Murder of Illegal Immigrants by Camo-Clad Group Still a Mystery; Similar Killings Have Happened Before

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So far, this is what we know the suspects looked like. One also knew the Spanish word for "stop."
Details are still pretty light in the case of two illegal immigrants shot and killed Sunday night near Eloy, after they were "ambushed" by an unknown number of people in camouflage getup.

Pima County Sheriff's Deputy Dawn Barkman told New Times on Monday that there may have been as many as 30 people in the truck when it was fired upon, and most of the people in the truck booked it after the shots were fired.

There really aren't too many types of people who wear camouflage and shoot people trying to cross the border into the United States, but armchair investigators are mostly pointing to either a "rip crew" or some Nazi-type border vigilantes.

There's no indication that either of those profiles fits the description of the shooters, as the witnesses didn't catch much.

Aside from the previous descriptions simply involving people with rifles wearing camouflage, Barkman tells New Times witnesses relayed to police that the camo-clad people ordered the truck to "alto" -- Spanish for "stop."

The pronunciation of the word apparently didn't tip off the witnesses as to the speaker's nationality, and Barkman says the witnesses couldn't tell the nationality of the people by sight either, as it was too dark out.

Barkman also noted that there have been two other incidents "similar in nature" to the attack earlier this week, both in 2007.

In one of those incidents, three illegal immigrants were shot to death, and no arrests were made.

In the other -- which happened less than two months later -- two illegal immigrants were killed, although police caught two of the three shooters.

A motive wasn't determined for the first incident, but the second shooting was discovered to have been done by one of the "rip crews."

The sheriff's department also released the identity of one of the two men killed -- 39-year-old Gerardo Perez-Ruiz, a Mexican national from San José del Rincón, Mexico.

The other man is believed to be Guatemalan, Barkman says, and the sheriff's department is working with the country's consulate to notify his next of kin.


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Allbeanerssuckoffdeadpeeps
Allbeanerssuckoffdeadpeeps

The illegal immigrants got what they deserved and the vigilante heroes didn't get caught......it doesn't get much better than this, a win/win! All you maggots supporting illegals deserve deportation or worse! Sic Semper Tyrannus!

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Jglenn
Jglenn

hhhmm... very troubling 4 sure, pity & typically the repug & star did not allow comments; gooooo new times (again) : }
... so im thinkin, ... which no reporter has discussed, i remember there was a nasty multiple murder of a number of aliens not too far from where this event occurred, i think it was off or near redrock road.
& im thinkin about good ole louie ... so what if we have a cell of local racist rogue sheriffs deputies robbing these folks and this was just another rippoff gone bad?  This kind of scenario would splain why this has gone on for a decade or more w/ no arrests  : {    

Rvhobo1954
Rvhobo1954

How many folks know that Timothy McVeigh went to his death on death row never identifying his co-conspirators in his crime? How many know he had ties to the white supremacist group who plotted the unsuccessfull bombing attempt on a Texas federal court house? How many know that one member of that group has moved to Arizona and is now doing right wing hate radio in Phoenix? If anyone thinks Arizona has not become a magnet for these ne'r to do well's they are truly blind, they have infiltrated media, government in this state! Its no accident the Ku Klux Klan tried to run political candidates in some southern states albiet unsuccessfully due to they did not hide their white supremacist ties, in Arizona they try to hide them, but their attitudes, actions expose them if one looks!

Rvhobo1954
Rvhobo1954

My hope is federal law enforcement is on this case, since Arizona law enforcement seems incapable or unwilling to catch these perpetrators, might explain why Arpaio lets 400 sex crimes go unpunished, uninvestigated since the victims are folks he and his ilk don't like, he can claim any defense of his failure he wishes but when US Justice department comes into a state and is investigating one of the highest profile state law enforcement officials its a indication something is not working in that state, one saw in Alabama, Mississippi during the 1960's when Ku Klux Klan riddled the states government, law enforcement agencies!

Rvhobo1954
Rvhobo1954

Much like Florida Arizona falls into a category were white supremacist's riddle the state, not only do these states attract us seniors who like the sunshine, mild winters but high Hispanic communities attract the white supremacists who see them as invaders, and give them victims for their nefarious activities! The minute men have not disappeared merely fizzled a bit, their leadership has been disgraced, embarrassed, with the Forde/Bush murdering a 9 year old child who begged for her life after seeing her father murdered, Bush the triggerman coldy blew the childs head to pieces, ironically the term grizzly mom is bantered around on the right wing in relation to right wing women but a wounded Hispanic mother shot and wounded this yellow coward and he fled in terror, ironically his on line name gunny, fake claim of war hero, marine were exposed as a lie, I still wonder why did he flee to Meadview, Arizona? But then one can speculate is a nest of white supremacists there? Timothy McVeigh & his pal who planned and plotted the Oklahoma City bombing had a bunker in Mohave county! Coincidence not likely, if one is ever bored read the racist, xenophobic rhetoric of many commentators on the Kingman Daily Miner newspaper site, folks tend congregate where they have friends and like minded attitudes!

Rvhobo1954
Rvhobo1954

Russell Pearce has a history of shooting Hispanics when he was a law enforcement officer allegedly when he was attacked but one can speculate did he initiate the attack based on his xenophobic obsession with Hispanics, illegal immigration which cost him his senate president seat, has made him a outcast in the general Mormon higher up leadership, he is his own worst enemy, he still has suspicion on him of the Fiesta Bowl scandal, all the canaries in that story have not sung and got their plea bargains yet, he might be like ole Arpaio just a federal inmate waiting to be issued his uniform! This story if unsolved will remain with some who feel its nothing but a Mexican cartel "RIP crew" and others like myself will view it suspiciously as possibly a white supremacist death sqaud operating and hiding their activites behind the RIP crew theory!

Triple-6 Gun Mane
Triple-6 Gun Mane

"Rip crews" typically go after the drug bundles, cache of weapons and their drug money. In this incident, they didn't care for it. Instead, they were more interested in killing the illegal border crossers. Which to me, reeks of rogue Nazi-style border vigilantism. These people may have ties and connections to pearce, arpaio and other fringed elements.

Rvhobo1954
Rvhobo1954

Is it a coincidence that this happened during the controversy of Florida shooting, black panthers & neo-nazi's both got active in that case, then the Oklahoma triple murder by someone with a grudge against blacks, murdering three blacks! Guess since law enforcement caught only a few of these perpetrators one can speculate, guess its about as easy as tossing a coin and guessing heads of tails!

DNichols
DNichols

As the Arizona "Cesspool" Churns.

shadeaux14
shadeaux14

 They haven't merely "infiltrated" government in this state, they ARE the government in this state and since they have been continually elected and re-elected for the 30 yrs I have lived here, one can only assume that they reflect the sick values of the population.

DNichols
DNichols

The Pinal County Sheriff is already under investigation for Immigrant Abuse  issues.

It is my understanding that Goverenor Brewer has set up a One Million Dollar Tax Fund to pay Vigilantees to go after Immigrants.

When the State Funds Police, the Police have to be completely Vetted, and pass all kinds of test/requirements, then they are fully trained, supervised, and they must strictly follow rules, and all Laws.

When you hire known Drunken Vigilantees with High Powered long range Sniper Rifles, Night Vision Scopes, and Camo garb , you may get the Killings you have paid for?

Arizona can not be allowed to Investigate their Corrupt Selves in this Double Murder!

Pinal County Sheriffs have a good idea who committed these Murders , and I believe the Motive to be "Hate".

To: Justice, even in Corruption Riddled Arizona?

Triple-6 Gun Mane
Triple-6 Gun Mane

The neo-Nazis that were supposed to organized a neighborhood patrols, but they never lived up to their agenda. They were a no show. So in hindsight, it was all hype on their end.

It was rumored that one of the so called "white supremacist" in the Oklahoma serial shootings, was hence--a  Cherokee Native. But anyone familiar with Cherokees, they once practiced slavery and had owned black slaves before adopting them into their tribe as "Freemen".

Rvhobo1954
Rvhobo1954

If the media in Arizona and the law enforcement in Arizona is not doing anything one can rest assured the southern poverty law center has their eyes on these stories, as well as the US Justice department, crooked law enforcement officers tend to get away with their crimes for decades, but as in the Sheriff Babeu case one can find themselves in deep trouble in short order, these strange, mysterious murder's, all these mysterious bodies found in desert assumed to be dead migrants, illegal aliens due to dehydration one might wonder how easy these vigilantes could hold a captured illegal in the desert and merely let nature do its course denying them water and leaving them dead to be found later and assumed to be a death by natural causes! One cannot deny some sick human beings exist in our society, some seek law enforcement jobs to further that sickness, sadist's like pedophiles seek helpless victims, only difference is their victims often are unsympathetic and often ignored!

Rvhobo1954
Rvhobo1954

My guess some lone Neo-Nazi thought it was a good idea but could not muster his fellows to really patrol for a fellow of mixed  heritage whom under the Neo-Nazi stated platform is they plan on deportation of all non-white persons from USA, when I first read they were coming to Zimmermans defense I found it strange it would be like a Ku Klux Klansman rallying a group for defense of a Catholic or Jew which they hate about as equally as blacks! Here in Arizona we have become a magnet for every fringe hate white supremacist organization in America, a professor was bombed by two Aryan nation members from Michigan, one of the two minute men on death row for the tragic murder of the 9 year old Hispanic girl & her dad south of Tucson was a avowed Aryan Nations member has two pending murders in his home state Washington, one a fellow white supremacist and one a sleeping homeless Hispanic man, one can speculate what drew him to Arizona but best guess is this crazy dream of their race war!

DNichols
DNichols

I hope the Feds are already at the scene.

Babeu is said to have Deleted Files of potential evidence in his own investigation.

What would he do to protect persons of interest that he may already know, or believe to be involved?

Arizona is vastly Corrupt, and Burning from Racism.

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