Glendale Councilwoman Joyce Clark's Got a Problem with Latinos? Angrily Says that Latina on City Council Doesn't Understand English

Categories: Election 2012
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Glendale Councilwoman Joyce Clark
Councilwoman Joyce Clark is making some twisted comments about Latinos in her campaign literature as she seeks re-election to the Glendale City Council.

 

In her campaign fliers, Clark criticizes fellow Glendale Councilwoman Norma Alvarez because she "has endorsed and is solely supporting Latino candidates for mayor and council."

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Glendale Councilwoman Joyce Clark's campaign flier
Why is it so offensive to Clark that the candidates who Alvarez believes will do the best job for the city happen to be Latino?

 

Crazy thing is, Clark isn't even running against Alvarez.

In September, when Alvarez questioned a comment Clark made during a City Council meeting, Clark shot back: "I'm sorry you can't understand English or what I said."

The Republic reported that Clark's comment "drew gasps from the audience in attendance."

Clark used to be a breath of fresh air on the Glendale council, always poised to ask tough questions her colleagues often chose to ignore. She didn't care that she clashed with Mayor Elaine Scruggs, who has had a tight grip on the reins of city business since the early 1990s.

Scruggs is retiring this year, and given how Clark has been handling the pressure of her re-election bid against newcomer Sam Chavira, a Phoenix firefighter who, (gasp!) happens to be Latino, perhaps it is also time for the longtime councilwoman to hang it up.

Isn't two decades long enough?

It isn't just her comment to Alvarez that raises eyebrows. In a campaign mailer, Clark asks: "Is there is hidden agenda to get a Latino majority on Glendale City Council? Could it be that instead of adopting goals that are good for all Glendale residents their goals are to benefit just one group?"

A hidden agenda? Latinos trying to get a majority on the council? Is that some evil conspiracy? Is maintaining an Anglo majority on the Glendale City Council more preferable?

When we reached Clark at her Glendale home, she didn't even try to explain.

She tells New Times she's not going to comment and makes a point of repeatedly telling us that two of her grandchildren are "half-Hispanic" and "there isn't a racist bone in her body."

"It's all political," she says.

Then why, we ask, did she even stick the word "Latino" in her flier, and question whether Latinos, if elected, are capable of serving the needs of the entire community.

She doesn't answer, repeating only that she isn't racist.

The truth is, there is no hidden agenda. The Latino community has been and continues to work hard to mobilize neighbors, friends, and family members out to the polls so their voices can be represented on school and county boards, city councils, and among state and federal lawmakers.

From Brown Wave, an article we published in January.

Earl de Berge, a longtime political pollster in the Valley, says there are several forces driving greater participation among Latinos.

"Young activists are willing to get out in the streets and do the work, and, frankly, some of the old guard doesn't do that anymore," he says. "Part of it is pure anger. There is a lot of anger in the Latino community about the political system and how they are being treated like second-rate citizens. They're sick and tired of it."

The Latino vote is going to be pivotal in the presidential election. "I think that it could be very important in 2012 and continue to grow in importance with the population," Gary Segura, a principal in the polling firm Latino Decisions, tells New Times.

 

Comments like Clark's demonstrate exactly why Latinos across the Arizona -- and across the nation -- are pushing for better representation.

Glendale is in dire straights -- fighting to hang on to the Phoenix Coyotes hockey team, raising taxes on the backs of residents to keep financially afloat, and engaging in an endless and losing battle with the Tohono O'odham Nation to block their proposed nearby resort-style casino.

And Clark is spending time printing up fliers that attack a movement to politically engage Latinos?

Back in her day, Clark was a tough elected official with reasonable views. From what we see, it's sad that those days may be behind her.



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Sambo7
Sambo7

Me too, I'm frustrated with Latinos not understanding America's Politics. .. You would think that most Latinos, coming from Mexico's socialistic regimes, would never in a hundred years vote for a another socialist president who is a pathological liar, a Mohammad worshiping Muslim and is a homosexual to booth!!  I thought Latinos were christians and intelligent enough to know the difference.  But maybe not!    And of course, in most circles Obama is considered to be the anti-christ, for sure.    But, perhaps they'll believe it as well when they read the following links .. 

(I have lots of proof)  Read and learn:   

 

http://www.wnd.com/2012/10/trinity-church-members-reveal-obama-shocker/

 

http://www.wnd.com/2012/10/obama-didnt-join-wrights-church-to-follow-jesus/

 

http://www.wnd.com/2012/10/jesse-jackson-wright-arranged-obama-marriage/

 

http://hillbuzz.org/why-wont-the-agenda-driven-media-report-on-barack-obama-being-gay-dating-actor-kal-penn-and-frequenting-chicago-bathhouse-mans-country-you-know-the-way-they-leaped-to-trash-herman-cain-with-u

 

http://www.wnd.com/2012/09/did-obama-send-a-gay-ambassador-to-libya/

 

 

 

 

 

maxonepercent
maxonepercent

"Why is it so offensive to Clark that the candidates who Alvarez believes will do the best job for the city happen to be Latino?"  Well at least you are being honest about your bias and possible racist motivations.

TeamAwesomePhx
TeamAwesomePhx

@billyscheel the agenda is not hidden. We are electing someone who has some respect for our growing community

nov6esNuestro
nov6esNuestro

@billyscheel the agenda is not hidden. We are electing someone who has some respect for our growing community

youproductsucks
youproductsucks

Back to what you know..outting gays and race baiting.  At least we know you didn't steal anyone else's intellectual property in this article.

 

Once a plagiarist, always a plagiarist.

robert_graham
robert_graham

So what if she has a problem with Latinos. She has a right to her opinion.

IAMU85308
IAMU85308

Yes, all of the Glendale races (not skin color--btw) are being hotly contested. Outside groups are trying to influence these races and for what reason? Maybe that should be the real story, or how about looking into the dealings of one of the "newcomers" (Mr. Chavira) and his ties to the National Association of Hispanic Firefighters (NAHF), and money collected by him at an event that has never been turned over. Yes Ms. Clark seems to have made a gaffe in her wording, but it's easy to understand when Ms. Alvarez has missed a good portion of meetings this year. Maybe if she were in attendance, she'd "understand" more of what was going on. Many people are frustrated with Ms. Alvarez, but Ms. Clark, for good or bad, said something about it out of frustration.

 

 

royalphoenix
royalphoenix

Glendale should have smoked the peace pipe with the TO 2 years ago. Scruggs and the city council stiil don't understand that people going into casinos have $ in their pockets. How is the NHL work stoppage treating COG now? Instead of $3 million for losing legal battles, how about $1 million for an outside audit of COG finances ? I believe last year they were about to issue municipals at 7%. Let COG wallow in the mire. peace

bdickus2001
bdickus2001

"Isn't two decades long enough?"

 

She hasn't been on the city council for two decades. She served from 1992-1996 and was did not serve on the council again until 2000.

gfallar
gfallar

Ms. Alonzo...

If you took the time to read CM Clark's literature, the section you refer to is not anti Latino and could only be construed as same if certain facts are omitted.

 

The "hidden agenda" referrred to in the literature is based on the fact that the Phoenix Monarch Group (PMG) was being touted by CM Alvarez (and the Goldwater Institute) as a legitimate group to manage Jobing.com arena, despite the fact that their experience in no way qualified them for the task. Because CM Alvarez was pushing PMG as a legitimate contender for running the arena, she is mentioned in the literature.

 

Your bias becomes obvious when there is NO mention in your article of the actual content within the literature that pertains to the questionable group that Mr. Chavira is tied to directly. It is obvious, from reading the literature, that the PMG deal is the focus, NOT the race of anyone involved. Yes, it's true that the group is almost entirely Hispanic as is CM Alvarez. Should people, even political candidates, be forbidden from even mentioning this at risk of having the "race card" pulled from the deck? Yes it's true that Mr. Chavira is currently a business partner with at least one of the founding members of the Phoenix Monarch Group. So, isn't it possible that CM Clark noticed that coincidence as have others? One has to wonder why you don't feel that conflict of interest is worth noting. Your thoughts?

 

Have you taken the time, Ms. Alonzo, to view the video of the meeting in question where CM Clark makes the statement to CM Alvarez? I am not defending the statement, I assume CM Clark would in retrospect use different language. I am, however, defending her point. CM Clark explained the casino (which CM Alvarez supports) and the fact that the Tohono O'odham would essentially have a sovereign nation within Glendale. Please watch the video beginning at 46:10 and decide for yourselves if CM Clark is making a racial remark or just an exasperated remark toward a person who wasn't really listening to her five minute explanation. Continue listening past "the event" to where Mayor Scruggs, who is not being accused of racism, goes through an explanation of what sovereign nation means to Glendale AGAIN for the benefit of people who didn't understand it the first few times she explained it.

 

Fairness has not been a tradition for "journalism" for some time now, I see you appear to be keeping up the trend in the opposite direction.

 

teknik
teknik

I'm married to a beautiful latino and my dad cannot understand why it pisses me the fuck off when he sends his racist tea party mexican hate jokes to me. 

billyscheel
billyscheel

@TeamAwesomePhx Tell us who your candidate is for Glendale Yucca District. Not @clarkjv... @chavira4council ? Spell it out!

sarum
sarum

@royalphoenix No - cuz residents are being forced to pay. They wanted us to agree on higher taxes on sales. Most will just drive over to Fry's or Walmart in Phoenix and pay much less on their purchases. I believe they now charge 10 cents on every dollar cuz that's what Walmart at 59th & Bell charged me yesterday. They have other ways of making residents pay - usually the poorer ones - it's a form of redlining/class warfare and everybody's doin it doin it doin it & our lovely pro-business Corporation Commission just gives a wristslap behind the scenes while people are made homeless with these practices - but of course the wealthy cannot understand how devastating these excess and illegal charges can be. Interesting how you cannot file e-mail complaint with AZ Corporation Commission. Nope you have to have a car so you can access a printer so you can take it to mailing facility so it doesn't get stolen out of your mailbox. Kinda like how the courts are way out in Surprise now. Ensures that the sickly poor and poor poor will have extreme difficulty getting justice when they are too poor to afford car, too old and/or sick to suffer a lengthy busride to that remote location and too shut-in to even have a friend left that has means to take them. Everything in AZ is ALWAYS to enable the monied set - no justice for real people! Is TO going to build huge jail next to their sovereign land by casino? Cuz how many people will realize how easy it is to violate seemingly arbitrary tribal laws? Especially if they have been imbibing.

TruConserv
TruConserv

 @gfallar No disrespect intended, but your writing style is obfuscating whatever point you are trying to make.

 

Rather than adopting a writing style that mimics what you seem to think is formal, proper argument, perhaps you could back it down to the language you use in everyday conversation?

 

I'd love to know what you're upset about, sincerely, but what you posted above is simply indecipherable to someone unfamiliar with your position.

TeamAwesomePhx
TeamAwesomePhx

@billyscheel yes chavira a firefighter who shares our frustrations. We believe he is the right man for the job :)

gfallar
gfallar

 @TruConserv

Sorry, TruConserv, that's prety much the way I speak as well.

 

To summarize, I objected to the obvious bias of the article, ignoring the actual facts. I objected to the "race card" in this instance, since it is impossible to disprove a negative yet makes a powerful statement meant to discredit a person. If I asked you "Have you stopped beating your wife", for example, it would be similar to the charges against CM Clark.

 

sarum
sarum

@TruConserv @gfallar Funny. I have absolutely no problem comprehending what was written. You have serious problem. Try reading it aloud to yourself.

QstionEvythng
QstionEvythng

 @bdickus2001

 Just playing....I do that often as well.  The way it ended up sounded a lot like one of our governor's public speaking brain farts.  I miss Disquis which allowed you to edit your post while the service that New Times switched to only allows you to delete.

sarum
sarum

@TruConserv @gfallar TC, were you raised in AZ? Cuz graduates of public school in other states have no difficulty following GF at all. What is bizarre is moving to AZ and having everybody insulting you for using "three dollar words" and a logical thought process that they can't follow. THAT is what is bizarre. And then to have the governor of a state that has been known to produce sub-standard education for decades, who claims to want to attract good business, then brags about cutting education MORE than any other state? THAT is BIZARRE. Also Glendale's financial problems are not so dificult to understand if the average graduate cannot mentally follow typical linguistic style of council meetings they are incapable of registering objection. CONSPIRACY THEORY OR FACT?

TruConserv
TruConserv

 @gfallar If that is how you speak, then you should be accustomed to people staring at you and asking you to repeat yourself.  If you and Clark speak alike, it would seem on its face inappropriate that she complain about others not possessing some requisite level of English comprehension.

 

Your writing -- and by extension your speech -- is simply bizarre.

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