ignorance most Americans display about geography and history. Arpaio has found a way to use that ignorance and the nativism that results from it to his advantage - to flatter his massive ego and to maintain himself in office. For one-issue voters who live in a bubble things are very black and white. Only they aren't. Never have been. Never will be. It takes effort to learn about the issues and a lot of people would rather remain ignorant. That's not good for this state or this country.

 

 

mikefrombisbee
mikefrombisbee

 @UncleCrash Wrong, Uncle Goober.  Read. More. Carefully. I am not an Internet tough guy. I threaten no one with land mines, bullets or lynching. as does the cretin who posts here as the Joe Arpaio Fanboy, who IS talking about killing illegal aliens and doing physical harm to those who disagree with him. IF you visit this forum on you would understand the context of my comments. None of the posters who do their shit-talking here about the border live here, nor do they have the slightest inkling of what conditions on the border are about. Whether you listen or not is irrelevant. America''s sick joke of an immigration policy is reality. Joe Arapio Fanboy, like all of the keyboard commando nativists who post here, loves to talk about killing illegals and planting landmines, but when it comes down to it, it's all talk. We had the self-styled minutemen come here preaching their hate and racism, sitting near the border in their lawn chairs and congratulating themselves about what great American heroes and patriots they were, but that was all bullshit as well. People continue to die on this border. That's reality. They often die because of the bullshit immigration policy and asinine drug enforcement policy this country has on its books. Americans love the low prices of agricultural products and they love to get high, but they have been unwilling to address the causes and effects of bad policy.  And if any of the shit talkers come down here to channel J.T. Ready, they'd BETTER come heavy. Because they will get their asses shot off by smugglers or the Border Patrol. Next time you decide to get all snarky and sanctimonious, try reading more carefully first. It might save you from making a fool of yourself. Me entiendes, mendes?

Tommy_Collins
Tommy_Collins

 @UncleCrash  @mikefrombisbee

 Dear Uncle, I will assume you don't know the history of the repeated mush that JAF spews about whose ass he is going to kick and when and where. Mike was simply reinterating an invitation for JAF to actually show his stuff, instead of, as you say, being a cyber tough guy. JAF, at one time, had threatened to come by my house, "if I knew where you live", and kick my butt, as well. None of us take him seriously and Mike isn't really being a tough guy, just giving JAF something to dream about during class when he's bored. Read, laugh, and live. It's pretty much just harmless entertainment. But it needs to be kept in perspective.

UncleCrash
UncleCrash

 @mikefrombisbee  And yet another internet tough guy talking shit to other internet tough guys. Telling them to come on down raise some hell if you think your bad ass and to "come heavy" I believe it was? And to make peace with their "maker"?

You are just as increasingly irrelevant as those that continue to make empty threats and cling to their "hero". Tell you what when you actually have something better to say then to act like two six year olds fighting over who gets to swing first...I might actually listen.

Tommy_Collins
Tommy_Collins

 @mikefrombisbee  Unfortunately, Mike, your prose went over him like an F-35 over a pelican. Not to mention that you typed far too quickly and there is no one to read your statement to him. Not that he has the ability to understand cogent thought, anyway.

mikefrombisbee
mikefrombisbee

 @JoeArpaioFan  @danzigsdaddy You and the others in Maricopa County like you live in a bubble, where up is down and black is white. You will become increasingly irrelevant as you cling to your myths and faith-based political ideology.  Your hero is corrupt, incompetent AND a narcissist. If that's what you want, keep voting for him and others like him. You will get what you deserve. And when, tough guy, are you going to quit talking shit and come down to the border? I'll be happy to drop you off on Border Road or Gold Gulch Road at about 2 a.m., where you can demonstrate to the Border Patrol and the smugglers what a bad ass you truly are - that all your shit-talking about planting land mines and shooting illegal aliens isn't just shit-talking. But Goober, you'd better come heavy. And make peace with your maker first.

danzigsdaddy
danzigsdaddy topcommenter

 @Flyer9753 i am  niether dem nor rep per say, i go with what i feel is right for me and the country (i am not saying i am the one who is right, i am just saying i am going with what is right for me) because of that ideology, i can call Arpaio a piece of shit....but can not say he is unpatriotic or unamerican. i feel he is doing what he FEELS is right for the country, i just dont think he is correct in plan or execution of that plan.

MaskedMagician1967
MaskedMagician1967

 @Flyer9753  And keep in mind that the SCOTUS is stacked with...REPUBLICANS!!

 

5 of the Justices are Republican, including Chief Justice John Roberts, who issued the decision UPHOLDING ObamaCare.

MaskedMagician1967
MaskedMagician1967

 @danzigsdaddy  ObamaCare should cover your mom's medical bills.

 

I know it helps cover my sister's medical bills. She has stage 4 terminal liver cancer and her healthcare has paid for it all. Surgeries, medicines, CAT scans, hospital stays, everything. It even paid for her to get a glass eye when she lost sight in her right eye.

MaskedMagician1967
MaskedMagician1967

 @JoeArpaioFan  Really? Why don't you ask former Gov. Romney all about the healthcare overhaul he signed into law in 2006 when he was in charge of MA?

 

That is where ObamaCare comes from.

Flyer9753
Flyer9753 topcommenter

 @JoeArpaioFan  @danzigsdaddy 

 

"Obamacare will be repealed. The government can't force people to buy insurance and fine them or lock them up if they don't pay."

 

Lie.

 

Clearly SCOTUS does not agree with you, which since they are a lot smarter than you, is no surprise at all.

Flyer9753
Flyer9753 topcommenter

 @danzigsdaddy 

 

I understand and do hope that things change for the better for you are for her.

 

Everyone has to make these types of decisions based on what is best for them.

danzigsdaddy
danzigsdaddy topcommenter

 @JoeArpaioFan stop. reread the guidelines. they can fine you, and i dont know why you keep thinking they will lock you up, you are  misinformed. it never says anything about locking people up

robert_graham
robert_graham

 @danzigsdaddy Obamacare will be repealed. The government can't force people to buy insurance and fine them or lock them up if they don't pay.

Flyer9753
Flyer9753 topcommenter

 @danzigsdaddy  @armadilloranchbonham 

 

I'm curious why you that turned you off when all the information (costs, quality of care, lost production from illness, etc..) in every nation that has it shows it works and does raise the overall quality of care?

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