Should Foreign Hells Angels Be Allowed in the United States?

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See also: Hells Angels Sue Feds Over Ban on Members Entering U.S.

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The Hells Angels Motorcycle Club has filed a lawsuit against several federal agency heads -- including Homeland Security Janet Napolitano and Secretary of State Hillary Clinton -- claiming the group's foreign members have been wrongfully banned from entering the United States.

The federal lawsuit contends that several foreign Hells Angels members applied for visas last year to attend one of the club's major events in New Hampshire, and they were denied, based on their membership with the Hells Angels.

The lawsuit recognizes that Homeland Security and the Department of State made an agreement to define the Hells Angels as a "known criminal organization" in the Department of State's Foreign Affairs Manual -- thus making them ineligible to obtain a visa.

But, according to the lawsuit, "[m]any members" of the Hells Angels don't have criminal records, and the club says it's not a "criminal organization."

Well, they are a "street gang" in Maricopa County -- at least, according to disbarred and disgraced ex-County Attorney Andrew Thomas.

The Hells Angels are ultimately seeking a permanent injunction against the rules that are keeping its members from getting visas -- which would likely apply to other biker gangs listed by the State Department, like the Outlaws, Bandidos, and Mongols, as well as street gangs like MS 13 and the 18th Street gang.

That said, should the feds let the Angels in?

Cast your vote below:





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fnoble94118
fnoble94118

This is ridiculous!!!Typical U.S. Gov.'t Bull $hit!!!The members are trying to come for funerals or a rally.I find it funny that we allow drug lords and dictators with atrocious Human Rights violations into this country on visas to jaw jack with Presidents over the years,and that is o.k.But to let MC Brothers from outside the country come?What's next.every tourist we have come into this country will have to be check for any kind of affiliation to any group that the U.S. Gov'.t deems "a gang"Alot of the Brothers have no prior records,it is like any type of society.You will always have those who get into trouble,does that mean the whole community should be punished?No.Just another disgraceful act this Obama admin. is involved in,makes this Army Vet sad,what this country is turning into!!!MLLH&R!!!Hooah!!

whyme1969
whyme1969

Why not? there are people flowing through the south border of AZ causing more problems than a foreign biker ever did

SIDEKICK
SIDEKICK

WHAT HAPPEND TO FREEDOM GOVERMENTS ARE MAKING ANEYONE THAT DOES NOT FIT THERE PLAN A CRIMNAL  FOR BENING IN A CLUB NOTE !I SAID CLUB NOT A GANG OR ANY OHTER BULL CRAP THE FEDS WANT TO CALL IT  RIDE FREE BROTHERS

csrmpaintrr
csrmpaintrr

The Cartels are allowed to cross international borders. The Mafia is allowed to cross international borders! Yet you tell me that a club of Motorcyclists are not! This world is so screwed up, that this country has no priorities. I say let them come in an out of whatever country they wish. They've done nothing wrong....

lovemybike29
lovemybike29

It is my understanding that anyone, any color, any race can come to united states where does it say Hells Angels cannot. We let people get drivers license that are not citizens, you can go to school, if your not a citizen you get better health insurance that me. Who has the right to say these people should not be allowed in this country? Another example of injustice in this country.  

mitchellflint
mitchellflint

"Inasmuch as ye have done it unto one of the least of these my brethren, ye have done it unto me.". - J. Christ (Matthew 25: 40).

jas158157
jas158157

STILL YET CHILD MOLESTERS AND TERRORISTS TRAVEL DAILY THROUGHOUT THE WORLD.....I'D SUPPORT A FEW MILLION MOTORCYCLE ENTHUSIASTS OVER 1 CHILD MOLESTER OR BOMB BUILDER ANY DAY...ENUFF SAID!

jas158157
jas158157

I'M ALL IN FOR THE RIGHTS OF EVERYONE TO VISIT ANY FAMILY WORLDWIDE...AT ANY TIME...UNLESS THE 7YRS. 6MOS. I SPENT IN THE U.S.M.C. DIDN'T PROTECT ANY RIGHTS FOR ANYONE.....J.A. SMITH    INTERN. V.P. CALIFORNIA PRES....SATAN'S REJECTED NOMADS M.C. LH&R

dognuts08
dognuts08

I think they all 81 worldwide should be aloud to go where ever they want!!! 81 SFFS 4L Mad Love & Respect 

hellzNZ
hellzNZ

Discrimination against the  MC club is appalling...SUPPORT 81 WORLD WIDE 

mariefrancis8119
mariefrancis8119

Lets share this all around the world !... The U.S government sucks , its them & cops that give club names " street gangs" criminals ... its a Bike club the best there ever will be... like any other top club , ... like a gentlemen's club .. .... do they call them things like this . NO of course not .. because they dont ride bikes and wear casual clothes and they see past their tattoos. ... there is so meny bent cops etc out there , BUT do we care do we make anything of it.... SO WHY TREAT THE BEST BIKE CLUB IN THE WORLD LIKE THIS... DISRESPECTFUL .... they want to concentrate on how they fuck up with letting terrorist into the us ... .....

boo12
boo12

yes for allow

darkknight.1964
darkknight.1964

Why does the U.S govt want to keep out good people  but let terrorist fly airplanes into buildings, and we are full of illeagles our govt is fubar

billypreacher61
billypreacher61

I am a Chaplain for a MC in Mesa AZ. I have married and buried many Hell's Angles and they are like any group of people in our country.They go to war to defend country, they work and pay taxes like everyone else and they should be respected for it. Don't think for a minute that if a Hell's Angel

goes out on his own and screws up and makes bad choices hes not disiplined by his own. I have seen many that have wore a HA patch let it go to their head and disrespected others and didn't stand for the respect and dignity that HA demands and they don't last.  Have some of them at times messed up? Let me ask you... have you ever messed up? You know as well as I do we all have! We play, We pay. That goes for everyone. Do the crime do the time. But listen, if we were on a bowling team and one of us screws up should the whole team suffer? We need to stop lumping every body into one mold. There are good and there are bad in every group in every society. An HA member once told me "The Patch dosn't make the Man, The Man makes the Patch. Lets give respect to whom respect is due. I personally RESPECT what HA stands for at their core. It has been an honor to have known many of them. PS....This comes out of all respect and without malice..Moms, Dads, Preachers, Teachers, Police Officers and HA..... Matthew 7:12 Therefore all things whatsoever ye would that men should do to you, do ye even so to them:

 Love and Respect,

Billy "Preacher" Sample

jon49417
jon49417

if the Bin Ladens can get a visa wth?

muttley68
muttley68

I vote yes... Muttley v.president street knights La Spezia Italy....

 

daceweb
daceweb

ANYONE should be able to enter in any place/state.

djmikepaolucci
djmikepaolucci

As an associate member of Local 81, here in Lynn Ma, I speak from experience when I tell you, that not all HA clubhouses are the same, if you look at their vests, you can tell who the guys are, that " put in work", and they are not to be screwed with, but their are also patched in members who are Lawyers, and doctors and Forbes magazine listed businessmen, to infer that all HA's are criminals, is very short sighted, the 1% patch is a badge of honor, it means you aren't willing to sell out your brother, when shit goes down! Playing devils advocate for a second, let's not be naive, they have documented cases of criminal activity, involving HA's, dating all the way back to Sonny Barger, but most modern day members, wear the patch because it is symbol of being fed up with conformity, and are sick of being socially engineered, by government (Both local, and federal) that no longer can be trusted to do the right thing by the people! This not for the feint of heart, and more guys wash out of being a prospect, than wash out of Marine boot camp, if you have what it takes to wear the patch, you don't give a damn, what the monkeys on here think of you, but until you cross legal lines, you should be allowed to come, and go as you please, "MC" means Motorcycle Club, and that's the Bottom line, they are just that, a club, not a gang, and with the RICO act, are not nearly as likely to do something so stupid, as to risk losing both their freedom, and their patch!

rodneygarcia693
rodneygarcia693

As long as a person does not have a criminal record they should be allowed to travel anywhere in this world freely it is their god givin right period. Gee i wonder if christian rider groups are banned too hmmmm?

666clarence
666clarence

If they have not been charged with a crime it is total discrimination.I think they should stop letting in muslims,immigrants,mexicans ect first,this is total bull and against peoples rights no just theres,if people would just stop voting the pricks in office would not be in power.Ftw 

XxREEPERxX
XxREEPERxX

Listen this is all about the damn goverment taking everyones rights away from them systematically, the HA's are standing up not only for their own, but for us as well. Personally, I could give a rats ass wether or not the members from other country's have a record or not, that would be like the goverment telling my uncle tommy since he has previously been in prison, your not allowed to leave the United States......I mean seriously people!!! WTF is wrong with this country????

juju92864
juju92864

Instead of saying yes they should be allowed in (which I do agree to by the way) the question we should be asking is why is this even an issue? The HA are not organized crime, they don't go around killing or robbing people, I don't get what the problem is. Anyone that even remotely knows anything about them (and before you ask--I have family members who are HA's and a bunch of very dear friends that are as well) knows they are not violent...they do charity rides to raise money for a lot of very good causes and no one complains then. Let them in....it will be an improvement over some of the assholes that are here. MLH&R

Sunshyne_42
Sunshyne_42

Yes they should be allowed in. We didn't ban all Muslims because there were some terrorists among them because not ALL Muslims are terrorists....not all Hells Angels are criminals just because a few select individuals have made poor choices doesn't mean we should punish an entire organization.

urblinged
urblinged

land of the free and home of the brave,,,, FREE,,,, ya,, what orginization or group is next,,,,remember,, when they came for the other guy and we did nothing,, well then they came for me,, but there was no one left to stand up for me,,,,,, its not the group it the princaple,, every inch they take is the loss of your Freedom,,,

dpokrant
dpokrant

YES THEY SHOULD BE ABLE TO GO ANYWHERE AT ANYTIME THEY WISH.

javierbaz
javierbaz

Hells Angels are angels compared to illegal aliens who sneak into our country. Yes allow them without a doubt.

robert_graham
robert_graham

Anybody who things we should allow illegal aliens here should not say that HA's should not be allowed here.

robert_graham
robert_graham

Why is this even an issue when the issue at hand is why do we even allow foreign illegal aliens here.

TaxpayingVoter
TaxpayingVoter

They should be evaluated like any other people.  If they have clean records, let them in.

MesaMan
MesaMan

 @djmikepaolucci That I do believe since groups like the Vagos now has a worse rep than the HAMC.

OFFO
OFFO

 @djmikepaolucci

 So, do you apply that standard to the Outlaws Nation as well? You sound like a reasonable man...just asking...

jon49417
jon49417

 @javierbaz they will buy a ticket and probably ship or rent /buy bikes when they drive up

ptcgaz
ptcgaz

 @JoeArpaioFan really,  I for one don't want any violent criminals here. Being here illegally isn't a violent crime, it's not even a crime. I also do not know if I actually want "illegals" here either, but at the same time if they are here we need to treat them decently. If you wanted to go to another country and had a criminal record do you think they would let you stupid racist pompous retarded ass in?

MaRyKe
MaRyKe

 @JoeArpaioFan  I just couldn't resist....you're a bit funny isn't it? Did you had any history lessons in the past? America is full of foreigners, didn't you know that? Started about 400 years ago, when a lot of foreign illegal 'aliens' run over the Indians and made America their own.

In your case...I think you just simply forgot where you came from and your so called hero Arpiano? Where did he come from? 

So who is calling the kettle black?

Gosh...I'm no American but even I know that!

 

On topic: because it's about Angels, not about foreign aliens (most 'aliens' are already in I guess).

First of all, Angels are NOT illegal and should have every right to visit whomever they like, wherever they like, just like I can and hope you can ( I must be honest thou, I would refuse you in my country based on your funny believes and you don't even have to wear a jacket!).

Second, they are no aliens, they are more down to earth than you, knowing that after reading your comments. And if you think the bad comes from outer space, you're even more silly then I already think.

Third, if you are a criminal or illegal, every country has the right to refuse your entrance if they want to. But only then.

 

As I just said, no Angel is illegal and if one is a criminal and has (a true) criminal record , he would be the last to wine about not entering a county.

 

But if you are an Angel and no criminal (news for you, they do exist, stop reading the wrong papers en websites) you should be allowed in.

That's fair and honest. The way we would like every country to be, or not?

javierbaz
javierbaz

 @JIPITECA And 99.9% of illegal aliens from Mexico have been arrested at one time in their lives. And at least 98.7% are for violent crimes.

chops1975
chops1975

 @ptcgaz

 isn't that the point; not all ha have a criminal record but they would still be refused....

Exiled81
Exiled81

@JIPITECA Lol your brothers Curly and Larry you fucking stooge wannabee

Exiled81
Exiled81

@JIPITECA The only one caught lying is you. Pointless to argue with a halfwit who can't get his story straight. here's a little advice for you kiddie, take some spelling lessons and get out of your moms basement. You are not fooling anyone. You have been exposed as an IMPOSTER

Exiled81
Exiled81

@JIPITECA Why would I answer the questions of an obvious liar.

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