Clergy Child-Abuse Experts to Talk FLDS in Scottsdale This Afternoon

• Ok the information is really useful for me although its not what I'm looking for i think they for helping child I hope after the conference they should come to fair decision.

• I know a lot about flds, and there is no way to compare flds and average society this way in an article this short. That is what people commenting seem to be doing, and it's ridiculous. Flds practices in many of its members' homes are extreme compared to most homes where children are living.

• I sure would like to see the people who have raised their kids without ever swatting their behinds. I would just love to see all these perfect people who have been able to raise their children by "just talking to them" and/or taking away priviledges. Parenting well is by far the hardest job in the world. One of the reasons is that children DO have minds of their own, and they are fully capable of doing wrong things that have nothing to do with the way they were raised. You can take a kid who was given the best of everything and they can turn out to be criminals.  Ted Bundy himself told a reporter that he had great parents and that the things he chose to do had nothing to do with the way he was raised. I have gone through quite a bit with my own two kids, and NOBODY is going to tell me a didn't do a good job, because I know I did, and still do. Nobody has loved and been more generous and understanding with their kids than me. Sitting here looking at this article, what I see beign done is comparing extreme treatment of children within strict groups to the society as a whole- that is a bogus and dishonest thing to do.

• are you an experienced parent? I would want to hear your "credentials" as a parent, how many kids you have, how old they are, etc.   Lots of "professionals" who think they know better than the "average" parent are not even parents themselves yet. When they become a parent, their tune almost always changes- by quite a bit.

•    In 31 nations, child corporal punishment is prohibited by law (with more in process). In fact, the US was the only UN member that did not ratify the Convention on the Rights of the Child. The US also has the highest incarceration rate in the world. The US states with the highest crime rates, poorest academic performance, highest obesity rates and health problems, poorest economic ranking, and largest public welfare burdens are also the ones with the highest rates of child corporal punishment. Of all the things prison inmates lacked in their upbringing, "spanking" certainly wasn't one of them. There is simply no evidence to suggest that child/adolescent/teenage-only "spanking" instills virtue.

• One reason Ms. Heimlich should be commended for her book is that her brother, a former elected official in Ohio, is reportedly involved with millionaire evangelist Bill Gothard's "Character Cities" front group: http://bit.ly/rpXdoM Gothard's cult-like Institute in Basic Life Principles (the Duggar family, etc.) has been the subject of allegations of extreme child abuse: http://www.rickross.com/groups/gothard.html Glad to see her charting a different course by helping to expose such fanatics. 

•     Research/recommended reading:   Spanking Can Make Children More Aggressive Later http://tulane.edu/news/releases/pr_03122010.cfm Spanking Kids Increases Risk of Sexual Problems http://www.unh.edu/news/cj_nr/2008/feb/lw28spanking.cfm Use of Spanking for 3-Year-Old Children and Associated Intimate Partner Aggression or Violence http://pediatrics.aappublications.org/cgi/content/abstract/126/3/415 Spanking Children Can Lower IQ http://www.unh.edu/news/cj_nr/2009/sept/lw25straus.cfm   Plain Talk About Spanking by Jordan Riak http://www.nospank.net/pt2010.pdf The Sexual Dangers of Spanking Children by Tom Johnson http://nospank.net/sdsc2.pdf "Spanking" can be intentional or unintentional sexual abuse http://www.nospank.net/101.htm

•   In light of Judge Adams video, We often hear from those who fight to uphold this practice for those under the age of 18 (even to the blaming of the social maladies of the day on a supposed "lack" of it), but we rarely, if ever, find advocates for the return of corporal punishment to the general adult community, college campuses, inmate population, or military. Why is that? Ask ten unyielding proponents of child/adolescent/teenage-only "spanking" about the "right" way to do it, and what would be abusive, indecent, or obscene, and you will get ten different answers. These proponents should consider making their own video-recording of the "right way" to do it. Visit Unlimited Justice or Parents and Teachers Against Violence in Education to learn more.

• Thats a very good idea but you know that will never happen. your thinking is 20 years ahead of these idiots.

•  Another good one from Shadeaux! LOL you crack me up man, keep up the good work. There is very few of us left my friend from the days that used to be.

•  Shouldn't her book be called breaking their free will and virginity at a young age instead?

• I'm assuming that Rachel Brock's attendance will be mandatory as a condition of her parole.

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