Jerice Hunter Told Other Children to Lie About Jhessye Shockley Disappearance; Kept 5-Year-Old in Closet Before Reporting Her Missing

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Jerice Hunter cleaned her apartment with bleach days before reporting her 5-year-old daughter missing.
Glendale police announced yesterday that they don't expect to find missing 5-year-old Jhessye Shockley alive, and now we know why: it appears her mother, Jerice Hunter, who was arrested yesterday on child abuse charges "directly related to the disappearance," beat the girl weeks before she was ever reported missing. She also kept her in a closet and told her other children to lie to police about the disappearance.

Hunter also cleaned her apartment with bleach a few days before reporting Shockley missing, which suggests she might have been trying to destroy evidence.

According to court records obtained by New Times, two of Jhessye's siblings, who are now in foster care, told their foster parents about some of the abuse Shockley received at the hands of her mother, who spent four years in a California prison for child abuse -- and scolded us last month for asking whether she hurt her daughter .

Jhessye's 13-year-old sister told her foster parents that several weeks before Shockley was reported missing, Hunter came home and found her watching TV with a boy from the neighborhood. The girl told her foster parents -- and later police -- that Hunter called Jhessye a "ho" and dragged her into a bedroom where the sister could hear Jhessye screaming and crying.

Following the apparent beating, Hunter kept Shockley in a closet. Her sister told police she had to bring the 5-year-old water when Hunter was out so she wouldn't become dehydrated. She would let the her out when Hunter was gone, but quickly put Jhessye back when Hunter got home to keep her from getting in trouble.

The sister also told investigators that she saw bruises and cuts on Shockley's face and body while she was kept in the closet, and that her eyes were black and only slightly open.

The 13-year-old also told police that Shockley's hair had been pulled out and that she didn't look alive. She describes her as looking like a "zombie" and that the closet she was kept in smelled like "dead people" and was like a "grave."

All of the alleged abuse happened weeks before Hunter called police on October 11. The last time anyone saw Jhessye alive was September 22, which was the last time records show her attending school. Her sisters say they never saw Jhessye the day her mother reported her missing, when Hunter told police the older siblings were watching the girl as she ran errands.

On October 9, Hunter bought a bottle of bleach at a Walgreens. She then cleaned the entire apartment and scrubbed her shoes that were in the closet with Jhessye with bleach, the sister told police.

Court records also show that Hunter was suspected of child abuse in April, and a report was filed. It's unclear whether Child Protective Services was alerted about the reported abuse.

Hunter has made sobbing attempts to declare her innocence since the day she reported her daughter missing more than two weeks after she was last seen alive. She's blamed everyone from the media to the Glendale Police Department for not locating her daughter. When we spoke to her, Hunter went ballistic when we suggested that she hurt her daughter.

"I really think they should take the focus off of me and quit asking people -- wasting time -- if I did something to my daughter," Hunter told us last month. "They should quit holding my babies hostage and trying to get them to say something [about what happened to Jahessye]. [Authorities are] telling me 'your kids aren't saying anything.' It's been 13 days. What do they expect my babies to say that they haven't already said? [CPS] don't wanna hear 'we love our mama, we wanna go home we want our mommy' -- they don't wanna hear that. They won't let me see them because they don't want them running into my arms. They don't wanna hear them scream 'mommy.'"

For now, Hunter's been booked into jail on child abuse charges. Other charges are expected.
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Jean_Harlow
Jean_Harlow

Why would you call a 5 year old a ho, the mom looks like the biggest ho of them all! If that beautiful child is dead, her spirit is in a far better place away from all that hell she went through in life. Her mom is gonna rot in hell for this! This upsets me as a mom myself of a little girl and never in my right mind would put my daughter through this.

FeistyFido
FeistyFido

If the Glendale PD gets some blood trace DNA from the closet and this child turns up at the landfill this bitches Thanksgiving turkey is cooked. And once again on a lighter note I ask: How drunk do you have to be to want to do the nasty with this freak and make a child?

Veronica Gordon
Veronica Gordon

I'm sorry but this HO of a crazy, lunatic mother needs to die. Can anyone tell me if the death penalty if available for her? And I don't care to see the state's people have to pay for her to have a cot and 3 hots for the next 15-20 years. i truly hope some inmate gets a broom or a weight and inflicts as much damage on this B***H! Stupid a** makes me want to get locked up with her. So sad.. :(

Lovingmotheralways
Lovingmotheralways

Makes me sick that this monster spent 4 yrs in jail FOR CHILD ABUSE and is allowed to raise children again,,,WOW!! if that isnt the most Sickening thing i ever heard,,,Please think logically here,, these siblings are not lying on their mother, They know what they seen and would never make up such a horrific story,, the baby sister they loved was tortured and possibly killed and now they are most likely afraid to go back to the monster that hurt her, so despite their mothers attempt to scare them into lying for her ,  they have spoken out to save each other from being hurt like Jhessye!!!! Jerice Is a monster and the system failed these children when they fed them to her...she should have never seen the children again  and now should never see the light of day ... So Sad and there needs to be "Justice for Jhessye and her siblings",,,

Mirjscott
Mirjscott

I wish my husband and I could take all her kids in.

FeistyFido
FeistyFido

Wonder what breeder Mommas father knows about this since he is continuing the family tradition of screamin about how The Man is trying to railroad his sweet, charming little girl. Ought to put the whole damn family in jail.

Mnm
Mnm

This is so sad:( people like her need to be tortured like the poor babies that she has hurt... this makes me sick and I hope she dies a slow painful death.

bigriggs
bigriggs

I can't imagine anybody is really shocked by this.

Shell_ab80
Shell_ab80

That picture of the so-caled mother is priceless

madeintexas
madeintexas

Grandma was pulling the race card from the beginning. She was the one on t.v. that said she was not getting coverage because she was black. That was ridiculous. I guarantee that the police knew all along what was going on and just needed the proof that the 13 year old provided.

Tommie_Collins
Tommie_Collins

I thought this was the one that said all whites were racist for not looking for her "baby"? mmmm... the race card failed to save her? There is still time... Work it honey.

restitutiontouscitizensfirst
restitutiontouscitizensfirst

TV 5 says that the grandmother, Shirley, had custody of the children after Jerice's prison she was never to get them back.  Even Oscar Tillman is speaking of how the system failed Jhessye.   He does not seem like a neutral as a Reverend but of course really he is a politician with a greater purpose.  The grandfather flagged down the TV cameras to insist that his daughter is innocent.  What if she IS innocent?  

shadeaux14
shadeaux14

Speaking from a mental health background

This bitch is about as EVIL as evil gets.

Lisacheree_35
Lisacheree_35

This is just heart breaking i am from NZ the other side of Australia & child abuse cases are everywhere this is so heart breaking that no one saw the red flags go up that some one wasnt there to protect this little one all i can say is CHILD ABUSE,CHILD KILLING,CHILD ABDUCTIONS NEEDS TO STOP & NOW! ENOUGH IS ENOUGH!!!!!!! IF WE DONT STAND UP FOR CHILDREN WE DONT STAND FOR MUCH!prayers Jhessye is found & justice done for her & for many other child abuse cases out there seriously there needs to be laws to protect the children!

Prayers for JS
Prayers for JS

 Thank you to NT for sharing these details. Other media outlets are really dancing around the details and recent info from Glendale P.D.  The reports of exactly what the sister said about what precipitated the defendant, Jerice Hunter to "discipline" Jhesseye in the first place (watching TV with a boy and ther words she used to scold the poor child). That and the use of bleach to clean the house and shoes of the defendant.... those are important facts and very disturbing indeed. 

 The strange behaviour demonstrated by Jerice Hunter over the last several weeks seems to make more sense now.

restitutiontouscitizensfirst
restitutiontouscitizensfirst

After more than a month in foster care kids can be lead to say almost anything.  If this is true, yes, horrible.  But hey, I was locked up, starved and beaten routinely as a kid, never knew what it was that I did to offend, and I am OK today.  Not condoning it by any means but abuse is very common and in families you would least suspect.

Meanchick
Meanchick

What makes my heart skip a beat is that little Jhessye is either dead or the momster sold/traded her. I won't be able to breathe correctly until I know where this angel is, even if she is dead.

Mulletine
Mulletine

I would probably do her if I was a negro.

PTCGAZ
PTCGAZ

it depends mostly if they can prove in the court of law she murdered her child in whatever criteria that can apply for the death penalty. I personally am against the death penalty, but that is a personal thing.

Meanchick
Meanchick

Why hasn't the sweet old granny been arrested too? She lived there didn't she?

Charles
Charles

I find it disgusting the way her dad's been blaming the Glendale police and prejudging this as a racist problem and that preacher also blaming the police.  At first I was going to go down and help to find little Jhessye but when I observed the way her mother was acting towards the media and any and everybody up close I changed my mind.  I felt from the start that she had something to do with the disappearance of her daughter  even if I had not known about her previous convictions.  People dont act that way Im sorry.  The Glendale police were trying to help in every way they could and also had to look at the family first.  Lets stop this racist thing and blame the police game.  Im an African American.  

Meanchick
Meanchick

I think JH's mother and father abused her and are now protecting the monster they created and keeping the checks coming in.

llalbert
llalbert

I read that they are hiring private attorneys from Los Angeles.  Where are they getting the money for that?

PTCGAZ
PTCGAZ

the grandma at least, because I kinda gotta wonder if the mom was abused by her!

Walter Concrete
Walter Concrete

I think you're having a great time with this situation, acting like you were abused and saying the kids are probably being coached to betray their loving mother.   It's funny how you're taking the side of the abuser when you say you were abused too.  You seem to fluctuate between ignorance and flatulence.   Are you trying to tag along and get your 15 minutes of fame by acting like an expert on child abuse?  

PTCGAZ
PTCGAZ

yes but because a few times people are wrongly accused doesn't mean that everyone that is accused of a crime is innocent and wrongly accused.

BTW you mention the priors, the first time I saw her on the news I DIDN'T know about her priors.

Also if you notice what I said in the post above, I believe that the grandma might have been abusive to the mother.. the cycle of abuse continued.... instead of being stopped.

PTCGAZ
PTCGAZ

yup. and from day 1 I thought she was guilty of something. As the details were emerging I got more and more sure that she was guilty of something.

Maybe she rot in prison where she can NEVER harm a child again. I am sorta wondering if she was abused as a child too, and that is why she is so abusive?

PTCGAZ
PTCGAZ

there are laws. Often times people ignore children's complaints because the parents can laugh it off and say they are lying, have a good imagination, etc.

eyeswideopen
eyeswideopen

I am so angry with your comment I can hardly speak, but I will.  Too say these chidlren were coached is B.S. and you know it.  If you were truly abused as a child, you would know how this works.  I don't think you were abused at all.  I was, so I can tell.

Jeff
Jeff

You mean kids who are in foster care for a month start to feel safe enough to tell about their ordeal and what really happened with that monster.  I assume that's what you meant to say.  Because what you actually said didn't even warrant a comment.

WhoSaidWhat
WhoSaidWhat

 Your theory is that if abuse was good enough for you that its good enough for other kids? I think it screwed you up more than you realize.

stef
stef

So what exactly is the purpose of your comment? You're implying the kids were made to lie by their foster parents, even though this monster has a LONG history of child abuse. Abuse may be very common in families that you least expect but this mother had a LONG history of abuse. This was not unexpected.

Cristinaschlundt
Cristinaschlundt

I am very sorry that you had to go through that restitutiontouscitizensfirst.That makes me very angry that people could do such a thing to their children.I don't understand why if you don't want your kids or if they stress parents out that much why the parents don't just give them up for adoption you know.

Rexie Reed
Rexie Reed

That's unfortunate that you were treated that way.  Speaking as someone who thankfully was never treated in such a horrific way, I can say that beating a child and locking them in a closet is beyond evil.  In particular I can't imagine a parent, the person who is supposed to love and protect you, doing something so awful.  I've read the information about her case from California, seen what Jerice was found guilty of, and I agree with the California judge who said she had no business being near children.  So I'm not convinced the children in foster care have been coached.  There's too many corroborating events here, past abuse, the child being pulled from school under suspicious circumstances for weeks,  other family members reporting abuse as recently as April.  Sorry, but I think this dismissive attitude is a large part of the problem with the CPS system.

Mulletine
Mulletine

I'm kidding. I would do her now. Call me!

Meanchick
Meanchick

I'm also African-American and I agree with you 100%. Two seconds in, I knew this woman was lying.

Restitutiontouscitizensfirst
Restitutiontouscitizensfirst

No acting - just have an alllergy to witch hunts and making news out of unproven allegations i.e. gossip.  What if she IS innocent?  How do people like her and Thomas Weaver and many others re-build their lives?  Occupy that thought for a minute.  All these years after the fact Monica Lewinsky cannot even go out to eat without facing jeering from surrounding tables yet Clinton can do anything and he is at least equally guilty - double standard?  Fair of us?  I am fighting for civility and rationality in a place where precious little of it exists.

I never said I am right and you are wrong.  I am just proposing alternate scenarios that are all too common and in this case I could easily be wrong.  But what if I am not?  The kind of trauma the alleged perp is going through has been known to cause cancer, heart attacks and many other serious and life threatening illnesses.  If she is guilty nobody cares.  But what if she is not guilty?

Then again, I realized that the grandfather may be insisting his daughter is innocent because his wife is guilty of turning the children over to the daughter and perhaps keeping his family together is his number one priority. 

restitutiontouscitizensfirst
restitutiontouscitizensfirst

Local news also did not know about the priors at first.  We paid good money quite a few years ago so that states could cross-reference and communicate about these type things.  Where did that money go?  AZ was shamed as a known haven for ex-cons so we paid.

Ronae
Ronae

iirc Her mother did abuse her, that's why she doesn't have custody of the kids.  I also believe the children.  Now that their in a safe environment they'll feel safe to tell the truth.  Shame on CPS for not protecting these babies.  Another case that could have been prevented.  The mother never should have had the chance to have her babies back after her trip to prison.  MOO.

Restitutiontouscitizensfirst
Restitutiontouscitizensfirst

It takes much less than 6 weeks to create false memories.  If this is a Franklin type scandal cover-up it would be easy to manipulate a child into false memories that would hold up in court.  Not saying that is the case here - just saying it is possible and we need to have our eyes wide open for this type thing.

restitutiontouscitizensfirst
restitutiontouscitizensfirst

I can introduce you to former wards of the state who will gladly tell you how they were enticed to say anything about their parents and are proud of themselves that they did not take advantage of an unfair opportunity even though they were children.

PTCGAZ
PTCGAZ

or they could get an abortion before the child is a child and save the child from feeling like they were abandoned.

Restitutiontouscitizensfirst
Restitutiontouscitizensfirst

Thank you.  I think it is what impels me to try to see who is real victim since my parents were reported but they were more persuasive than I was.  At that time there was not much - no CPS like today and of course proper questions were therefore never asked.  I do think that I should have been removed from the home because I think these experiences set one up for lifetime abuse and related illness of physical nature as well.

PTCGAZ
PTCGAZ

well, the biggest one for me is her suddenly being pulled from school. That isn't normal and should be a red flag that something happened BEFORE she was reported missing and not after. Like I have maintained since day one, the lady appears guilty. Her theatrics (and the Grandma's) are just a smoke screen to get sympathy and to distract the police.

Meanchick
Meanchick

How in the heck does the Clinton scandal have ANYTHING to do with child abuse?!!  You have struck a nerve! You are grasping at straws and grandstanding on a non-existent platform! There are enough people who already downplay child abuse and accept the abusers story as fact and not the kids! You were not abused! You were more likely the abuser. Three words: YOU NEED MEDICATION.

eyeswideopen
eyeswideopen

I think you're parents are innocent and you are a liar

PTCGAZ
PTCGAZ

I have an allergy to parents abusing their children, and to rich money bags jerks like a lot of them in AZ that refuse to pay their taxes so programs like CPS are raided of their funds. We are after all talking about children who are abused. I am sure that some stupid  CEO can do away with one of his cars, or homes or something to help aid abused children can't they?

Slach
Slach

Buffoon. Mindless buffoon.

PTCGAZ
PTCGAZ

probably it was wasted by people like sheriff joke who spend 300K on a bus he wasn't authorized to purchase. You get the drift?

Dick Tracy
Dick Tracy

You're full of it. They didn't have full details on her release, her priors came up on the news fast.

restitutiontouscitizensfirst
restitutiontouscitizensfirst

I have seen false memories "planted" in local school children by school staff.  The purpose?  To get the kids to perform better in school.  Anything can be used as loophole defense by skilled liar ooops I mean lawyer.  I've said it before, I'll say it again - reality is frighteningly malleable.

Most of us have been victims of crime at some point or another in our lives.  Most of us never had a prayer of getting restitution.  That is why we, the general public, are addicted to media legal cases.  We want SOMEBODY at least, to get some justice.   We need to believe that our system works correctly at least some of the time for somebody even if it did not work for us.  

I am just as concerned and upset about the little girl's disappearance as anybody else.  I think the mother does look very guilty.  But I have also been around long enough to see that things can take surprising turns and that things are rarely as simple as presented.  I am all for holding back on judgement until all the evidence is in.  I do not like to contribute to public lynchings, especially based on NO PROOF!   This could end up being a very complex case although it looks simple now.  At any rate, now that this individual has been released for the moment, is her black ass going to get protection like Casey Anthony has been getting?  

Meanchick
Meanchick

Excuse me, but I did a study on False Memory Syndrome and just because it exists, doesn't mean it exists in every case. Also FMS was only found in some ADULT survivors of child abuse, not children. And the false memories were "planted" by a professional (psychiatrist), not a foster parent or CPS.  I also believe that FMS is just another loophole defense to not charge and imprison adults guilty of abusing their now adult children so many years before. No state wants to change the statute of limitations and uses FMS as a convenient excuse. This happens way more than people want to admit or believe and if the SOL changed, there would be a long list of people headed to jail, including parents/relatives, clergy, teachers, coaches, politicians, judges, etc.

PTCGAZ
PTCGAZ

could it be that the kids are telling the truth, that the mother is a monster, and lying? Because the first interview I heard with her on the news, I though she was shady, lying and guilty of something.

As the details emerged it doesn't sound likely that the kid wandered away. BTW you make it sound like no child who raises a complaint about abuse should be heard. Of course their is that thing where even adults get suckered by other adults when abuse/incest is involved.

PTCGAZ
PTCGAZ

what cutbacks did Janet Napolitano have?

Restitutiontouscitizensfirst
Restitutiontouscitizensfirst

They can come here and give their own names if they wish.  Many are busy with their lives and have no time for reading something here.  Others choose to be politically active.  Apparently there is some sort of governor commission for CPS ward of state graduates?  Where young people get to give feedback on the programs and help make appropriate changes?  Or maybe not since budget cutbacks or since previous governor?

PTCGAZ
PTCGAZ

really sources. I won't give the name of the girl I knew that was abused because amongst many things she is dead, and it wouldn't be right to reveal too much about her without her consent now would it?

restitutiontouscitizensfirst
restitutiontouscitizensfirst

No because I LIVE the name that you give lipservice to.   Seen too much to make the slapstick sleazy pronouncements so common to this place and AZ generally it seems.  Of course the whole thing seems fishy but I merely plead for fairness and not judging by presenting alternate viewpoint since it seemed a lynch mob is forming here on these pages and your eyes may be wide open but your brain is too crippled to understand that and you just want to have an argument and piss on somebody  - something wrong with you.  Go ahead.  Take after her and threaten her just like Casey Anthony now has to live in safe house with security - and who is paying to protect her from people like you?  People like me.   You don't like it - change the laws, or hey, better yet, get your one track mind stuck in there with her and see how well you get along.

Meanchick
Meanchick

I got that vibe too. I couldn't find the point of the ramblings. Abused, yet a defender of abusers?

eyeswideopen
eyeswideopen

yet your first inclination here is to say the children are making it up.  You don't make any sense.  If you were truly abused you would side with the children.  YOu must be one of the crazy family members in disguise.  I know abused children, I was an abused child and YOU don't appear to be one. 

PTCGAZ
PTCGAZ

Meanchick, I don't know. Where I went to school they called everyday. (Mostly for their records, and for the tax dollars they would get from teh government) but at least they followed up.

Meanchick
Meanchick

Did the school call I wonder? My daughter had the chicken pox, I called the school and they still followed up on her absence, which was only 5 days.

psyclist
psyclist

you are AN idiot for ...

Restitutiontouscitizensfirst
Restitutiontouscitizensfirst

I AM that girl that was not believed.  Although honestly in those days a person such as myself never thought that there was help out there for us, or that we could tell someone and get relief so telling was not something that I did but when adults at school saw symptoms and had the government investigate - they totally blew it.  As an adult I tried to get counseling and ran into a type counselor that likes to guarantee their  personal income and create false memories or insist to the patient that certain symptoms prove that things were worse then what I remember - that  I blocked memories.  So the goal of the counselor was to keep me in a miserable situation every week or several times per week until I finally remembered and somehow remembering  everything was going to lead to healing.  If the counselor is correct  that it as much worse than what I remember (and that was bad enough) then my whole being is doing a survival thing and I think it is smartest to just leave it alone.  I tried for what seemed an interminably long while but those grueling sessions just never resulted in any kind of positivity for me and I came to the conclusion that false memories could be created in this manner.  In years subsequent to that I found that my false memory theory was held by others and that there were several well publicised lawsuits over this same issue, for example, when adult children tried to sue parents for abuse they only recently learned through retrieval of these "false" memories.  I have also personally witnessed false memories created in people and I am not alone in this.  Reality is frighteningly malleable.

As an adult I have seen children removed from the home when the parent was doing nothing wrong at all.  Willful children making trouble because they could and because they learn from other kids how to do it.  Children making false allegation of sexual misconduct that simply was untrue.  Have also experienced children protecting their sexual abuser but showing clear evidence of the abuse in their behaviors and turning to life of crime I think because of the abuse.  I have even come up against the Mormon church for protecting their abusers because I was forced to because the child came to me for help, specifically because I was not Mormon.  I think teachers have enough requirements on their plate already but sadly the classroom is often the only opportunity for abuse to be caught - so the boy that is losing his bowels in class is not necessarily demonstrating a psych problem - it can be from chronic constipation destroying the sphincter but there is also something else that can destroy the ability to contain the bowel and that boy's teacher missed it despite his having the problem too many times in her class.  Occasionally public school activities are for the purpose of finding abused children - for example, playing educational film to class about abuse is a time to watch children and their reactions to see if they are being abused.  One girl who was being raped by siblings started crying uncontrollably but the teachers were so glad for a gossip break during the playing of the film that they totally missed the opportunity to help and just because you saw a film telling you to tell - for most victims it still is not enough to get them to find a safe adult to tell.  And sadly I think that most adults are not "safe."  We also need coaching on how to handle these things sensitively and discreetly not expose their secret to eavesdroppers who most likely will prey on them only more even if only to make them a victim of delicious gossip which will result in them being shunned at a time when they most need a sense of normalcy somewhere in their life while internally reeling emotionally.

Then again, we have a witch in my neighborhood who likes to report people to CPS if they displease her in some manner.  Just a mean girl kind of thing.  So there is a single mom who was interrogated with her children by CPS who came to her home and caused permanent disruption with their inquisition if she was doing drugs.  She claims that this event permanently cost her parental authority with her own children.  That now her children doubt her all the time and are less inclined to obey her.  So in the interest of protecting young children from a potential drug using mom, the family unit has been permanently damaged too.  Is there some way that this interrogation could have been done more sensitively and less destructively?

PTCGAZ
PTCGAZ

they are all lying, they have lied from day one.

PTCGAZ
PTCGAZ

wow really you still continue to defend the family ? They are lying. I believe they have been lying from day one as I have stated many many times. Something felt off about them.

The family will circle their wagons.

BTW as an aside, the girl that wasn't believed? she died a year or so after she moved out and in with someone I knew. She couldn't take the pressures of life...

Suggest you think about that. People like you who don't take the accusations seriously and try and say how they are being coached are enablers.

YouLiedPeopleDied
YouLiedPeopleDied

Cram it, troll. You really think this is a big conspiracy to stick it to the child abuser unjustly? You're full of it.

FeistyFido
FeistyFido

There is backlash in the community. A lot of us are tired of listening to her worthless family shill for this woman.

Yomamaisugly
Yomamaisugly

You are a idiot for defending that woman

Sincitysippers
Sincitysippers

Ok..  so where is the child?  That in itself is abuse.  Not knowing where your small child is.. 

restitutiontouscitizensfirst
restitutiontouscitizensfirst

Agreed.  Also just because some kids are very present and capable verbally about their experience does not mean that other children are lying or not suffering just because they have no way to explain or are not good at communicating.  And in the case of boys, there is a whole macho thing going on even when very young and that also prevents them from telling. Lately there has been a rash of suicides from very young children who were not believed.  That is why "professionals" need better training and better oversight. We need to get this right.  Child abuse leads to lifetime problems.  This is known and proven.  But I also have difficulty believing that the family would support her and make this huge public stink if they knew she was guilty because the backlash against them in the community will be horrendous.

PTCGAZ
PTCGAZ

guess so, but then again, I have known someone that wasn't believed. her own mother didn't believe that dear old dad could possibly be slipping his you know what into her you know where.

restitutiontouscitizensfirst
restitutiontouscitizensfirst

oh please!  Google can be your friend.  False memories is a proven concept.  They have been to court many times.

PTCGAZ
PTCGAZ

please share yours that show that the children are being coached?

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