Ken Bennett's Had About Three Months to Give Hawaii a "Legitimate" Reason to Verify Obama's Birth Certificate

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Arizona Secretary of State Ken Bennett
Last week, Arizona Secretary of State Ken Bennett raised some eyebrows after saying he's not a "birther," but due to constituent concerns, he's just checking with Hawaii to make sure President Obama wasn't born in Kenya.

"They have yet to respond," Bennett's spokesman Matthew Roberts told New Times.

Turns out, officials in Hawaii did respond, telling Bennett in March that they'd get right to it -- as soon as Bennett proves he's doing this for "a legitimate government purpose."

According to the Hawaii Department of the Attorney General, they're waiting for Bennett to respond.

Joshua Wisch, an assistant to the Hawaii Attorney General, says Bennett reached out to their office in March asking for the verification.

"The Department explained that if Secretary Bennett wanted information beyond what is publicly available, then...Secretary Bennett would need to provide legal authority showing that his office is 'a governmental agency or organization who for a legitimate government purpose maintains and needs to update official lists of persons in the ordinary course of the agency's or organization's activities,'" Wisch says. "Once Mr. Bennett can show this, he will be provided the 'verification in lieu of a certified copy'...

"Since March, the Department has engaged in numerous telephone and email conversations with Secretary Bennett's office to respond to his request, but his office has so far failed to provide the adequate authority," he continues. "As soon as Secretary Bennett's office provides adequate legal authority, it will receive the verification."

Aside from pointing out that Hawaii government officials have already gone through this routine a few times, Bennett himself already explained why he'd requested this verification in an email obtained by conspiracy theorist Jerome Corsi, and it's not about updating lists.

"Because of the importance and profile of the president's case, and at the request of many constituents, I have gone the extra step of asking the state of Hawaii to verify the facts contained in his birth certificate," Bennett's email said, which was confirmed by his spokesman.

Despite playing to their games, Bennett maintains he's not a "birther," but Hawaii's not really interested in playing anyway.

"The State of Hawaii would like to be responsive to all legitimate requests for information, but to do so we must comply with Hawaii law governing the protection of our vital records," Wisch says.


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Sheila Demus
Sheila Demus

Excuse me, liberals! It was your beloved that told everyone he was born in Kenya. Let me REPEAT this a little better, so, you liberals don't mistake what I am saying. Your beloved fake President Obama told everyone with his own mouth that he was born in Kenya. So, either you all on the crack pipe or you just don't give a dam about the truth.

Montana
Montana

Ken Bennett should either put up or shut-up (or is he Alfalfa from the Little Rascals).

Lets be clear none of these Birther dullards have taken there "Birther
Documents of facts, more like lies" and won a case in the “U.S. Courts”,
maybe in their simple minds (if they have any) but not in our “U.S.
Courts”, so unless Birthers/ teabaggers, whatever you want to be called,
win a court case, we will continue to see as dullards, liars or racist
or maybe all three. Deal with that baby!

And enjoy voting for the Mitt, the first "Republican Anchor Baby"! Too Funny

Concerned Citizen / Taxpayer
Concerned Citizen / Taxpayer

Count me in as well!  Arizona is being run like a Third World dicatorship. After decades of Republican control and abuse of power the precedent is well established.

Anon
Anon

Now Ken Bennett looking for his more than 15 minutes of fame. Wow! All over the national media. We're so impressed! Where can I buy a "bobblehead" with his eyes twirling in inward circles?

Bnbk
Bnbk

Count me in !

Gerry_C
Gerry_C

Bennett is either:
1. Deliberately trying to create a paper trail that could be spun to support OSB's contention of Hawaiian stonewalling. 
2. Maliciously playing games and wasting the tax dollars and productivity of Hawaii and Arizona. 
3. He is so incompetent that he can't complete a simple request to validate his statutory authority over a period of three months.

Governor Bennett?  Hell, he is making Jan Brewer look less dim.

PeeOnTea
PeeOnTea

According
to TPM, earlier today “Bennett Backs Off Birther Threat, Apologizes To Arizona”.
However, if you read Bennett email Sent Friday April 27 2012 to Brian Reilly, the "cc"
list is the who is who of local racist, pro-gun violence Arizona Republican Tea
Party loonies, like Tom Ballantyne, Jeff Lichter, Jim Wise, Gabe Zolna, Wesley
W. Harris; or subversive radio talk shows like Crossraods with Vans, or
assholes like Rod Riddle who cannot get enough of birther queen Orly Taitz; or Tom
Jenney, the tax cutting guru who you might remember from the now  famous Billionaires for Weathcare vidoes in 2009.
What a bunch!

http://blogs.phoenixnewtimes.c...

Bennett
should be removed from office right away!
 

Denise Betters
Denise Betters

:From: Jill T. Nagamine
Sent: Saturday, May 19, 2012 3:38 PM
To: Bennett, Ken
Subject: RE: Request from the Arizona Secretary of State’s Office

Dear Mr. Bennett:I am in receipt of your email dated May 17, 2012.

As I have informed you and Mr. Drake, Hawaii law requires that for verification of a vital record the requestor must satisfy the requirements of section 338-18(g), Hawaii Revised Statutes, which provides:(g) The department shall not issue a verification in lieu of a certified copy of any such record, or any part thereof, unless it is satisfied that the applicant requesting a verification is:(1) A person who has a direct and tangible interest in the record but requests a verification in lieu of a certified copy;(2) A governmental agency or organization who for a legitimate government purpose maintains and needs to update official lists of persons in the ordinary course of the agency’s or organization’s activities;(3) A governmental, private, social, or educational agency or organization who seeks confirmation of a certified copy of any such record submitted in support of or information provided about a vital event relating to any such record and contained in an official application made in the ordinary course of the agency’s or organization’s activities by an individual seeking employment with, entrance to, or the services or products of the agency or organization;(4) A private or government attorney who seeks to confirm information about a vital event relating to any such record which was acquired during the course of or for purposes of legal proceedings; or(5) An individual employed, endorsed, or sponsored by a governmental, private, social, or educational agency or organization who seeks to confirm information about a vital event relating to any such record in preparation of reports or publications by the agency or organization for research or educational purposes.

I asked you for legal authority that establishes your right to obtain verification, and your email of May 17, 2012 provides me with references to Arizona Revised Statutes 16-212, 16-301, 16-502, 16-507, and unnamed others. These statutes seem to deal with election of presidential electors, nomination of candidates for printing on official ballot of general or special election, form and contents of ballot, and presentation of presidential candidates on ballot, but none, as far as I can tell, establish the authority of the Secretary of State to maintain and update official lists of persons in the ordinary course of his activities. I researched other sections of the Arizona Revised Statutes and was unable to find the necessary authority.

If I have missed something, please let me know. My client stands willing to provide you with the verification you seek as soon as you are able to show that you are entitled to it.

Thank you,

Jill T. Nagamine
Deputy Attorney GeneralState of Hawaii

BOBT12
BOBT12

 It clear that Obama was born in
Kenya, that is why they had to steal the document in his home country.
His grandmother said that he was born in Kenya, we should trust is
grandma. The Banksters own Obaba, this birther truth is part of their briefcase full of blues
they hold over his head. The AP had reported that he was born in Kenya.
Hillary's campaign made a issue of this during that time. What will it
take to wake up to the truth? 

We cannot see Obama's school record, he is occupying the
Office of the President and the background on this impostor is missing
or hidden. Obama is supposed to have a transparent Administration, yet
everything is suppressed by this corrupt Administration. The Birth
Certificate is a clear fraud, Kenyan records are missing, fraudulent
Social Security number, forged Selective Service documents, more AKAs
than most other CIA agents, and on and on.

Now this imposter is
saying he can lead us into World War III without even consulting
Congress, just pissed on the Supreme Court over his rotten ObamaNoCare,
cutting off the oil pipeline, close down energy industry with the EPA,
throws billions at his Green Energy fraud, forcing companies out of the
country, shutting down raw food producers, shipping guns to Mexico, etc.

Sheriff Arpaio is doing a great job in investigating this situations. I
am happy that someone is picking up the ball. Fraud is all over Barry
Obama, we don't even know his real name. Let's see, Barry's
birthcertificate: Fraudulent. His Selective Service registration: a Forgery. His school record: Hidden. His SSN: Stolen! The beat goes on. Barry is the epitome of "Gangster Government" (by David Freddoso: "Gangster Government: Barack Obama and the new Washington Thugocracy", New York Times Bestselling author of "The Case Against Barack Obama"). It's time to unload this puppet, he's not my President!

http://www.suijurisforum.com/o...

Guest
Guest

Congratulations, Arizona!
Your goverment has finally become so dumb, racist and corrupt, you've managed to make the Deep South look positively erudite by comparison. That couldn't have been easy. 

david saint
david saint

I thought i saw something online a few weeks ago regarding one state questioning another in an instance like this...and I thought it said it was against Federal law, but I cant find it now....im going to look further today, check it out if you have a chance...

WhoKnows
WhoKnows

Romney best address the fact that his AZ campaign co-chair has caught the train to crazy town.

Nightmote
Nightmote

Does anybody doubt that Ken Bennet or his authorized representative was sitting at his desk functioning as Arizona Secretary of State when he contacted the State of Hawaii Department of Health and asked on behalf of the voters of the State of Arizona for direct confirmation of the existence of a document verifying the birthplace of Barak Obama, clearing the way for that candidate's name to appear on the ballot in November?

Birthers may be as nutty as squirrel crap, but the fact is that Bennet's request ought to have been dealt with as a matter of course.

tr7fan
tr7fan

verification in lieu of a certified copy??? sounds like they already know its not a valid bc

tr7fan
tr7fan

things should get real fun now . im sure obama has heard the news who knows he may try a hostile takeover of arizona .lol 

jtmunkus
jtmunkus

Ken Bennett is Mitt Romney's co-chair in Arizona.  This is a political move to smear the sitting president with lies, by an extremist who is misusing the power of his elected office purely for political gain.

He will find that - just in the past few weeks - President Obama's legal team has taken off its gloves, and the president's attorneys are just getting ramped up.  Just this month, they've demonstrated that they are most assuredly done with the birthers.  And the next few months will bring the downfall of most of the prominent, vexatious litigant birthers in court - because the president finally decided to fight back instead of ignoring birthers and hoping they'd go away.

 

Conservative American
Conservative American

Bennet knows first hand how easy it is to fake a birth certificate.

After all his child-raping, rectum-poling pervert of a son is listed as Human on his birth certificate ... and anyone who has followed that case knows that can't be true.

Oma
Oma

Thank you.  And yes, I'm right with you on that one! Sign me up.

majii
majii

Hawaii officials have told Bennett what information they need to fill his request, but he is trying to give the impression that his request has been ignored.  The ball is really  in his court, so it is up to him to prove that he has a legitimate reason for asking for a verification of the president's BC/COLB.  I guess he doesn't have a legitimate reason (or cannot think of one) so he lies to make it seem as if Hawaii's officials are trying to cover up something.  I recall that in 2010 the state of Hawaii passed a new law stating that one has to prove he/she has a legitimate reason for requesting someone else's BC and/or COLB because officials were overwhelmed by people asking for information to which they have no right.  No one is supposed to be able to get another person's BC/COLB because of privacy concerns.  I can get a copy of my BC, but I cannot get my COLB because the state keeps it for its vital statistics records.  It is the only record my state has that proves that I was born in this state.  Some of these people screaming for Hawaii to provide them with copies of the president's BC/COLB would be outraged should someone ask their state officials for the same documents.  They totally forget about the Golden Rule and privacy concerns when it pertains to others.

Walter Concrete
Walter Concrete

Straw man story...the whole issue is him being of Indonesian descent not Kenyan, so you're arguing about the wrong thing.    Typical straw man.    Is this just "doing your job" NewTimes?

ExpertShot
ExpertShot

Republicants don't have the balls to play fair - they have to cheat, it's in their genes (or NOT in the jeans as the case may be)!

mirele
mirele

Talkingpointsmemo DOT com has the e-mails Bennett sent to Hawai'i officials, and the responses. 

I wish I had good Photoshop skills, because I'd PS ole Ken's mug on a panda and start calling him a Pander Bear to the birfers. Hell, I can do that anyway!

teknik1200
teknik1200

Sounds to me like he's deliberately sandbagging hawaii because if they don't send any extra verification outside what they have provided (which seems like enough to satisfy bennetts request) he can use it as a prop towards his advantage.

He wants to use this to say "hawaii can't verify he was born there when I made an official request".

get ready for the spin.

LD19 Resident
LD19 Resident

The reason Bennett hasn't turned over what Hawaiian officials want to meet his BS request is because Bennett knows that the president's birth certificate is real.

Bennett knows about Article IV Section I of the U.S. Constitution, which awards full faith and credit to all public records and judicial proceedings.

Bennett also knows about Article VI Section II of the U.S. Constitution, the Supremacy Clause, which makes the U.S. Constitution and all federal laws the supreme law of the land.

Bennett knows about the 14th Amendment, the Amendment which says "All persons born or naturalized in the United States, and subject to the jurisdiction thereof, are citizens of the United States."

Bennett is just doing this to garner votes for his potential run for the Governor's Office and to help the MCSO shurf remain politically relevant and it won't work.

The Old Fool will quickly fade into obscurity and Bennett will lose the moderate and independent vote, quickly derailing his campaign for governor.

Bye-Bye Ken. Don't let the door hit you on the ass on the way out.  

independent_az
independent_az

Who put the birther bee in Bennett's bonnet? Does Sheriff Joke have some dirt on Kenny? Why else would a Secretary of State pursue this ridiculous and long-debunked conspiracy nonsense? Hawaiian officials have repeatedly, consistently, and PUBLICLY confirmed that Obama was in fact born there.

Scott
Scott

and, oh, by the way, Bennett is Co-Chair of the Romney campaign in Arizona.  Shallow, shallow, shallow man

gregg r
gregg r

what a bonehead. This asshole also wants to run for governor after leatherface finishes her term. Man our poor state and the idiots that run for office. not surprised is right he's a sellout.

Coz
Coz

The only thing Bennett is reaching out to is the birther's.

Harry
Harry

NO- it's about HONESTY & NOT FRAUD- Obama is
the only president to spend millions to hide his past (criminal) history- he
even surrendered his LAW license to avoid investigation- The only president to
have multiple SSN's & the only president to have an alias name- "BARRY
SOETORO" (Obama) you are a FRAUD who has deceived America- The culprits are the NEWS-MEDIA who refuse to print anything about Obama's hidden past- and are complicit in covering up his past crimes- like proven FORGED birth certificate  & selective service card- 

Montana
Montana

Please put up the video then, oh that's right there is none.  LOSER!

dp
dp

 Looks like under 4 or 5 above, Hawaii should release the information.  Anyone wonder why they make it this hard for a law enforcement agency to get access to a birth certificate?

jtmunkus
jtmunkus

 Hawai'i has responded timely and with candor; Bennett has no authority to arbitrarily start checking birth certificates with the intent of keeping President Obama off the ballot.

The entire correspondence -showing Hawai'i responding and requesting more information from Bennett to prove that he's allowed the information under Hawai'i law, so they can facilitate his request - was published on TPM Muckraker's website.

Ken Bennett was sitting at his desk functioning as Mitt Romney's co-chair, and as Russell Pearce's tea party lapdog when he contacted Hawai'i, after singling out President Obama as the only candidate for whom he goes on a witch hunt.

Obama is black, he's American and he's president.  Being elected by the people in a fair and free election is not a crime.  Trying to overthrow our duly elected president without due process and without facts, outside of Congress, is.

Amy Peeples
Amy Peeples

Ding ding ding!!! This is by far the best comment on this story..thank you for your contribution Conservative American.

Oma
Oma

ditto that

come_home
come_home

 Not just Republicans but Mormons like Bennett and Romney.

teknik1200
teknik1200

plus, by not making a legitimate request he can spin it around and say hawaii wouldn't provide it instead of telling the truth.

david saint
david saint

because he is Mitts guy here in AZ....which is why current officials that have anything to do with elections need to abstain from supporting a candidate...just look at what happened in 00 with Bushs FL person, former Sec of State katherine Harris.....

sveny
sveny

and the world is flat and the universe was created in seven days and the luminati control the world and elvis is in the building and and and and and...

Oma
Oma

Harry, Harry, Harry! Ludicrous I tell you, so beyond ludicrous. There's just no talking with you!  Pity the black heart that lies within you.  

James
James

Thanks for blowing the lid off this vast conspiracy, Harry. You are a good American. It is mind-boggling to think how Obama's minions have managed to carry out the sort of fraud and deception you describe. And how they also obtained the full cooperation of the ENTIRE news media in covering up their dastardly deeds. This is the biggest scandal EVER. This isn't just Watergate-sized. This isn't just Iran/Contra-sized. This isn't even 'Iraq has WMD's'-sized. This is huge. HUGE.

I would expect an Administration that did all that to produce more internal scandals than any other Administration in history. What? What's that you say? No scandals? Well, that's probably just the news media cooperating again. It isn't as if they're in business to make money by getting the BIG SCOOP.

Harry, I didn't even vote for Obama the first time. I've never voted for a Democrat in my life. But it's starting to feel like I have no choice. I mean, seriously, Mitt Romney? 

When your candidate is a moron, you can't run to conspiracy theories to explain why people prefer the other guy. It makes you look like - well, a moron. (Not that you're a moron.)

On a side note, Ken Bennett has sure dug himself a hole. If Hawaii had just confirmed the birth certificate, there would be no story. But now....what's he going to do?

  

independent_az
independent_az

Glenn Beck on birther conspiracy: "Dumbest thing I've ever heard"
That says a lot considering all the dumb things Beck has said.

david saint
david saint

I think he did Tom...what you are asserting Harry is a cover up by so many people its impossible. Further, why is it that some GOP members who have seen the BC up close all contend he IS a citizen and this is nonsense?! Is it also coincidental that this only came about in 2006, when a run at President was looking likely? You morons act is if hes the Manchurian Candidate, yet Bush did far worse things than he has! Including lying about WMD, Pat Tillmans murder, oil tripled in price (and what industry does the Bush family make their money again?!), and the economy nearly collapsed...sorry, but many like myself warned about Bush and yet morons lined up to elect his dumb ass instead of Kerry because of the word flip flop (which in a twist of irony, describes Romney to a T) and an ad on tv.....sorry, but you people are nothing more than pathetic morons to me, who have no real understanding of the world around them...

Rodkoehler
Rodkoehler

What an easy job Bennett has, when he takes it upon himself to carry the cross of the birthers.  Drink coffee, discuss with his buddies "how to get the country back", pretend that he "hopes" the president was born in Hawaii, and pick up a paycheck.  I'd love to smack this guy and watch his little beady eyes spin.

gregg r
gregg r

 huh. sounds like someone been stealing moonshine for grandpa

Tom
Tom

Did you just escape from the mental ward ??

teknik1200
teknik1200

can't forget about the "swift boaters" lying on record about kerry's military service.

lies and more lies, when you speak the truth you become a "liberal" who can't be trusted.

sorry bro, you've be deceived.

Eric Nelson745
Eric Nelson745

Yeah... he needs to take his meds.  As for the AZ Secretary of State,
BE WARNED that if Obama's name fails to get on the ballot, legal action
will likely be taken to invalidate the Arizona vote.  YOU are acting like a
jerk!

spirit76
spirit76

Please be aware, only liberals speak the truth.

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