Joe Arpaio Receives Proposal For New MCSO Disciplinary Policies

• How bout "bloviating his boviate" as in bullsheet. Post bovine grass... boviate.

• Thank you. I have my moments. In days past I might have referred to the MCSO shurf as an elderly piece of dogma, but I try to stay away from such wit these days. It takes too much energy to think.

• Hope. Simply hoping that time will remove the cancer that is sickening the organization. I've talked with a few folks who I consider professional employees at MCSO and every election cycle they keep hoping this one will be the one that makes the difference. Many of them support other candidates and the MCSO Deputies Association actually endorsed Dan Saban in the 2008 election, as did most other LE agencies, county and state wide. Many believe very strongly that the job they are doing is making a difference, and they are doing their jobs by the book. That said, however, there are those who participated in the illegal sweeps in clear violation of constitutional law. I can only suppose those are the folks who were hoping to get in on some of the Alaska and Las Vegas extradition trips. I can't really answer. I had the fortune of working for a very professional agency that weeded out those who were not professionals, much as I see some of the Phoenix area police departments doing. Not so much MCSO, that I can tell. Until the festered pimple at the top is lanced the infection will still be there.

• bloviate, dammit...sorry.

• You too Eleanor. I guess what bothers me the most about this situation is that having the "Courage of One's Convictions" seems to be a lost quality in today's America. In 1994, I applied for a sworn position with the MCSO and was awaiting  a start date for the academy but, after seeing, even then, that Joe was an un-principled political whore, I chose a position with ADJC instead. I left that position in 1997 when it became clear that the dept was going to shit-can doing actual treatment and rehabilitation, in favor of the cheaper "Warehousing" which continues to this day. Guess I'm just old fashioned, but saying "I need the job" is an excuse, not a reason. People need to really think about what they are willing to do for money.

• Sorry Shadeaux14....I know you aren't Jason.  It's already been a long day....only a minimum of 12 more hours to go.  You have a good one.

• Jason, these people stay in their jobs because they need them.  That happens a lot in LE in Arizona.  Unfortunately even if they choose to stop their employment for people like this and then make a decision to speak out they understand they can still be targeted for retribution.  This is how it is in the Tempe Police Department too.  This I am very familiar with.  I'm not trying to answer for Tommy.  He will do it with much more eloquently than I but I can give you my perspective based on my experience. 

• Tommy, your comment about the effect Rpiehole has on the "Professional Employees" at the MCSO brings a question to mind. Why would any LEO who possesses even an ounce of character stay in the employ of an organization run by a bigoted, incompetent criminal like Joe?

• My suggestion for disciplining Rpiehole involves the use of tar, feathers and a rail.

• Boviate??? As usual you have said it all......well most of it anyway. 

• LOL, and he says it much more tactfully than I ever could!

• You bring up a good point, Jason. From afar it's really hard to have a feel for the degree of professionalism of PCSO. Just as it would be for MCSO. The Bald Bunion is far more professional in his demeanor, speech and character, and he has the charisma to fool people into believing what he is saying. I don't believe for the smallest moment of time that he was fooled by Puroll. That said, however, I think he saw the political mileage of the 'shooting' as being too good to pass up, thus he ordered DPS to process the scene, but not to handle the investigation. From what I recall having read the internal investigation was ONLY to substantiate use of deadly force, not whether the incident actually occurred. As far as I know there is still one duty shirt missing. The one Puroll was very likely wearing when he shot himself in the lower back. Puroll wasn't smart enough to keep his mouth shut and when he saw the opportunity to boviate once again he did so, without the Bald Bunion knowing what was going on. He also implied that he knew about death threats against the reporter and did nothing about them. Thus, he got his ass fired by BB. Which was to the advantage of BB. Then there is the cover-up of the misdeeds of the MCSO shurf. BB directed and participated to some degree in the investigation, making a recommendation that the Three Amigos; Hendershott, Black, and Fox, be terminated. He portrayed the Flaccid Fool of MCSO as being the hapless victim of lack of information and knowledge of what goes on in MCSO, the department for which he is paid to administer, as an elected official. In my opinion the only difference in The Flaccid Fool of MCSO (arpaio) and The Bald Bunion of PCSO (Babeu) is age. In both cases it would be nice to have the agency run by a chief administrator who has the ability to tell the truth, and isn't afraid to do so. It would also be nice to have a chief administrator with true law enforcement experience at the helm. In 2012 we need to offer the MCSO job to Mike Stauffer.

• "As long as the MCSO shurf is still the figurehead any attempt at professionalizing MCSO will be moot." Does that apply to the Bald Bunion of PCSO? After all, he believed Louie Puroll was shot at by a gang of weed-toting illegal immigrants in the Vekol Valley and immediately came out believing the MCSO shurf after the Bald Bunion's "findings of fact" report came out.  

• I agree 100%. Tommy is always spot-on in his analyses of the MCSO and the MCSO shurf.

• Well said.

• I wish MCSO wouldn't have wasted the taxpayer money on this. As long as the MCSO shurf is still the figurehead any attempt at professionalizing MCSO will be moot. The old man is a cancer. His disease starts and the top and it ebbs and flows down through the organization, keeping the honestly professional employees from being able to hold their heads high and being proud of where they work. It's not likely any professional disciplinary policy might be initiated. That would be fair and honest.

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