Nebraska Woman Lets Jan Brewer Know Proposed Abortion Bill Actually Affects People

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Not quite, according to someone who's actually had to deal with one "pro-life" law.
Sometimes it's hard for people to realize the potential effects of all the anti-abortion bills that are always being tossed around at the Capitol until after they're passed into law.

That's why a Nebraska woman has written a letter to Governor Jan Brewer, imploring her to veto House Bill 2036 if it lands on her desk -- a bill that would ban abortions after 20 weeks of pregnancy, among other regulations.

Nebraska already has a similar law on the books, and it's not exactly a "pro-life" law, if you ask Danielle Deaver.

Deaver's letter was delivered to Brewer earlier in the week, as she explained how Nebraska's law complicated her pregnancy.

Read what Deaver had to say to Brewer below:

Monday, April 2, 2012
 
The Honorable Janice K. Brewer
Arizona Governor
Executive Tower
1700 West Washington Street
Phoenix, AZ 85007
 
Dear Governor Brewer,
 
My state was the first of a handful of states to enact a so-called "20 week abortion ban." I am from Grand Island, Nebraska, where I live with my husband Robb and our beautiful son.
 
Because lawmakers in my home state of Nebraska passed this sweeping abortion ban similar to legislation poised to pass the Arizona state Legislature, my family's personal loss a year and a half ago became a nightmare.  You cannot imagine what we went through.
 
I implore you to read my story.
 
In August 2010, I was overjoyed to become pregnant.  My husband and I still wanted nothing more than to give my son a brother or sister.  For weeks, my pregnancy was proceeding normally.  But then 22 weeks into my pregnancy, it went terribly wrong.
 
On Saturday, November 27, my water broke and there was not enough amniotic fluid for my daughter to survive.  This was heartbreaking.  If there was anything we could have done to save her, we would have.
 
What happened next should have remained a very private decision between me and my family and my doctors.  As the result of a law similar to a bill considered by this state's Legislature, a decision that should have remained mine and my husband's at a very difficult time was decided for us - and it was decided by politicians we'd never met.
 
My husband and I agonized over the decision about what was best for our family.  After much careful thought, prayer, research and medical advice, my husband and I made the difficult decision that we wanted to induce labor and deliver my daughter as soon as possible.
 
We wanted to honor our daughter.  We wanted to hold her and say goodbye.  We wanted to preserve my health.  
 
We should have been able to handle this with dignity with our doctor.  The very best medical care should have been available to me.  But as I said, Nebraska law interfered.
 
Even though I wasn't looking for an abortion, my doctor and his legal counsel felt their hands were tied.  "If I could help you, I would," he said, looking me in my tear filled eyes.  "But I would go to jail."
 
The law, as you know, is black and white.  Unfortunately, life just isn't.  Though an infection was growing inside me, under the law I wasn't sick enough to warrant the induction my husband and I wanted.
 
Some have suggested my husband and I should have traveled to another state, but we didn't want to leave my doctor's care.  And we didn't want to drive home with my daughter in a box.
 
So we waited.  For days.
 
While we waited, we tried to pray, but we didn't know what to pray for.  So we spent our days and nights telling our daughter how much we loved her, how sorry we were, and how we wished we could do something different.
 
Then on Wednesday, December 8, my daughter was born.  My husband and I held Elizabeth as she gasped for air, and mere minutes later she was gone.
 
There are no words for how awful the 10 days were from the moment my water broke to the day my daughter died.  There are no words for the heart break that cut deeper every time she moved inside of me for those 10 days.
 
There are no words for anger I felt when I learned after Elizabeth was born that my infection could have been analyzed, had my doctor been able to get to it sooner.  With more information about what caused the problem, we might be able to have a subsequent healthy pregnancy and birth.  But ten days later, the infection was just too severe.
 
Women and doctors are faced with difficult and complicated pregnancies every day.  But the political groups and politicians behind House Bill 2036 paint with a broad brush.  Even when they concede to health exceptions in the law, women facing a range of pregnancy complications are prevented from necessary medical care.  It happened to me.  When asked about my circumstances, the author of Nebraska's law said it worked as intended.
 
This is not about politics, it's about leaving the practice of medicine up to doctors and most importantly, it's about trusting women to make the best decisions for themselves and their families.  It's what Arizona women deserve.
 
That my pregnancy ended, that choice was made by God.  How to handle the end of my pregnancy, that should have been private.  
 
Please right the wrong that Nebraska did to me and stop House Bill 2036.  I want my daughter's life - and the tragic circumstances surrounding her death - to stand for something.
 
 
Thank you,

Danielle Deaver

Deaver's been telling this story for more than two years now, including an appearance on ABC News in 2010.

The bill -- which has already caused some controversy this session -- has been passed by the Senate, and would be transferred to the governor if the House agrees to the amended version.


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Evelyne Shuster, PhD
Evelyne Shuster, PhD

SEEING
IS UNBELIEVING:

Ultrasound Mandate, Abortion and the War on
Women

Evelyne Shuster, PhD*

 

Eager
to join the ongoing “war on women” and seize the opportunity to roll back
women’s reproductive rights, Arizona Republican Governor, Jan Brewer, signed
into law “The Women’s Health and Safety Act” which, despite its name, is not in
the interests of women, nor is it for their health and safety.  The new law bans abortions after 18
weeks of pregnancy (20 weeks from the last menstruation) and imposes a number
of undignified and humiliating requirements likely to deter most Arizona women
who do not want a child from seeking an abortion, and to distress and shame the
remaining few who are going through with it. Adding to an already onerous regimen
of restrictions on women’s reproductive rights, other states have enacted
similar “abortions” laws, hostile to women, for example, forcing women seeking
abortion to endure an obstetric ultrasound and listen to fetal heartbeat while
watching the fetus on a screen. Critics have derided these laws as “state
sanctioned rape,” asking “doctors to violate women’s right to
self-determination and to commit sex crimes.”  Supporters of these laws insist that “the goal is not to
punish and shame women but rather “to empower them with information” they need
to make “a more informed pregnancy decision.”

Traditionally,
anti- abortionists have opposed routine fetal screening, like ultrasound,
because they believe it may reveal ambiguous fetal findings, difficult to interpret,
which may cause women who want a child to abort unnecessarily. This same group
now contends that ultrasound may lessen the number of abortions because it may
reveal fetal information that can make women who do not want a child to reconsider their decisions
and change their minds.  Can both
propositions be true? I will argue that they can’t. And this is why.

The
argument is premised on two implausible assumptions. The first assumption is
that all women who want a child carry defective
fetuses, and therefore the less
amount of fetal information disclosed, the greater
the chance that  women will carry
their fetuses to term, not knowing of their possibly defective nature. To put
it another way, too much information undermines a woman’s confidence in her
pregnancy and increase the number of abortions. The second assumption is that
all women who seek abortion carry healthy
fetuses, and therefore the greater
the amount of fetal information disclosed, the less likely they will abort, possibly because of guilt for
terminating a “healthy” pregnancy. 
And thus, more rather than less fetal information will reduce the
number of abortions. Of course, not all women who seek abortion carry healthy
fetuses and not all women who want a child carry defective fetuses.

Most
importantly, to believe that women, like children, can be easily manipulated
and swayed to change their minds, only on a basis of ultrasound, is offensive
and unjustified. It is offensive because it assumes that abortion decisions are
made lightly and thus could be dismissed as irresponsible. It is unjustified
because it is hardly the case that decisions for or against abortion rest only on ultrasound images. For example,
a recent study in British Columbia illustrates that viewing ultrasound images
of their fetuses did not make women seeking abortion change their minds. And
when ultrasound screening did affect women’s pregnancy decisions, the result
was unexpected: looking at ultrasound images before an abortion was reassuring
rather than disturbing or guilt- producing. As one woman put it “It [the
embryo] just looked like a little egg, and I couldn’t see arms or legs or a
face.  It was actually the picture
of the ultrasound that made me feel it was OK [to abort].” Seeing is
unbelieving.  Abortion laws that
are premised on the proposition that real information is being provided by
ultrasounds are injudicious and misguided.  The size of the fetus on an ultrasound screen is not
determined by the actual size of the fetus or embryo, but by the size of the
screen itself. Looks can be deceitful.

The
bottom line is that women do not lose their rights when they become pregnant.
To impose procedures women do not want disregard 40 years of medical practice
and legislation that recognize the right of patients –men and women- to refuse
any intervention regardless of the consequences. It is ethically (and legally)
untenable, at any time, to force women to submit to procedures they do not want
or to carry a pregnancy to term against their best judgments.  Information about a pregnancy should be
made available only if women want it.

Evelyne Shuster, PhD

Philosopher-Ethicist

Evelyn1@seas.upenn.edu

215-823-4206

 

 

 

39 Tempe
39 Tempe

If you insist they be born,make sure they have a good life.  Health care, food that is nutritional, and LIFE PLANNING DECISIONS when they reach that age.  If you are pro-life, fully support them.  ALL of their life.

Zedzedbeta5
Zedzedbeta5

A lot of people are complaining that it's the "Religious" who are at fault and yet the author of the letter states the following.

"That my pregnancy ended, that choice was made by God.  How to handle the end of my pregnancy, that should have been private.  "  

 In your comments why not be respecting of all and deal with the situation like the author has done.  Honorably and respectfully.  

How does anything change when everyone is against everyone?

Coz
Coz

Wow, sad and tragic letter pointing out what holy than thou politicians do to women without remorse.

Amazing.

Coz
Coz

The letter writer lost me at Honorable...

davelog
davelog

Clearly someone's is, otherwise they wouldn't be doing it. Question is, what's their endgame?

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Kahlan Amnell
Kahlan Amnell

I still stand by if you want one, get one, and if you don't, then don't.

Just don't take it away from everyone because YOU personally disagree with it. Yeesh.

Tommy Collins
Tommy Collins

If it the bill goes to her desk Mrs. Brewer will need someone to read this letter to her and explain it. Then someone will have to explain to her the correlation between the bill and incidents as cited in this letter.

Unfortunately Mrs. Brewer only surrounds herself with Republicans.

guest
guest

it sounds like nature took its course without this women's help. imagine that.

Gusto
Gusto

And the amazing thing is that Rick Santorum and his  wife were faced with the very same decision - at approx. 30 weeks. And they marched into the hospital and got their late term abortion to save his wife.

Young women truly do not know or understand what it was like before 1974. Women died from systemic infections because abortion was against the law. Women developed raging infections from situations like Santorum's wife that ended up with them either being sterile or having to have emergency hysterectomies. You rarely hear of those today and there's a reason why.

My heart goes out to this woman and to all the young women who proclaim loudly right to life OR are complacent about the ramifications of these laws because they have no idea what it was like before.

billr
billr

Her letter will do zero good.  She fails to realize (though I absolutely don't blame her for trying!!) that these people have convinced themselves that the fetus is more important than the life of the mother.  In all cases.  EVEN in the case of a dead fetus.  If that isn't irrational ideology, I don't know what is!

shadeaux14
shadeaux14

Ms Deaver is right, this issue is not about politics, it's about one party being hijacked by religious extremists who feel they are on a "Devine Mission."

When they can find time in between advocating for more guns, quicker death penalties, and more wars.

Wasillawitch
Wasillawitch

I mean really, how many pregnancies are aborted after 20 weeks?  And why?  Have any of these right to life politicians reviewed and considered this information. 

I want to know these answers.  I want to know what problem it is that they're attempting to solve, if any.

Coz
Coz

you are an asshole

AnotherMesaVoter
AnotherMesaVoter

Looks like you skipped a couple of paragraphs:

There are no words for how awful the 10 days were from the moment my water broke to the day my daughter died. There are no words for the heart break that cut deeper every time she moved inside of me for those 10 days. There are no words for anger I felt when I learned after Elizabeth was born that my infection could have been analyzed, had my doctor been able to get to it sooner. With more information about what caused the problem, we might be able to have a subsequent healthy pregnancy and birth. But ten days later, the infection was just too severe.

The Real David saint
The Real David saint

me and a friend were having a laugh over that the other day..the same party this is "pro life" also is the most staunch gun supporters..how does that make any sense?? lol 

interloper
interloper

 from the CDC's latest available Abortion Surveillance summary:

http://www.cdc.gov/mmwr/previe...

"A total of 825,564 abortions..."

"In 2008, most (62.8%) abortions were performed at ≤8 weeks' gestation,
and 91.4% were performed at ≤13 weeks' gestation. Few abortions (7.3%)
were performed at 14--20 weeks' gestation, and even fewer (1.3%) were
performed at ≥21 weeks' gestation. During 1999--2008, the
percentage of abortions performed at ≤13 weeks' gestation remained
stable, whereas abortions performed at ≥16 weeks' gestation decreased
13%--17%. Moreover, among the abortions performed at ≤13 weeks'
gestation, the distribution shifted toward earlier gestational ages,
with the percentage of abortions performed at ≤6 weeks' gestation
increasing 53%."

If this law were implemented nationwide it would have stopped ~10K abortions in 2008. My conclusion is that right to life politicians are taking advantage of public ignorance and laziness when it comes to researching the facts, in their effort to make whatever inroads they can in their battle against individual/family self determination with respect to medical decisions in the area of reproduction and child bearing.

Gusto
Gusto

"With more information about what caused the problem, we might be able to have a subsequent healthy pregnancy and birth. But ten days later, the infection was just too severe. "

It sounds like she is now unable to have any children from that sentence in her letter. Which proves also the point I was trying to make: delaying the birth of doomed fetuses can be deadly or next to deadly. It has to be absolutely clear that we are talking about a fetus who will be unviable and riddled with the horror of infection that can and often will spread to the mother. That is what the letter writer is saying. Santorum and his wife aborted a baby in the same way... only at 30 weeks which proves that these laws don't apply to the ones who make them and who spout crap that they don't put their own wives through.

teknik1200
teknik1200

you mean the one that only applies to business and not personal freedom?

DMolloy
DMolloy

That is exactly what they are doing. They also have no qualms about spreading lies about how the procedures are performed as well. They love to scream that babies are torn limb from limb to remove them from their mother's wombs...bla bla bla. And it's all because the the lazy mother doesn't want to be burdened by a baby or she's worried about her weight or some other preconceived notion. It's nonsense but for people who believe everything they hear and are to incurious to investigate the truth, it's easy to understand why they get so upset over the propaganda.

AnotherMesaVoter
AnotherMesaVoter

There's a lot more I'd like to say on this subject but I think I'm just going to console myself with the fact that this is another reason the 2012 election is going to change Arizona.

USA Today
The GOP's war on women appears to be hurting them with women voters. According to a new USA Today/Gallup poll, 41 percent of women identify as Democrats, versus 24 percent who identify as Republicans.

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