Joe Arpaio's "Birther" Investigation Slammed by Ex-Sheriff's Posse Member

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We've previously mentioned some of the stranger aspects of Maricopa County Sheriff Joe Arpaio's "birther" investigation -- parts not related to Arpaio and company thinking President Obama's from Africa -- including tidbits of information that would lead a reasonable person to believe the "investigation" isn't really about exposing some massive fraud perpetrated by the president.

Now, there's a book co-authored by one of Arpaio's "special deputies"/ex-Sheriff's Posse member who appears to be saying just that.

Veteran readers of the Feathered Bastard may remember Stephen Lemons' columns on Michelle Dallacroce, one of the co-founders of the Phoenix-based Mothers Against Illegal Aliens group. She's the author of this book, along with another co-founder of Mothers Against Illegal Aliens, Michael Bruning.

Whether the stuff in the book is true is completely unknown, but since Dallacroce says the money from the sales are being donated to a nonprofit that helps people with spinal cord injuries, it makes me feel like a lot less of an asshole for spending $9.99 on this thing.

The point of the book, according to the authors, is to look into "the players and hints at the dangers poised by the Cold Case Posse and its public relation frenzy it has been perpetrating upon the public."

The book's not really written in any logical format. Sure, there are chapters, but there's no real narrative to the whole thing.

At one point, the authors even claim it might seem like they're trying to discredit the efforts of the investigation, but say they're really not. Every other page in the book seems to go directly against that.

That said, here's part of how the authors describe what the book's about:

It is a representation of how the rule of law can be turned on its head and how the general public can be lured by repetition and dramatic affects into becoming less than respectful of the law by being duped into believing someone else's perception of the truth and the facts, evidence that is begging for an affirmative end. This story points out the players and hints at the dangers poised by the Cold Case Posse and its public relation frenzy it has been perpetrating upon the public.


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Common Sense
Common Sense

I just don't understand why people take issue with this investigation. I am not a 'birther". I am just someone who thinks the truth really matters in everything. Especially on something this serious! When one is the president of the United States one of your most important assets is your integrity and credibility. If I was president the split second someone questioned either I would squash it immediately with irrefutable evidence. If you are on here complaining about this I have just a few questions for you. 1. Don't you seriously feel it is important to know if he really is the president or not? Especially if he is running to be a president for another four years?2. If someone questioned your birth certificate how long would it take you to produce yours and wouldn't you let anyone that had doubts examine it to put it to rest immediately so that we could move forward together with everyone's confidence? How long would this take you (5 minutes,15 minutes, 30 minutes or 3 + years)? I think it is safe to say we can all agree it wouldn't take long at all!3. If you are complaining that this is just a waste of time. Why aren't you you taking the opposite opinion/attitude and saying "Obama enough is enough!!! Get off your butt and show the damn document? 4. If the sheriff is right, wouldn't you agree this would be one of the biggest crimes in US history? 5. Last question. If he gets elected again and we find in 2016 or 2017 that the document and or Obama was a fraud wouldn't, you look back on what you have posted here and say to yourself "what a fool I was"? Why didn't I just demand with allot of the others for him to show the damn document? Please share with me your thoughts. Believe me I wish he would have just proved it the first time it was questioned.

Guest
Guest

In light of WND's announcement that Sheriff Joe is set to release more Obama 'shockers' this coming July 17th, 2012, I joined with Sheriff Arpaio is his work to uncover the truth by donating to the Cold Case Posse expenses, and made a donation of $0.01.  The magnitude of my donation reflects the importance of the task being undertaken by the Cold case Posse. I recommend that everyone make a donation in an amount commiserate your assessment of the importance of this undertaking. http://www.mcsoccp.org/joomla/index.php/donations-to-ccp Since WND is also holding out for donations, I would gladly have donated $0.01 to them as well, but they have a minimum donation of $5. Ah, well. http://superstore.wnd.com/specialty-items/HELP-FUND-INDEPENDENT-INVESTIGATIONS-OF-OBAMAS-ELIGIBILITY  

Scottsdalebubbe
Scottsdalebubbe

Sounds like the speeches a crazy a*s perennial presidential candidate of the 80's and 90's, Lyndon LaRouche used to make.  You kept waiting for the point of the words, charts, and hints of something important which never emerged.  All the while he looked like he had been hypnotized prior to his speech.

rhody
rhody

 You're a liar.

rhody
rhody

Well add yourself to the list of idiots.

Naeok Sadzewicz
Naeok Sadzewicz

in the verification letter sent to Bennett:"Additionally, I verify that the information in the copy of the Certificate of Live Birth forMr. Obama that you attached with your request matches the original record in our files".
Sheriff Joe won't like this, it wipes out his "forgery" claim. Send towels to Joe!

Cryandhowl
Cryandhowl

Now this is some funny  sh#t! I don't think the left has enough chrome-plated knee pads to go around with all of you falling down in front of Obama!

wldbil
wldbil

Sheriff Joe is a true patriot.....

maya
maya

 birthers eating their own....  sweet!!  :-)

maya
maya

birthers eating their own....  sweet!!   :-)

Mike
Mike

On July 15th last year Obama made a Freudian slip- he gave away his real date of birth-
he said, "I'll be turning 50 in a week". Which  makes his date of birth around July 21-22.  I don't know anyone of sound mind who has ever made a 3 week mistake on their birthday- have you?
Obama never came back and said he slipped up, either. On April 27th last year (watch on youtube) Obama's lawyers (not Obama) released that scanned birth certificate- Obama said "other's had examined it and it was real, but notice that Obama never said that scanned BC was the real McCoy. Just try and find a quote from Obama where he says he is a US citizen- surprised?  My research says that , he has said he is an American and a citizen of the world, but no quote that he is a US Natural Born Citizen.

Mike
Mike

No birther has ever been arrested for lying to the court (over 100 cases), submitting false documents, libel, slander, perjury -no,  not one slap.  However, Martha Stewart tells a tiny fib to a Govt investigator and she goes to prison!  Obama is a punching bag for birthers simply because he can do nothing to shut them up. Why hasn't the Govt arrested just one birther? Well,  if they did,  they would have the right to defend themselves in court and to obtain depositions of Hawaii officials and issue a  subpoena  for the real half-typed/half-written Hawaii birth record (that we have yet to see) and the original SS-5 Social Secuirty application form for the CT SS number that Obama has been using.  This  legal discovery can never be allowed to happen, as the lies would then be obvious to even the cowed news media.

Ddesertdawg
Ddesertdawg

Any sherriff who has a posse would be the first giant red flag, why does everyone continue to give Joe any press? Loser.

TaxpayingVoter
TaxpayingVoter

Then they should be Democrats....lol  At least the Democrats of that time.

I'm aware that today's Democrats aren't pushing the same issues as they were historically, BTW....lol

Jack Hughes
Jack Hughes

 The country they "want back" is the Confederate States of America.

Jack Hughes
Jack Hughes

"Birtherism" isn't much of a conspiracy theory as it is just part of a right-wing propaganda campaign aimed at racist rubes.

Kpehjer94
Kpehjer94

what I want to know is where Arizona finds these wing nuts that have appointed themselves ruler of Arizona THE 54TH. state......Better yet where are they. finding. these ASSHOLES. THAT BLINDLY FOLLOW. THEM.........

wtf
wtf

in other words...i just fucking spent 3 minutes reading a bunch of bull shit about a stupid fucking book who no one will ever buy or believe just like the guy working for Arpaio that wrote the birther book.... sorry NT i'm your fan but c'mon! have some sense on what you report on......

Gusto
Gusto

President Obama's mother was a US citizen. Ergo he could have been born on Mars and he would still be considered an American citizen by birth same as was John McCain being born outside the US. Mitt Romney's father was born in Mexico but it didn't prohibit him from running for president.

What part of that don't the birthers get??

JackofNoTrade
JackofNoTrade

Ms. Dallcroce is clearly pissed that Sheriff Joe did not give her authority over the investigation and media coverage.  Once a media whore, always a media whore.  She did not like being told what to do--yeah I read the incomprehensible ramblings--someone sent it to me.  It appears that she was in favor of everything UNTIL they did not want to live stream the press conference.  It was an incoherent mess of a "book", hell, it would be an incoherent mess of a blog.

TaxpayingVoter
TaxpayingVoter

I'm not sure it's technically "name-calling" when it's actually true.

TaxpayingVoter
TaxpayingVoter

The ones who control the cost of tin foil, is my guess.

TaxpayingVoter
TaxpayingVoter

You know what?  I want my country AND my party back.  I want the looneybird extremists to give me back my GOP and take themselves back into the hills they came from.

I want my country to go back to center where it belongs.  I want us all working together again for each other and not for the fucking corporate puppetmasters pulling all of our legislators' strings and dancing to the tune of how many dollars they can funnel out of the economy and into the deeper pockets.

You want YOUR country back?  Fuck you.  Give me MINE back and go find your own.

TaxpayingVoter
TaxpayingVoter

As a graphic designer who works with all types of digital files, I can safely say that your heroes "investigating" this whole thing don't know the first thing about what they're claiming.

TaxpayingVoter
TaxpayingVoter

Are we supposed to ignore the hooey they've spewed in all the time up until now?

narizona
narizona

Hey joey quit blowing smoke to confuse these poor lost sheep that follow you,by the way have someone change your depends for you .

Comeau69
Comeau69

 Doin it because the people want their country back... their freedom back and are tired of being told lies by an international organisation (the NWO) that is obsessed with power/control for self protection and gains.  

Comeau69
Comeau69

 Call it what you want... the proof don't lie... the document on the whitehouse website is a forged one.  Who made it is what Arpaio is investigating,  He's not trying to find where Obama was born.  He's only trying to prove the document as being an accurate electronic copy of the birth certificate but the evidence is showing anomalies that can only be appear from forgery.  So who made it? Who put it there? Did they know about these anomalies and are they turning a blind eye to the accusation of forgery altogheter?   Let's not be influenced and stick to the document and the evidence on hand please.  Someone in washington needs investigating.

Americal69
Americal69

yea cause he also really really believes there are 57 states,  dont make me start with the W quotes

Americal69
Americal69

so you believe they hid it but a lawsuit would scare them into releasing your fantasy document? derpty doo

Randy
Randy

You do know you're an idiot.  If you don't like how our constitution works maybe you should move to another country.

NeedACleverName
NeedACleverName

You are seriously mistaken. Several Birther attorneys have been sanctioned. A plaintiff was court-martialed. (Terry Lakin) Actually, make that two court-martialed plaintiffs-I think Easterling was also court-martialed although he fared better than Lakin.

Ask Terry Lakin how your theory of discovery turned out.

ExpertShot
ExpertShot

 I think everyone misinterpreted the mis-spelling: It's "pussy" not "posse."  Arpaio is a PUSSY!

mikefrombisbee
mikefrombisbee

 Most of them are illegal refugees from other star systems, exiled by their own kind for being too fuckin' idiotic to stomach.

cmm912
cmm912

Dear Gusto,
McCain was born in the Panama Canal on a military base.  Any military base, ANYWHERE in the world, is considered American soil, hence, McCain is an American citizen.  Not because of his mother.

CarlOrcas
CarlOrcas

Henry J. Kaiser.....from the grave. No doubt about it.

teknik1200
teknik1200

the "NWO" is not an "international organization".

it's run by the illuminati, you should do some more research on that.

Hail Eris, All hail discordia!

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bob_from_oregon
bob_from_oregon

Thank God I live in Oregon. Do you have any idea how the rest of the country are laughing at people like you and Arpaio?

poedgie
poedgie

Without getting to the gist of your comment your poor grammar clued me in that you are a birther.

david saint
david saint

Sorry, but when arpaio went and charged all the criminal judges in the county with RICO and provided absolutely ZERO evidence to support it, he lost ALL credibility...if he even had any left at that point. If you really want something to be concerned about, be concerned about that. 

teknik1200
teknik1200

no it isn't, you only say that because that's what your heroes told you.

Johnny Skee Mask
Johnny Skee Mask

 Okay dunderhead, it's evidence time. Where's the "proof"? I like to see real solid evidence. And not the doctored up forgeries you "birther" idiots produced. Let's see it.

LD19 Resident
LD19 Resident

Apparently you aren't familiar with Article IV Section I of the U.S. Constitution, as well as Article VI Section II of the U.S. Constitution.

Article IV Section I awards full faith and credit to all public-records and court proceedings in each state, including Hawaii.

Article VI Section II makes federal law and the U.S. Constitution the supreme law of the land. This section is known as the Supremacy Clause and makes the Old Fool's birther investigation totally null and void on its face.

CarlOrcas
CarlOrcas

For the sake of discussion let's say you're right and the image on the White House website is a forgery: What crime has ben committed by posting a forged birth certificate? And, specifically, what crime was committed in Arizona that Arpaio has the authority to investigate?

maya
maya

think again -- they're ELECTED... i.e., you can blame the wacko voters for voting in the wackos....  ;-)

rhody
rhody

 Simpleton.

Comeau69
Comeau69

 not the posting that is the crime... it's the forgey itself...  who did it and why.?  The Sheriff already explained it.  If you would of listened to Mr. Arpaio you would have had your answer.   The sheriff only answers to his citizen voters of his state.  He is not an employee of the Feds nor do he answers to them.   The document was made public for everyone including the voters of Arizona.   And they have pointed the suspected document to their own lawman.  Don't forget that Sherif Arpaio wanted to validate the document at first but is still unable to do it.  

Gusto
Gusto

I defy you to go to any courthouse anywhere in the United States and ask for... demand... another living person's birth certificate. I can GUARANTEE YOU that you won't be given a copy or anything resembling a birth certificate.

How Sheriff Joe and these other 'investigators' decide and then demand someone's birth certificate is just beyond me.

If you think it's perfectly OK to go to the courthouse where YOU were born and for me to demand a certified copy of your birth certificate - fine - just post your name, date of birth, and place of birth and your parent's names. If you don't feel comfortable with that then maybe you just might GET IT. Birth certificates are NOT public property. And furthermore the state of NY for example won't send out a certified birth certificate to a child of a deceased person who was born in NY without a court order. Go fight that fight and see how you fare.

CarlOrcas
CarlOrcas

Making up a birth certificate (or virtually any document) is not a crime...per se.

"Why" may be an interesting question but it is not a crime that can be investigated absent some criminal intent or conduct.

I've listened to Arpaio for almost 20 years and what he said in this case is nonsense. You don't conduct investigations because some citizens group asks you to. You do it because there is probable cause to belive a crime, over which you have jurisdiction, was committed. And then you turn it over the certified peace officers to conduct a real, lawful investigation. And they do it in a timely manner and then turn it over to prosecutors to determine if charges are appropriate.

In this case none of that has happened and none of it will happen because there hasn't been an investigation. No certified police officers are involved. No Arizona crime has been identified. There is nothing to take to a prosecutor.And they're still rope a doping the public with the "Oh, we'll have more in a month or so" silliness. That's not how real criminal investigations are conducted.

All the "Cold Case Posse" did was regurgitate long debunked material from WorldNetDaily.

Finally, the notion that Arpaio entered into this to "validate" the birth certificate is laughable. Arpaio got involved to generate publicity for Arpaio. End of story.

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