Paul Babeu's Mexican Ex-Boyfriend Continues to Insist That Babeu Camp Threatened Him With Deportation if He Outed Babeu as Gay

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Pinal County Sheriff Paul Babeu

​Pinal County Sheriff Paul Babeu's Mexican ex-lover "adamantly denies" so-called criminal allegations the embattled sheriff has fired back at him, the former boyfriend's attorney said today.

Specifically, Babeu claims that Jose Orozco stole his identity and hacked into the sheriff's web accounts -- accounts that Babeu had asked his longtime flame to maintain.

Indeed, A.D. Horan, an attorney representing Orozco, said his client was a campaign volunteer and an "authorized administrator who ... created and maintained websites for Sheriff Babeu with his permission and upon his request."

Horan said Orozco had the "authority while working on the campaign to access those accounts."

Orozco complied with requests to turn over control of the websites, Horan said. Even Chris DeRose, Babeu's attorney and an adviser to the sheriff's congressional campaign in District 4, doesn't dispute that Orozco immediately gave up control of the websites and social-media accounts.

Babeu and DeRose started pressing a claim that Jose had criminally violated the sheriff's accounts -- even though the dispute had been resolved, according to both parties -- after New Times reported Orozco's allegations that Babeu and DeRose had threatened him with deportation if he outed Babeu as a homosexual who had a profile on the gay hook-up website adam4adam.com.  

Even though another of Orozco's attorneys, Melissa Weiss-Riner, stresses that DeRose also claimed that Orozco's visa had expired, which could make him vulnerable to removal from the country, Babeu has insisted since the revelations were made public that he is the victim, not his 34-year-old ex. 

In fact, Orozco and Weiss-Riner say questions about Orozco's visa and suggestions that Orozco could be deported came up because Orozco refused to sign a document promising that he'd never disclose details of their years-long relationship.

Sources provided New Times with screen shots of the website, paulbabeu.co (not .com, but .co), which was not even Babeu's active campaign site. It appears that this was one of various inactive web domain names linked to Babeu, and it was the site where Orozco purportedly "defamed" Babeu.

New Times also obtained screenshots that appear to be of a Twitter account that, again, doesn't look like an official Babeu account, in which Orozco reportedly posted "offensive" messages about Babeu.

A close look at the pages shows that perhaps Orozco was on the verge of talking about his soured relationship with Babeu, and in doing so, would have revealed that the sheriff is gay -- a fact that Babeu clearly did not want disclosed given his congressional run in a very conservative district rife with Tea Party Republicans.

After New Times published Jose's allegations, Babeu came out as gay in a press conference last Saturday, at which he first spun that he was victimized by Orozco, not the other way around.

The following pages and text messages show why Babeu and DeRose may have been so eager to silence Orozco.

From the now-inactive Twitter account -- @paubabeaz:

Personal problems with Paul Babeu, up at 5:18 a.m. on September 4
Details on paulbabeu.co soon, up at 5:43 a.m. on September 4

About six hours later, Orozco received the following text message from Babeu:

"You can never have business after this and you will harm my and many others in the process...including yourself & your family." (11 a.m.) And, two minutes later, Babeu wrote: "And you say you have loved me? Papi...this is no good."

By that evening, sources tell New Times, the first tweets were deleted, but this one appeared:

Ethical issues on paulbabeu.co, up at 8:36 p.m. on September 4.

That website, paulbabeu.co, mirrored features of an official website, with obvious exceptions:

On September 5 at 7:42 p.m., the website appears with a small box in its top, right-hand corner that reads: "Unethical Corner of Sheriff of the Year Paul Babeu."

Beneath that box are the headlines to three actual news stories:
"Critics questioning Pinal Sheriff used public funds to attend awards conference."
"Ranking Pinal officer never cited in speeding."
"Audit finds problems with evidence handling at Pinal County Sheriff's Office."

At the bottom, a sentence reads: "Sheriff Paul Babeu on adam4adam records show".

Adam4Adam.jpg
Paul Babeu's alleged profile on adam4adam.com
And Babeu was on adam4adam.com.

Also on the website is a photo of Pinal County officials at an awards ceremony honoring Babeu with this sentence super-imposed: "Pinal Sheriff used public funds to attend awards conference."

DeRose sent a "cease and desist" letter to Orozco on September 6, ordering him to remove the "offensive" postings at once.

It seems that the reference to adam4adam may have been most "offensive" to the sheriff's camp.

The same day the "cease and desist" letter was sent to Orozco, he and Babeu had the following text-message exchange:

Orozco, 7:37 a.m.: The true is already out
Babeu, 7: 46 a.m.: You and Website (redacted) will be sued...you have crossed the line. Better get an attorney. Your brother will also be contacted.
Orozo, 7:57 a.m.: Don't threat me. Thats illegal. I'm just speaking true.

In his September 6 letter, DeRose claims that Orozco engaged in defamation -- but, from what we have seen, it appears that everything he posted was factual. Unflattering, but factual.

As Weiss-Riner noted in her September 30 response letter to DeRose: "Truth in an absolute defense to any of these claims."

Perhaps there are other bits of evidence that DeRose and Babeu possess that will support their allegations of identity theft or hacking. If there are, why haven't they come forward with them?

DeRose also wrote in his September 6 letter that Orozco engaged in "breach of contract" -- but, since when do campaign volunteers sign contracts? Again, they should produce the contract.

In a February 17 e-mail to New Times, DeRose wrote that "on September 6, 2011, Jose Orozco, a former volunteer for the Sheriff, hacked the campaign website, Twitter, and online financial transaction system. Mr. Orozco changed the passwords and content of these sites."

We have to ask, as Horan pointed out, if Orozco was managing the campaign websites, didn't he already have the passwords? How can he "hack" into accounts that he'd been managing?

In a text message on September 6 to Babeu, Orozco wrote: "Twitter account has the same old password."

And in another, earlier text message from Babeu to Orozco, Babeu thanks Orozco for updating something or other on the website.

DeRose continues in his e-mail to New Times that when all this came to his attention, he wrote Orozco a letter and pointed out which law he believed Babeu's ex-boyfriend had violated. Orozco "promptly complied, returning control of these items."

Investigations have been launched into Orozco's allegations against Babeu that, at the same time, will examine the sheriff's claims against Orozco.  

 


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Michael Wisper
Michael Wisper

Meanwhile, I hear, in honor of Babeu, they're re-naming the county "Penile"  and are going to promote gay tourism there.

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Gerry_C
Gerry_C

It strikes me as odd that Babeu selects an immigrant with at least questionable status as his lover for several years.  I would guess that he would not have to be a bottom feeder when selecting. 

One has to ask why?  What is the psychological reason for his selecting this guy? 

Does it have to do with the potential to deny such a relationship?  Would Babeu have denied this if if were not for the pictures, web sites, and text messages?

Is it a control freak issue?  Did Jose's immigration status give Babeu something to hold over his head and if so, why was this an issue?  Could he be needing this to rebel about the priest that allegedly molested Babeu when he was young?

 

Joseneedstogo
Joseneedstogo

What, the picture of him with  his shirt off was not enough for the Sleaze Times?  Really, this crap is getting so old. Monica keeps putting the stories out in hope that she will get it across that this poor scorned lover has been wronged  Lol Just another story about an  semi legal immigrant trying to use our own laws against us. Just wait, I am sure some of Jose's ex lovers will be popping up soon to attest to his character. Bet the Sleaze Times attempts to keep those stories quiet..Where in the world Monica, do you find the time to keep up these rampages going  between feedings.

Dahoss2x
Dahoss2x

The New Slimes will continue to "out" all conservative homosexuals, while never doing such a thing to gay or Bisexual liberals such as: Janet Nappy, Phil Gordon, Terry Goddard, etc...

Tommy Collins
Tommy Collins

 Interestingly, it strikes me that if the picture showed Babeu with a female and his hand inside her shirt, apparently holding her breast, the ladies of the world would be all over him for demeaning her. But, hey, he was the sheriff's bitch, so I guess it's ok. Seems odd.

One sheriff wags his carrot. Another sheriff shows his bitch.

Odd, I think. (Just my personal opinion)

LD19 Resident
LD19 Resident

Assuming that what Orozco is correct, and it appears that he is based on what evidence I have seen so far, the Bald Bunion needs to be removed from his position as Pinal County sheriff, he should lose his AZPOST certification, and he needs to be investigated by the DOJ for abuse of power.

I don't give a shit if the Bald Bunion is homosexual. That's his choice.

I wonder why the Bald Bunion is now playing the victim card? If he really was a victim of the felony offenses committed by Orozco, as he claims, Orozco would've already been arrested, tried, etc.

I suspect that the Bald Bunion is using Orozco's immigration status to retaliate against him and intimidate him. I also believe that the state statute of limitations has expired, so the Bald Bunion may not even be able to level claims against Orozco.  

BabeuisOK
BabeuisOK

Boring. Men and women fight worse over the kids, the house, community property, and the like.

Who cares about these tawdry details. Oh yes, the liberals care immensely because even thought this stuff is pure PG-13 to them, they cannot stand to have anyone be conservative.

Where is the third gun?? Anyone who asks that very pertinent question is thoroughly flogged. Now that is an interesting story.

ernie lopez
ernie lopez

all this talk about baboo ethics, but after looking at his picture on can honestly say, "WHAT A UGLY MUTHER FUCKER" HE IS.  To be honest his pictur is just plain gross.

Thisisgettingold
Thisisgettingold

A vindictive, computer hacking ex....  Hmmmmm, I personally think Babeu is correct. He will never have business here and it will end up hurting his family. No work, no money sent down to them in Mexcio. Afterall, he was just speaking the truth "unflattering" as it is but "factual"

Apportier
Apportier

Posting links to a few articles from the Associated Press, the Arizona Daily Star, and ABC15 isn't slander and it isn't identity theft, and Babeu knows it.  He needs to stop lying.

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Excellent work by Monica Alonzo. TPM has also uncovered some possibly illegal payments Babeu made to Orozco. There seem to be many more details to uncover. Babeu is clearly making the most serious allegations by claiming Jose committed felony identity theft. That begs the question of why Babeu knowingly sat on this info without pursuing charges for weeks or months. It wasn't until Babeu was 'outed' that he suddenly revealed that he claims Jose is a felon. Why was he protecting and covering for Jose previously? Isn't that illegal complicity?

Gerry_C
Gerry_C

 I had to think back to this comment when I read about Babeu picking up a 17 year old male student from the boarding school he administered about a decade ago.  Definitely targeting the indefensible.

Tommy Collins
Tommy Collins

 I wonder of some of Paul's jilted ex-lovers will be popping up now, unless they have been served with cease and desist orders of some sort or another. I wonder if the then 18 year old student who graduated from the boys school where Paul was headmaster (an interesting title for him) and actually lived in eternal love with Paul, is going to come out of the woods and reveal that their love started long before graduation. Just wondering. Stranger things have happened. It appears there is much more to Paul Babeu than he wants anyone to know.

Will Hadley
Will Hadley

You and Indetruth are the same person, for one. And, two, you are dumber than a board if you actually believe this. What you likely are is part of Babeu's camp and trying to sugar coat what this sleeze did. And what an outrageous sleeze the sheriff is! Disgusing!  

CptZeep
CptZeep

The point is that a conservative cocksucker, turned out to actually be a conservative cocksucker.

IndeTruth
IndeTruth

The difference is --  pay attention because it is a BIG difference -- the vast majority of liberals could not care less whether a person is gay, straight or otherwise... could not care less whoever they might choose to love.  That is judgmental territory reserved strictly for conservatives who try to pretend that homosexuality is just a bad choice.  

Thisisgettingold
Thisisgettingold

Let's see, the difference is men go around with their shirts off and women do not. You see women with their hands on mens stomachs all of the time and vise versa. I do not see where Babeu's hand is actually on his chest.

IndeTruth
IndeTruth

The only evidence I see is Babeu trying to stop a scorned lover from splattering negativity on Babeu's website and twitter account.  Rather petty of Orozco, if you ask me.  And utterly STUPID too considering all the unwanted attention he has created for himself as well as Babeu.  I seriously doubt Jose thought this through completely and it appears Babeu was trying to warn him this would happen.  

Looks like Babeu will have issues to answer for re: hiring/employing/using volunteer services of Jose who only holds a tourist visa and is therefore ineligible for such activity.  I STILL haven't seen any evidence of deportation threats.  The first article was effective in 'outing' Babeu as gay but the twist is not deportation threats but using a Mexican national as a volunteer.

For the record, I'm no Babeu apologist.... Not even close.... I can't stand his border based bigotry and Arpaio-like grandstanding.

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"Oh yes, the liberals care immensely because even thought this stuff is pure PG-13 to them, they cannot stand to have anyone be conservative."
LOL, I don't think most people consider it "conservative" to rail against 'wetbacks' while secretly giving them blowjobs. Or to take pics of your erect penis and nude body so you can cruise for other men on homosexual cruising sites. If that's "conservative", God help us all.

narizona
narizona

How can he be hacking if he was maintaining those web site's

Thisisgettingold
Thisisgettingold

Oh Willy Wonka, you are the idiot  for believing everything the Sleaze Times writes. LOL . Bet you have some sort of secret that you don't want out. All of the hypocritical people on here make me howl. I have to wonder how many married men and women on here who have had affairs are actually crucifying the Sheriff.. At least he was unmarried and had no one to answer to

Tommy Collins
Tommy Collins

 Simply my opinion. No need to fret over it.

Thisisgettingold
Thisisgettingold

Umm he has already admitted to doing it. Do you not recall the cease letter from his attorney to Jose where as the next day, Jose Queerdo turned everything over. It appears that Jose is the jilted lover and of course he is going to "stand by his story" I can see it now as he is trying to make all of this go away and Monica is probing ( not literally as she is not his type) him not to as it will make her appear dumber tha she already does.

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